Kathleen, Without more information, it would be difficult to make a guess. Depending on where they lived, they may have been interred in a nearby cemetery. Assuming they were Catholic, they may have been buried in St. Patrick Cemetery (Nos. 1-3). A great many Irish were buried there. I would check the WPA index. You have to go through the cemeteries one by one, but that’s the best way –- in my opinion –- to find the burial place of someone in New Orleans. Norm --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Kathleen Deao <[email protected]> wrote: . . . > I had a Monaghan family, Irish immigrants, who arrived in > N.O. in March > 1849. I believe several of them died about 1850. Is there a > likely place of burial for that time? Thanks.

Tami, Yes. There are many cemeteries in that general area: Cypress Grove (Firemen’s) Greenwood Metairie and Lake Lawn St. Patrick, Nos. 1-3 Odd Fellows Rest Masonic Holt Charity Hospital And nearby, St. John (Hope Mausoleum) Norm --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Tami Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: . . . > The Metairie Ridge area > that's the area around Cypress Grove & > Greenwood Cemeteries?

For anyone who may be interested, a new blog for the Pinta Family of New Orleans, LA and Alabama, going back to Haiti. http://pintagenealogy.blogspot.com/ Linda Dean -- THINK GREEN before printing this email

Thanks Norm. The Metairie Ridge area that's the area around Cypress Grove & Greenwood Cemeteries? On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Norm Hellmers <[email protected]>wrote: > Tami, > > The cemetery closest to 121 Jackson Avenue in 1869 was probably Lafayette > No. 1. Lafayette No. 2 was not much farther away. > > However, I would say that by 1869, people were not necessarily interred > close to where they lived. The many cemeteries west of today’s City Park on > the Metairie ridge were already in business and people from various parts of > the city were interred there. > > You can check Fred Hatfield’s site for Lafayette Cemetery No. 1 here: > http://lafayettecemetery1.com/ > Remember, however, that his list only has names that were inscribed on > tombs and vaults, which represents only a small fraction of the number of > people interred there. > > I have found that the best place to find someone is the WPA index created > in the 1930s, which in most cases, indexed a combination of tomb > inscriptions that were extant in the 1930s and then existing cemetery > records. The WPA index included the interment records of both Lafayette No. > 1 and No. 2. > > The WPA index is available on microfilm at the Louisiana Division of the > NOPL. The original card file is at the former U. S. Mint under the care of > the Louisiana State Museum. You can read about the WPA index here: > http://nutrias.org/guides/genguide/burialrecords.htm#tombstone > and here: > http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/cemeteries/info/00000022.txt > > Norm > > --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Tami Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Could someone please help me with what cemeteries > > would be around in 1869 around 121 Jackson Ave. in New > > Orleans? > . . . > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Many thanks. Tami Johnston New Orleans, Louisiana, USA www.johnstonfamily.tribalpages.com www.arnoultfamily.tribalpages.com

I've posted several memorials to Find A Grave and have taken a few pictures for requesters.  My submissions aren't nearly as vast as that of others, however.  I do snap pics in the cemeteries, then check to see if there's a memorial on Find A Grave, if not, I post one.  If there is one with no pic, I add my photo. I, too, went to the cemetery on November 1st.  It was a bit overcast, no hot sun beating during the Archbishop's mass at Lake Lawn Metairie, but by the end of it, I was awfully hot, so hot that I curbed my grave visits to just a few and plan to go out another day. I've found lots of wonderful F-A-G memorials for New England ancestors, less so for the Louisiana folk.  I found a whole mess of Rhode Island cousins buried in Providence County on Find A Grave, which thrilled me to no end. As I do family research, and find where people are buried, I enter them on F-A-G if there is not already a memorial, even if I don't have a picture of the grave.  I figure if we all do our part, entering a little at a time, we may cover a lot of territory that way. Alexa Genealogy research since 1975 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Cemeteries around Jackson Ave in 1869 I love the F-A-G site and use it often, but no luck in this particular case. I doubt they could afford markers. I was thinking a potters field, or other mass burial site, with the epidemic. Charity records don't seem to have the ones I am looking for either. I seem to have more success on Find-a-grave with small towns in the mid-west than with N.O. cemeteries on that site. Is this just my experience? Or do others have good luck with New Orleans records?

I have contributed family members info to F-A-G. I have info on lots of my Georgia ancestors, but I have found a cemetery with errors on many, many of their records. I have contacted both the contributor and the folks behind the site, with no luck in getting the corrections done, so please be careful to double check this info Most of the time it is correct, the contributors try to make sure of that, but the Green Fork Cemetery in Jenkins Co, GA is mostly wrong. Not sure what the problem is, but just letting you know. I use it a lot too, lots of good info on most of the records. Jan S - Orlando, FL -------Original Message------- From: Kathleen Deao Date: 11/10/2010 5:46:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Cemeteries around Jackson Ave in 1869 I love the F-A-G site and use it often, but no luck in this particular case. I doubt they could afford markers. I was thinking a potters field, or other mass burial site, with the epidemic. Charity records don't seem to have the ones I am looking for either. I seem to have more success on Find-a-grave with small towns in the mid-west than with N.O. cemeteries on that site. Is this just my experience? Or do others have good luck with New Orleans records? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wholeheartedly agree with a hats off to the volunteers who index cemeteries. We have been spoiled by how easy it is to click a button and find information placed there by others, whether they worked outdoors or in a library. They sure make our work effortless . . . and this is a good place to thank them!!

I have to agree with you in that very few of my family members are identified in New Orleans on Find-a-Grave. Given the age of some of the tombs and the damage done over the years to many of the name stones, it appears that very few people have walked the cemeteries just to canvas the site(s) for the purpose of identifying tombs. I believe most of the Find-a-Grave information is from volunteers who have placed their identified family members memorials on the web site. JMHO I have to admit, given the thousands of tombs/vaults located in some of the larger cemeteries around NO; plus the heat of the New Orleans day, would discourage most normal volunteers from walking their grounds ... Even walking around SL Louis Cemetery #1 on November 1st of this year, looking for the twenty tombs that I had on my list to check was rough -- the temp got into the 70's, with very little shade and a lot of whitewashed tombs; Oh yea, no clouds were visible that morning; which would have helped <grin> ... That was November - I wouldn't even try to walk a larger cemetery during the summer, if it wasn't for family members ... My Hat is off to those volunteers who love to canvas any Cemetery during the summer months! Harold Wilkinson Pensacola, FL -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathy Cochran Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Cemeteries around Jackson Ave in 1869 I found my whole Born and Rice clan in a large tomb at Lafayette Cemetary #1. I was thrilled, to say the least! Good luck with yours, Kathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Deao Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Cemeteries around Jackson Ave in 1869 I love the F-A-G site and use it often, but no luck in this particular case. I doubt they could afford markers. I was thinking a potters field, or other mass burial site, with the epidemic. Charity records don't seem to have the ones I am looking for either. I seem to have more success on Find-a-grave with small towns in the mid-west than with N.O. cemeteries on that site. Is this just my experience? Or do others have good luck with New Orleans records? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been looking for a marriage certificate for my H. E. Lehmann and Denise Develle. I found this URL on-line for the Louisiana State Archives where you can enter the name in a search box. I had to use the Advanced search and found that just entering the last name, it came up with a number of Lehmanns...but not mine. It is almost instantanious as you enter a word in the box. You might have to scoll down to see the names that come up instantly. They say they are adding names each day to the digitized pages. See: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/638/Default.aspx The charge $5.00 for ordering birth, death or marriage records. http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/641/Default.aspx for Orleans parish births http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/633/Default.aspx for Orleans Parish marriages Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Hellmers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:29 PM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Request for Death Certificate Lookups >9 Nov 2010 > > Hello List, > > If anyone is going to the Louisiana State Archives or the Louisiana > Division of the NOPL, I would appreciate a look-up of the following death > certificates in order to learn the deceased’s parents and place of death. > > Louisiana State Archives or NOPL: > > Margaret Landwehr > died 1 Oct 1878 , age 4 years > v. 73, p. 507 > > Eveline Emelia Vallory > died 10 Mar 1899 , age 1 month > v. 118, p. 1077 > > Freddie Parker > died 4 Feb 1913 , age 5 mos. > v. 156, p. 1083 > > > Louisiana State Archives only: > > John Nelson > died May 1917 > v. 169, p. 168 > > Westley Geeck > died 17 March 1927 , age 7 mos. > v. 194, p. 271 > > > Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. > > Norm Hellmers > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found my whole Born and Rice clan in a large tomb at Lafayette Cemetary #1. I was thrilled, to say the least! Good luck with yours, Kathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Deao Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Cemeteries around Jackson Ave in 1869 I love the F-A-G site and use it often, but no luck in this particular case. I doubt they could afford markers. I was thinking a potters field, or other mass burial site, with the epidemic. Charity records don't seem to have the ones I am looking for either. I seem to have more success on Find-a-grave with small towns in the mid-west than with N.O. cemeteries on that site. Is this just my experience? Or do others have good luck with New Orleans records? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I love the F-A-G site and use it often, but no luck in this particular case. I doubt they could afford markers. I was thinking a potters field, or other mass burial site, with the epidemic. Charity records don't seem to have the ones I am looking for either. I seem to have more success on Find-a-grave with small towns in the mid-west than with N.O. cemeteries on that site. Is this just my experience? Or do others have good luck with New Orleans records?

Hi, Norm I had a Monaghan family, Irish immigrants, who arrived in N.O. in March 1849. I believe several of them died about 1850. Is there a likely place of burial for that time? Thanks.

Have you checked "Findagrave.com" ? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Deao Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Cemeteries around Jackson Ave in 1869 Hi, Norm I had a Monaghan family, Irish immigrants, who arrived in N.O. in March 1849. I believe several of them died about 1850. Is there a likely place of burial for that time? Thanks. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tami, The cemetery closest to 121 Jackson Avenue in 1869 was probably Lafayette No. 1. Lafayette No. 2 was not much farther away. However, I would say that by 1869, people were not necessarily interred close to where they lived. The many cemeteries west of today’s City Park on the Metairie ridge were already in business and people from various parts of the city were interred there. You can check Fred Hatfield’s site for Lafayette Cemetery No. 1 here: http://lafayettecemetery1.com/ Remember, however, that his list only has names that were inscribed on tombs and vaults, which represents only a small fraction of the number of people interred there. I have found that the best place to find someone is the WPA index created in the 1930s, which in most cases, indexed a combination of tomb inscriptions that were extant in the 1930s and then existing cemetery records. The WPA index included the interment records of both Lafayette No. 1 and No. 2. The WPA index is available on microfilm at the Louisiana Division of the NOPL. The original card file is at the former U. S. Mint under the care of the Louisiana State Museum. You can read about the WPA index here: http://nutrias.org/guides/genguide/burialrecords.htm#tombstone and here: http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/cemeteries/info/00000022.txt Norm --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Tami Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > Could someone please help me with what cemeteries > would be around in 1869 around 121 Jackson Ave. in New > Orleans? . . .

9 Nov 2010 Hello List, If anyone is going to the Louisiana State Archives or the Louisiana Division of the NOPL, I would appreciate a look-up of the following death certificates in order to learn the deceased’s parents and place of death. Louisiana State Archives or NOPL: Margaret Landwehr died 1 Oct 1878 , age 4 years v. 73, p. 507 Eveline Emelia Vallory died 10 Mar 1899 , age 1 month v. 118, p. 1077 Freddie Parker died 4 Feb 1913 , age 5 mos. v. 156, p. 1083 Louisiana State Archives only: John Nelson died May 1917 v. 169, p. 168 Westley Geeck died 17 March 1927 , age 7 mos. v. 194, p. 271 Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Norm Hellmers [email protected]

Just thought I'd mention that a good source for finding out where your New Orleans ancestor lived is the obituaries for them or for one of their children. I found that my H. E. Lehmann lived on St. Anne entre (between) Rempartie/Rampart and Bourgogne from an obituary in the Bee. It was written in French, and not very legible, so I may not have spelled the street names correctly. (??) Wish I could get the Times Picayune. I do have Heritage Quest from our local library, but not Newsbank. Helen Lehmann Smith Waco, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Riecke" <[email protected]> To: "NO Rootsweb" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: [LAORLEAN] Street Names > Don't know if anyone is interested but there was a good artical in the > Times > Picayune yesterday about the street names of New Orleans. Here is the site > > http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2010/11/roads_scholars.html. > Karen > Covington, LA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Morning Renee, Your first two are the way I pronounce it. However, I've had it spelled many ways. Most people spell it 'McToby'. Even those that have known me since grade school. I even had the father of a friend introduce me as Mr. McToupee once. Then there are the variants like McTophey or McTopey and even McTopay. My grandfather, Frank James McTopy, is my brickwall. I've not been able to get beyond him in my search. It is as if he appeared out of thin air. According to my father, Frank James was born in Southern Indiana across the river from Louisville, KY. Frank James and his father had a fight and Frank ran away from home. He was suppose to have been raised by his grandparents in Louisville, KY. Their last name was 'Noel'. I can find no records of them nor my grandfather. There is a question as to when he was born. His grave stone says that he was born in 1888 but his World War 1 registration card that he filled out says that he was born in 1887. The first indication that I have of Frank James McTopy is from the 1908 and 1910 New Orleans City Directories. It shows that he was work for a bar in the Irish Channel of New Orleans at that time. That jives with what my father told me about his dad. With the assistance of a friend, Dwayne Montz, I was able to find him in the 1910 Louisiana census. It was Dwayne that sent me a copy of his WW1 registration card. My father and his two sisters searched many years to learn more about their father. My father and mother even went to Louisville on their honeymoon to see it they could find any record of him or his grandparents. They said that the records were destroyed in a fire. In my search I did locate a John Topy in the 1890 Louisville City Directory. Using Yahoo's white pages I located 6 people with that last name still living in Kentucky. I composed a letter explaining who I was and what I was trying to do. I included a stamped self-addressed envelop and mailed them off. I got one response from the letters.During subsequent conversations we thought that we might be related as the person said that they had lost track of one of the family members. It was determined later that we were not related. His family immigrated from Ireland. Their name was Torpey which was later changed to Topy. The man came to Louisiana in 2003 to visit us and the wife and I went to the Louisville area in 2004 to visit him. Even though we are not related we both claim each other as one. My claimed relative in KY is named Jon Topy. Strange is it not. John McTopy > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:23:41 -0600 > From: Gene Data <[email protected]> > Subject: [LAORLEAN] ok now I'm curious > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Ok .... now you've got me curious..... Is it Mack' toe p > or Mack toe' p > or > Mack top' e > or > Mack' ta p > > Any of the above?????? > Renee > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LAORLEAN list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the LAORLEAN mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LAORLEAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 274 > ****************************************

Don't know if anyone is interested but there was a good artical in the Times Picayune yesterday about the street names of New Orleans. Here is the site http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2010/11/roads_scholars.html. Karen Covington, LA

Ok .... now you've got me curious..... Is it Mack' toe p or Mack toe' p or Mack top' e or Mack' ta p Any of the above?????? Renee

Hi all.  Grew up in Shreveport, La. which is just across the river from Bossier.  We basically  called the city Bosure with only 1 s.  If I remember right, Bossier  City, located in Bossier parish, was named after a  creole  french planter by the same name.  Maybe some one who knows french from the early days of Louisiana's history can give you  the correct pronunciation. H. McCarthy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Wieland" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2010 2:35:10 PM Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] Help w/ surname Considering the possibility that this could be a surname whose original spelling the family altered to get folks to pronounce it correctly, how IS it pronounced?  Any idea of the ethnic origins?  It suggests Germanic to me.  Just speculating... Kathleen Wieland in Connecticut, by way of New Orleans ----- Original Message ----- From: Tami Johnston <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:33:57 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [LAORLEAN] Help w/ surname Hi List: I am jumping back into research & am wondering if anyone can help me locate where my Doclar family came from. I attempted to do a Google search, but had no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- Many thanks. Tami Johnston New Orleans, Louisiana, USA www.johnstonfamily.tribalpages.com www.arnoultfamily.tribalpages.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message