Fantastic for the street name change. I had just been looking for such. Janice On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Barbara Munson <[email protected]> wrote: > The New Orleans library has an Alphabetical Index of Changes in Street > Names from 1852 - 1938. I don't know if this will help with the question > about property in McDonough, but here's the link: > > http://nutrias.org/~nopl/facts/streetnames/namesa.htm<http://nutrias.org/%7Enopl/facts/streetnames/namesa.htm> > > > > Please support me in the N.O. Komen Oct. 23. > http://tinyurl.com/DonateToKomen > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to everyone who replied. I did not think this was "McDonoghville" (Gretna), but I guess it is on the border of Gretna and Algiers. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Street help please > Use Google and it will come up. I'm not familiar with New Orleans, having > been there only 3 times, but The Town of McDonough is there, within the > city. I bet there's an interesting story . > Its near a river? or a waterway - I didn't spend enough time to figure it > out. > SK > > > In a message dated 10/9/2010 9:27:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Looking for property in 1826/27 in the "town of McDonough, between > Montgomery, Gallatin and Washington Streets". > > Anyone know where this might be? > > Julie > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am looking to find the Declarations to Naturalize for both my Great-great AND great-great-great grandfathers. 1. Jacob Born Naturalization date May 30 1854 filed at 4th District Court, New Orleans, Orleans Parish LA Civil District Court Building Major's Nat. Book 1, page 16 (He has listed 1836 as his year of entering the US, with no port listed, and says he is from Hesse-Darmstadt.) 2. Henry Rice Naturalization Date Mar 28, 1853 filed at 4th District Court, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Civil District Court Building Minors Nat. Book 2, page 112 (He has listed 1846 as his year of entrance, no port listed, and only listed "Germany" as where he was from.) Can anyone tell me if this information is ONLINE? Or, have an address where I can write? OR have access to this information? Thanks so very much in advance, Kathy Cochran

Julie, As has been pointed out in other messages, the community of McDonogh (also known as McDonoghville) is/was on the west bank of the Mississippi River, near where Orleans and Jefferson parishes meet. The part of McDonogh that you are interested in is today in Jefferson Parish, in the incorporated city of Gretna. This area was at one time in Orleans Parish, but by the dates you are interested in, 1826-1827, it appears that it was already in Jefferson Parish. Some of the streets in that area have been renamed, so the location you are looking for would be hard to find on a modern map. Gallatin is now Isbell and Periander is now Burmaster. Montgomery apparently no longer exists and Washington does not extend as far as it once did, so it no longer intersects with Gallatin (Isbell) Street. To help you find where this location is today, I created a small website: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~neworleans/mcdonogh/mcdonogh_map_details.html Also, note the correct spelling of McDonogh. There is no “u.” After looking at the maps, if you have any questions, let us know. Norm --- On Sat, 10/9/10, Julie Campbell Hernandez <[email protected]> wrote: > Looking for property in 1826/27 in > the "town of McDonough, between Montgomery, Gallatin and > Washington Streets". > > Anyone know where this might be? > > Julie

The New Orleans library has an Alphabetical Index of Changes in Street Names from 1852 - 1938.  I don't know if this will help with the question about property in McDonough, but here's the link:    http://nutrias.org/~nopl/facts/streetnames/namesa.htm   Please support me in the N.O. Komen Oct. 23.  http://tinyurl.com/DonateToKomen    

Use Google and it will come up. I'm not familiar with New Orleans, having been there only 3 times, but The Town of McDonough is there, within the city. I bet there's an interesting story . Its near a river? or a waterway - I didn't spend enough time to figure it out. SK In a message dated 10/9/2010 9:27:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Looking for property in 1826/27 in the "town of McDonough, between Montgomery, Gallatin and Washington Streets". Anyone know where this might be? Julie

The streets have been chopped up and the names may have changed. The Pontchartrain Expressway/Miss River Bridge/Hwy 90 runs thru that area as well as many newer subdivisions etc. But you might want to check out this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonogh,_Louisiana On Oct 9, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Julie Campbell Hernandez wrote: > Looking for property in 1826/27 in the "town of McDonough, between > Montgomery, Gallatin and Washington Streets". > > Anyone know where this might be? > > Julie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message Peggy Rooney [email protected]

mcdonoughville is at the border of Jefferson and Orleans at the Mississippi --- On Sat, 10/9/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Street help please To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 9, 2010, 10:17 PM Use Google and it will come up. I'm not familiar  with New Orleans, having been there only 3 times, but The Town of  McDonough  is there,  within the city. I bet there's an interesting  story . Its near a river? or a waterway - I didn't spend  enough time to figure it out. SK In a message dated 10/9/2010 9:27:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  [email protected] writes: Looking  for property in 1826/27 in the "town of McDonough, between Montgomery,  Gallatin and Washington Streets". Anyone know where this might  be? Julie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for property in 1826/27 in the "town of McDonough, between Montgomery, Gallatin and Washington Streets". Anyone know where this might be? Julie

Somehow - I wound up with a printed report called "This and That Genealogy Tips on German Records" - I think it came thru Ancestry.com, but I am not sure. It says: Germans arrived in America during 3 broadly drawn periods: 1683-1820 This emigration was largely caused by religious persecution following from the changes wrought by the Thirty Years War, and by economic hardship. Many were Protestants from the Palatinate area of Germany. 1820-1871 Economic hardships, including those caused by unemployment, crop failures, and starvation, were the primary cause of emigration during this period, in combination with wars and military service. Most of these emigrants came from Alsace-Lorraine, Baden, Hessen, Rhineland, and Wurttemburg. 1871-1914 Emigration became more affordable during this period, as well as much more common. All areas of Germany contributed, including Prussia. Hope this helps. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helen Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Betty, Where were you able to find the information about your ancestor arriving on the ship, Charles from Le Havre? Did you find that on-line? I am wondering why so many came via France from Germany? My great grandfather was said to have been born in Berlin, Prussia in 1805.....so assume that Prussia had dominion over Germany at the time. I too would be interested in learning what influenced them to migrate at this time. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "B Ware" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA My great grandmother arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship: Charles, from Havre, on July 29,1840. Another family that had the same last name (Hassinger) arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship: F. Depain, from Havre, on December 8,1845. Maybe the Germans who came to New Orleans around 1805 did not want to live under the influence of the French. Some parts of Germany suffered greatly from the French Predatory Wars. The French Revolution was from 1793 - 1805. During that time, the French invaded and ruled over a section of Germany, and many of the towns were being destroyed, and many of the people were displaced or left. " Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time." Betty Ca. by way of New Orleans, La. --- On Sat, 10/2/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 11:01 AM My German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came through the Port of New Orleans. Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Helen Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Jan and all, have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. ehmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 emetery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in bout 1835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical oncert. He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at oirees". I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from ermany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that e most likely came through New York as they could not find him on what ecords they had. Does anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked from? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time. Any incite appreciated. Helen Lehmann Smith aco, TX -------------------------------------------------- rom: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> ent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM o: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Let me add to what Cate has said. My Baumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of Switzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So that's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and have already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty, Where were you able to find the information about your ancestor arriving on the ship, Charles from Le Havre? Did you find that on-line? I am wondering why so many came via France from Germany? My great grandfather was said to have been born in Berlin, Prussia in 1805.....so assume that Prussia had dominion over Germany at the time. I too would be interested in learning what influenced them to migrate at this time. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "B Ware" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA My great grandmother arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship: Charles, from Havre, on July 29,1840. Another family that had the same last name (Hassinger) arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship: F. Depain, from Havre, on December 8,1845. Maybe the Germans who came to New Orleans around 1805 did not want to live under the influence of the French. Some parts of Germany suffered greatly from the French Predatory Wars. The French Revolution was from 1793 - 1805. During that time, the French invaded and ruled over a section of Germany, and many of the towns were being destroyed, and many of the people were displaced or left. " Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time." Betty Ca. by way of New Orleans, La. --- On Sat, 10/2/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 11:01 AM My German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came through the Port of New Orleans. Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Helen Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Jan and all, have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. ehmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 emetery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in bout 1835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical oncert. He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at oirees". I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from ermany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that e most likely came through New York as they could not find him on what ecords they had. Does anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked from? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time. Any incite appreciated. Helen Lehmann Smith aco, TX -------------------------------------------------- rom: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> ent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM o: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Let me add to what Cate has said. My Baumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of Switzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So that's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and have already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is anyone who knows how to research property records (Vendor / purchaser index) planning on going to the conveyance office at 1340 Poydras in the near future? I am trying to tie in property bought in 1865 by my great grandmother's father Nicholas Anseman with the property inherited by her husband Henry William Hullinghorst which was owned by his father Friedrich Wilhelm Hullinghorst. The property or properties were on Gentilly Road.   The online records are only from 1989 and it costs $100 for a month's subscription.   Thanks.   Gene Hullinghorst Ann Arbor Michigan

Is there a way to find Angola or a particular prison, rather than a surname? I'm thinking if I could look at the group that may help; perhaps there is a spelling error and I can't find him.

Found out my dad was in Angola in th 30's. Now that would be an interesting find. :( Thought it was funny, he is listed as the "fingertip bandit" in the 1932 Times Picayune.  Sally ________________________________ From: Kathleen Deao <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 11:00:51 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] prison records Is there a way to find Angola or a particular prison, rather than a surname? I'm thinking if I could look at the group that may help; perhaps there is a spelling error and I can't find him. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We are in danger of losing our audio history Library of Congress read comments http://goo.gl/vUav http://goo.gl/vUav

My German ancestors came from Oldenberg, thru Bremerhaven (port) to Charlotte, NC, One went to New York and the other brother came down to New Orleans in 1836. Karen Riecke Covington, LA ________________________________ From: Helen Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, October 2, 2010 10:51:08 AM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Jan and all, I have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. Lehmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 cemetery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in about 1835.  He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical concert.  He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at soirees".  I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from Germany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that he most likely came through New York as they could not find him on what records they had. Does anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have embarked from?  Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans around 1805?  I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then in Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time. Any incite appreciated. Helen Lehmann Smith Waco, TX -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM To: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage  Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Let me add to what Cate has said.  My Baumgartner's came through La Harve > from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, > per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the > german part of Switzerland".  Whatever that means. > > My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady > born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in > the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31.  The census records mostly > said Switzerland and Cuba.  So that's what I use. > > Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and > have already told my husband and my daughter what to > do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter > my little office. > > Enjoy the search > > Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer > Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR > 5,1854 > New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > > Hi Kathy, > You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word > "perplexed"!  Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our > research. > > You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. > Germany didn't really even exist then.  It was a bunch of small political > subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one > another for territory.  So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow > Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 > "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or > maybe > the change is why they left. > > My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder"  or > someone from Switzerland.  That g-g father was from Althornbach in > Bavaria > which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of > Switzerland. > He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies ---  > maybe > he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. > > .......................................................................... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know. I'm not seeing those designations. Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Cochran <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 12:32 pm Subject: RE: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Thank you for this great map source! Can you tell me what the designation efore each country means....KCR and also seen as KSR ? -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] n Behalf Of [email protected] ent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 10:09 AM o: [email protected] ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA sometimes use www.maproom.org Danna Acker andeville, LA ----Original Message----- rom: Kathy Cochran <[email protected]> o: [email protected] ent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 11:45 am ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA o, how or where can I get a map of Europe, particulary rmany/France/Switzerland about 1833-1836? ----Original Message----- om: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Behalf Of [email protected] nt: Saturday, October 02, 2010 9:02 AM : [email protected]; [email protected] bject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 w Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA y German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came rough the Port of New Orleans. anna Acker ndeville, LA ----Original Message----- om: Helen Smith <[email protected]> : [email protected] nt: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am bject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 w Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA an and all, ave been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. mann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 etery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in out 835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical ncert. e is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at irees". I have ooked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from rmany with no luck. A eply from the William's Research Center said that e ost likely came through ew York as they could not find him on what ecords hey had. es anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked om? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to ompt them to come to America at that time. y incite appreciated. len Lehmann Smith o, TX ------------------------------------------------ m: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> t: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> ject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 w rleans, Orleans Parish, LA Let me add to what Cate has said. My aumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my randfather, per his mother and ather. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine as the german part of witzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady rn in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, he n 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So hat's hat I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and ve already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these ooks, ecords, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL ------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer ate: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM o: [email protected] ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR ,1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, ou have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word erplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. ermany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political bdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one other for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow lish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 ort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe e change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or omeone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in avaria hich is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of itzerland. e was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- ybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the otes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] th the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of the message

My great grandmother arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship: Charles, from Havre, on July 29,1840. Another family that had the same last name (Hassinger) arrived at the port of New Orleans, on the ship:  F. Depain, from Havre, on December 8,1845. Maybe the Germans who came to New Orleans around 1805 did not want to live under the influence of the French. Some parts of Germany suffered greatly from the French Predatory Wars.  The French Revolution was from 1793 - 1805. During that time, the French invaded and ruled over a section of Germany, and many of the towns were being destroyed, and many of the people were displaced or left.  " Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805?  I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time." Betty Ca. by way of New Orleans, La. --- On Sat, 10/2/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 11:01 AM My German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came through the Port of New Orleans. Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Helen Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Jan and all, have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. ehmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 emetery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in bout 1835.  He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical oncert.  He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at oirees".  I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from ermany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that e most likely came through New York as they could not find him on what ecords they had. Does anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked from?  Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805?  I am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to prompt them to come to America at that time. Any incite appreciated. Helen Lehmann Smith aco, TX -------------------------------------------------- rom: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> ent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM o: "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage  Aug 3 OR 5,1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA > Let me add to what Cate has said.  My Baumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and father. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of Switzerland".  Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady born in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, she in 1830-31.  The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba.  So that's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and have already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these books, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word "perplexed"!  Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then.  It was a bunch of small political subdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one another for territory.  So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow Polish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 "sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe the change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder"  or someone from Switzerland.   That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of Switzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies ---  maybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Hancock County Historical Society has a website with lots of historical info on births, marriages, deaths, divorces, census, etc. Definitely worth checking since many N.O. families had summer homes there and, just like today, many New Orleanians retired there. The address is www.hancockcountyhistoricalsociety.com. Jan Dean in N.O. >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 08:56:39 -0400 >From: "Carolyn Long" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jan Strickland's records >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >We should always consider Hancock County, Mississippi, as a possibility. I >found some of Marie Laveau's descendants living there at the turn of the >21st Century. > >Carolyn Long >

I sometimes use www.maproom.org Danna Acker Mandeville, LA -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Cochran <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 11:45 am Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA So, how or where can I get a map of Europe, particulary ermany/France/Switzerland about 1833-1836? -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] n Behalf Of [email protected] ent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 9:02 AM o: [email protected]; [email protected] ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA y German ancestors all seem to have embarked at LeHavre, France & came hrough the Port of New Orleans. Danna Acker andeville, LA ----Original Message----- rom: Helen Smith <[email protected]> o: [email protected] ent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 10:51 am ubject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5, 1854 ew Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA an and all, have been trying to figure out where my great-grandfather, Hermann E. hmann born 1805 in Berlin, Prussia (according to tombstone at St. Louis #3 metery.......where he may have caught the ship out of Prussia/Germany in out 1835. He shows up in New Orleans with Philippe Cioffi at a musical ncert. He is listed in city directory as a musician and "played at irees". I have looked at a CD that has immigrants to New Orleans from rmany with no luck. A reply from the William's Research Center said that e ost likely came through New York as they could not find him on what ecords hey had. oes anyone know what port in Germany that he most likely would have mbarked rom? Does anyone have German ancestors who came to New Orleans round 1805? am wondering what ...historically...was going on about then n Germany to rompt them to come to America at that time. ny incite appreciated. elen Lehmann Smith co, TX ------------------------------------------------- om: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> nt: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:57 PM : "LAOrleans" <[email protected]> bject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 w Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Let me add to what Cate has said. My Baumgartner's came through La Harve from Alsace-Lorraine according to my Grandfather, per his mother and ather. My grandfather said Alsace-Lorraine was the german part of witzerland". Whatever that means. My GGgrandfather was sometimes Swiss, sometimes German who married a lady orn in Habana, Cuba. They came to NOLA in the early 1800's, he in 1836, he in 1830-31. The census records mostly said Switzerland and Cuba. So hat's what I use. Enjoy the search, and I, too, will search until I can search no more and ave already told my husband and my daughter what to do with all these ooks, records, notebooks, etc, that continue to clutter my little office. Enjoy the search Jan Baumgartner Strickland - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Cate Schweitzer-Toepfer Date: 9/30/2010 4:05:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Jacob Born/Wilhelmina Rice Marriage Aug 3 OR 5,1854 New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA Hi Kathy, You have discovered the most common synonym for genealogy --- the word perplexed"! Most of us have many bouts of "perplexation" in our research. You need to look at maps of Europe at the time of your investigation. Germany didn't really even exist then. It was a bunch of small political ubdivisions (Konigreich, Herzogtum, etc.) which regularly fought with one nother for territory. So one day someone could be Prussian, tomorrow olish, etc and if they were from the "bach" country they may have been 10 sort of nationalities" before even knowing something had changed. Or maybe he change is why they left. My surname is SCHWEITZER, which roughly means "shepard" or "herder" or someone from Switzerland. That g-g father was from Althornbach in Bavaria which is in now southern Germany, but maybe then it was part of witzerland. He was a member of one of the New Orleans German singing societies --- aybe he could yodel, but I didn't inherit his talent<g>. .......................................................................... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the uotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message