This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUp.2ACIB/129.1 Message Board Post: My grandfather was named Felicien Landry but he was born in 1898 (could be his son?)

In a message dated 11/5/2001 2:56:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, Don2717@aol.com writes: > > I am sure I have missed messages snet to me because I have deleted them > rather than open them and have my PC become infected with a virus, or find > myself accepting pornographic material that is then too hard to shake. > > Am I alone in this? > > Don Landry > Don, I am doing the same thing! I am not opening any downloads. Carol Thibodeaux Cajuncolleen@aol.com

I guess the war in Afganistan and the anthrax contamination of the mail, news media and government offices has taken a toll on everyone's everyday life. The economy has taken a nosedive with retail sales and other activity coming to an all time low. All of this has caused a ripple effect on just about everything, including activity on the genealogy mailing lists, etc. I noticed this awhile back and made a comment and there was some response, but if my e-mail mailbox is any indication, genealogy is way down on the list of things that we are thinking about for the past 2-1/2 months. Adding to this, the virus attacks on the computers this year has made us all gun shy and reluctant to open e-mail messages that are not specific and from someone we recognize. I am sure I have missed messages snet to me because I have deleted them rather than open them and have my PC become infected with a virus, or find myself accepting pornographic material that is then too hard to shake. Am I alone in this? Don Landry don2717@a0l.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUp.2ACIB/506.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Andre, I would not remove her at this time. Perhaps mark her with a question mark. The report is a theory, to be yet proven one way or the other. Unfortunatly, there is no positive link between Marie Sale and Michelle Aucoin either. A bummer for sure.

In a message dated 11/3/01 7:50:03 AM Central Standard Time, andre_lozier@yahoo.com writes: > If Marie Sale is not the mother of Rene Landry, she was never married to any > Landry's? Then she has no connections to the Landry's at all. Is that > correct? Yes she was not the mother of eaither Rene Landry and was not married to any Landry. Don

In a message dated 11/3/01 7:49:49 AM Central Standard Time, andre_lozier@yahoo.com writes: > Exactly what relationship do Rene Landry & Rene Landry l'jeune have to each > other? If there was no Jean Claude Landry, then were these 2 men ever > related at all? ============= On the origin of the Acadian Landrys: According Stephen A. White, genealogist at the University of Moncton's Centre d'Etudes Acadiennes in Moncton New Brunswick, "regarding the origin and the parents of the two René Landrys, there is probably no other Acadian family about whose background there has been so much speculation and wishful thinking. The result is that what we actually know about the Landry families, who emigrated from France to Acadia, has come to be regrettably enshrouded in a dense fog of error and confusion. Four individuals named Landry, who were born in France, appear in the Acadian censuses of 1671, 1678, 1686, and 1693. Two of these were men, both named René, and two were women, named Perrine and Antoinette. Many researchers have presumed that these four Landrys were all closely related, but such is not the case. In fact, while it is possible to prove that Antoinette Landry was the sister of one of the Renés and permissible to believe that Perrine Landry was his sister as well. But after a study of the dispensations granted upon the marriages of the descendants of the Landrys, it appears that the first two René Landrys in Acadia could not have bee been any more nearly related to the other René Landry than as cousins in the second or third degree. The proofs to which I have just alluded repose in the presence or absence of dispensations for consanguinity in the records of the marriages of the descendants of the Landrys. As you may know, until the first world war, the Catholic Church required dispensations of relationships, whether by blood or by marriage, as remote as the fourth degree, that is as distant as those between third cousins, or persons whose great-grandparents included siblings. In the case of Antoinette Landry and the elder René Landry, we find, for example, that when Antoinette's great-grandson Francois Brun married the elder René's great-granddaughter Madeleine Dupuis, October 24, 1735, at Port Royal, there was a dispensation granted the young couple for the fourth degree consanguinity. I can refer you to at least eight more marriage records in which like dispensations are marked down, all involving great-grandchildren of Antoinette Landry, who wed great grandchildren of the elder René Landry. Two among these eight are mentioned in an article on the Landrys that the late Father Patrice Gallant published in the Cahiers de la Societe historique acadienne in 1972 (Vol. IV, pp. 271-273), Unfortunately, Father Gallant confused the question of the relationships among the Landrys, despite his good intentions, by misidentifying the parents of Madeleine Dupuis' parents, Jean Dupuis and Anne Richard. He confounded and Anne with another couple, Jean Dupuis and Marguerite Richard, who were the other Jean's nephew and Ann's first cousin. By chance, both Dupuis couples descended from Landrys, while the Jean Dupuis who married Marguerite Richard was a grandson of the younger René Landry. Father Gallant thus got the two Rene Landrys mixed up, which gave him the impression that both René Landrys were Antoinette Landry's brothers, and thus brothers one to the other. As you can see, however, the dispensations to which Father Gallant referred to, when properly worked out, only have the potential to connect the elder René Landry to Antoinette. As both Antoinette Landry and the elder René Landry married Bourgs, it would appear that one could explain the relationship between their respective descendants equally well by supposing that Antoine Bourg and Perrine Bourg were siblings. Fortunately, there is an easy way to resolve this apparent dilemma. Perrine Bourg had first married Simon Pelleret, and their two daughters had numerous descendants, at least seven of whom married descendants of Antoine Bourg who would have been their third cousins, if Perrine and Antoine had in fact been sister and brother. Not one of the records of these seven marriages includes a dispensation for any degree of consanguinity whatsoever. The possibility that Perrine and Antoine were siblings can thus be eliminated, leaving only the possibility, which may thereby be considered amply proved, that Antoinette Landry was a sister to the elder René Landry. The widow Perrine Landry, who had married Jacques Joffriau but is not known to have had any children, is listed in the censuses of 1671 and 1678 as residing beside or with Laurent Granger and Marie Landry. As Marie Landry was the daughter of the elder René Landry, it may be supposed that Perrine was very nearly related to him too. Given that Perrine was sixty years old in 1671, when the elder René Landry was himself fifty-three, it seems quite likely that Perrine was this René's sister. On the other hand, your ancestor, the younger René Landry (lejeune), was not nearly related to any of these other Landrys. We can be sure of this from the absence of dispensations in the records of the marriages of his descendants to descendants of either the elder René Landry or Antoinette Landry. The younger Rene's grandson Germain Dupuis, for example, married the elder Rene's granddaughter Marie Granger, November 3, 1717, at Grand-Pré, without any dispensation for kindred. Had the two Renés been even first cousins, there would have had to have been a dispensation for consanguinity in the fourth degree in this record. Regarding Antoinette Landry and the younger René, I would point out the absence of dispensations in the marriages of Joseph Landry and Marie-Joseph Bourg, Jan 11, 1745 at Grand Pré, of François Landry and Dorothée Bourg, November 21, 1731, at Grand Pré and of Jean Daigre and Madeleine Landry, November 6, 1721 at Grand Pré. In all three of these instances the Landrys were grandchildren of the younger René, and their three spouses were all great-grandchildren of Antoinette Landry. We can thus rule out any possibility of the younger René being the brother, or even the nephew of Antoinette. And about the mysterious "Jean-Claude Landry", Stephen A. White, Genealogist, Centre d'etudes Acadiennes writes: "What can I tell you about "Jean-Claude Landry" that I have not already said? Not much, I can assure you. No one has brought forward any new information to show that two different census takers, at two separate times, both forgot to put the name Landry in the entries pertaining to the widow Marie Salé. No one has discovered a cache of passenger lists for any of the vessels mentioned by Father Lanctot to show, as he maintains, that "Jean-Claude Landry" arrived in Acadia on a certain date, at the head of a group of a specific number of family members, In these circumstances, serious researchers must agree that nothing supports the contention that there ever was a "Jean-Claude Landry" in early Acadia." "No one really knows how the Landrys came to Acadia, how many of them came together, if indeed they did come in a group, or if and how they were related, beyond the simple fact that Rene Landry l'Aine and Antoinette Landry were brother and sister. We certainly have no documentation to show that Rene and Antoinette were twins! Even though Rene and Antoinette are said to have both been fifty-three years old in the 1671 census, no experienced genealogist would read that as meaning that they necessarily born at the same time, because such records are rarely strictly accurate. After all, fifteen years later, in 1686. Antoinette is said to have been eighty! And by 1693 she had regressed to seventy-six. Such records are merely guides; they do not admit strict interpretation. To go further, without additional proofs, is to indulge in the creation of romantic fiction". "It is most regrettable that Father Lanctot chose to present his account of the history of our early Acadian families as though all of his points were based on documented facts. And it is reprehensible that a publisher saw fit to distribute such an admixture of truth and fantasy, as though it were serious history. The result is particularly invidious insofar as those people who have little or no means to consult the original records are concerned. They are left to suppose that Lanctot's work is a reliable piece of research, where as it is in fact treacherously misleading, because there are some extremely good information mixed in with the bad."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUp.2ACIB/509 Message Board Post: I apologise for these questions but I want to get the database correct & accurate as much as I can. Exactly what relationship do Rene Landry & Rene Landry l'jeune have to each other? If there was no Jean Claude Landry, then were these 2 men ever related at all? Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUp.2ACIB/506.1.1.2 Message Board Post: I have read the info at the LandryStuff web site - it is very interesting. Another question. If Marie Sale is not the mother of Rene Landry, she was never married to any Landry's? Then she has no connections to the Landry's at all. Is that correct? She is only the mother of Michelle Aucoin? So I can remove Marie as being Rene Landry's mother. And just keep her as being Michelle's mother only. Please advise if this is correct. I have to do some revising of my database.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BOUTEILLER/BOUTHILLIER, HAMELIN, LABERGE, LEFORT and BELLEFEUILLE, BOYER, HUBERT/HÉBERT, LEGAULT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUp.2ACIB/508 Message Board Post: Hello Fellow Researchers, I have a line that I cannot seem to get anywhere with. This is what I have... Alfred Laberge (son of André & Josephte LANDRY) Married: 8 Nov. 1860 in Gatineau, Qc + Célina Hurtubise If anyone has any information on Josephte LANDRY and her marriage to André Laberge, it would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks! Jo Ann Laberge Boyer Dorval, Québec, Canada

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Michelle at: phllpsmck85p@aol.com. requests information on Olivine Landry d/o Frank Landry b- 9-28-1884; d- 3-9-1927 m- Eugene Ernest Tatro Don Landry don2717@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUp.2ACIB/77.79.84.193.1 Message Board Post: My grandfather was Adrien Landry married to Laurencia Fortin in La Cap St Ignace Canada. There were 4 Children. My mother (Georgette), Theresa, Paul and the yougest Henry who was in the army in the early 50's Paul was a fisherman out of New Bedford and he was married to Gladys. They had a son named Nicky. Theresa was married to Emil and had 2 kids Joanne and a boy named ?? There wasn't any Lionel that I know of. If you are related to any of these Landrys we are related. I have a new email adress jveradt@msn.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LANDRY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUp.2ACIB/77.79.84.193 Message Board Post: I SAW YOUR MESSAGE AND HAD TO TELL YOU, THERE ARE 2 FAMILIES IN SOUTH HADLEY,MA. THE FAMILY WITH LIONEL IS NOT RELATED TO ME (THAT I KNOW OF), BUT, THE OTHER LANDRY'S (ME), THE FURTHEREST I CAN FIND SO FAR IS GUILLAUME OZITHE (LEGER) LANDRY.SON: HENRY JOSEPH LANDRY B 1892 M MARY MAE MACDOUGALL, SON FRANCIS (?RICHARD)FRANCIS M RENA MERCURE. RICHARD LANDRY M LINDA SUSAN CYR 1965, 2 KIDS STEVEN AND DENISE. BORN HOLYOKE,MA LIVED SOUTH HADLEY. BY COINCIDENCE, THE OTHER LANDRY FAMILY ABOUT SAME AGE AS MY PARENTS , SAME FIRST NAMES, ALL LIVED SOUTH HADLEY, THEY:3 OR 4 KIDS, MINE 2 KIDS E-MAIL ME IF WE'RE RELATED DJCONT@PRODIGY.NET

Attention all Landry attorneys and attorneys sympathetic to Acadian history and genealogy: I recently sent out a notice of the pirating of the Landry Family Association's website's URL; http:///www.landryfamily.com/ and turning into a pornographic site. I need to know what legal action can be taken to wrest our website I.D. and with it our surname LANDRY from this pornographer and vulture. Please e-mail me and Jim Landry to let us know what to do to correct this travesty. Jim Landry, webmaster. e-mail address: jim@landrystuff.com. Don Landry, contributor e-mail address: don2717@aol.com

Attention all Landrys, webmasters and friends of the Landry Family Association: Somehow the old URL address: http://www.landryfamily.com which was for the Landry Family Association's website has been sold by "Readynet" to a pornographer and if your website links to it then the link will connect your viewers to a pornographic site. PLEASE CHANGE YOUR LINK TO OUR NEW SITE AT: http://www.landrystuff.com I would appreciate it if you would spread the word to all of your friends and mailing lists. Lets not let a pornographer profit by the countless hits the old site recieves by people trying to access Landry family information and genealogical data. Those of you who have websites and have a link to our old URL, please let me know if you have recieved this notice and taking steps to remove the link from your site. The old site has become a shocking and filthy display of pornography, that I am sure you do not want to view , or promote on your site. Jim Landry, webmaster. email address: jim@landrystuff.com. Don Landry, contributor email address: don2717@aol.com For more information on the new site and the Landry database check Jim Landry's home page at: www.landrystuff.com/jim If you would like more information on this mess, please contact us at the above e-mail addresses

In a message dated 10/22/01 7:51:09 PM Central Daylight Time, marshal@datastar.net writes: > I have a > question about Andr*e Guyon, the second wife of Antoine Belliveau. > Could someone kindly shed some light on her for me. > I have her (Andr*e Guyon) first marrying 'Andre Bernard'. and one > of their daughters was 'Marie Bernard' who married Rene Landry in 1659. > Rene & Marie Bernard had a daughter, Marie Landry who married Martin > Dupuis. Is this correct please? > > The article states that Andr*e Guyon had two daughters from an > unknown Bernard. Could someone furnish the other daughter's name...and > I only have a born 1620 Beauvoir Surmer Vandee, France for Andre > Bernard...if his name was actually 'Andre' Bernard??. ========================= René LANDRY le jeune [the younger] (parents and origin unknown) n v 1634 possibly Loudon, France. (Rc PR 1686 52a); d (Décl BIM av Rc 1693. Il est décédé vers 1692 en Port Royal (Bona Arcenault vol. 2, p .624) It is believed by some that René LANDRY died in 1683 at age 53 in Port Royal, but there is no documentation of this. René LANDRY m. vers 1659 en Port Royal, Acadia to Marie BERNARD née vers 1645 en Martiaze, en Vendée, France, Fille de ….?… Bernard et Andrée Guion (née vers circa 1615). Marie BERNARD décédé Jan. 11, 1719; s Rg 11 jan v 1719 en Port Royal, Acadie. According to Stephen White's Dictionnaire, page 916, René LANDRY le jeune's death was recorded in the Déclarations de Belle-Ile-en-Mer. The Dictionnaire lists him as dying before the census of 1693. His place of birth is unknown and the place of marriage to Marie BERNARD is unknown. Marie BERNARD's place of birth is unknown. She was the daughter of Unknown Bernard and Andrée Guyon. There is no information available on Marie's father - Andrée was born abt 1615 and her second husband was Antoine Belliveau married abt 1651 Source: Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes by Stephen A. White, p 125 ======= MARIE BERNARD, 1645 MARIE BERNARD ( ???????? (1) & André Guyon) n v 1645; s Rg 11 Janv 1719.(S.A. White "Dictionaire généalogique des families acadiennes, partie I (1636?1714) v 1659 (in progress) Andrée GUYON married Antoine BELLIVEAU abt 1651. At the time of his marriage, she was the widow of and Unknown BERNARD - some researchers have listed this former marriage to her marriage to Andre Bernard. Andrée Guyon was born abt 1615. Antoine was born ca 1621. There were two children from each marriage. Dicitonnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes by Stephen A. White, page 96 >From Andrée's marriage to ------ Bernard were born: Marie born abtr 1645.She married René Landry abt 1659. She was buried 11 Jan 1719 at Port-Royal. Jeanne was born abt 1666 and married Guyon (Dion ou Denis) Chiasson dit LaVallée son of Pierre and Marie Péroché. She died abt 7 October 1683. So as you see, there could be no descendants from this line since they had two daughters and no sons. Dicitonnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes by Stephen A. White, page125 You need to consult S. A. White's Dictionnaire, pp. 124 ff. Some of the entries have been quoted on this list in the last few days. The bottom line is that André is most probably NOT the father of René; the parents of René are not known. RENE BERNARD, 1663, s'est etabli a Beaubassin. Hope this helps don Landry

Can anyone help Tina Mouton at: tinam52@yahoo.com tinam52@telocity.com with her family line? This is what she wrote to me: Hello Don! I think we connected a few years back when I had just gotten started with all this. I started out by picking up a binder kept by my brother in law, who passed away back in 1997. He had started his research 20 or so years before, and I was fascinated with his notes. Since then I have found that not all his info was correct, but what a start he gave me. I just wish I had developed the interest while he was living. Anyway, thanks for gemailing me. You have the correct family listed for me. I had come across the Onesime Landry you have listed, and suspected that he was probably Joseph Landry's father, but have had no way to prove this. If you have a firm connection, I would very much appreciate your information. I followed this Onesime through the census as far as I could. Since Joseph's father was not married to Suzanne, I doubt there are written records of their relationship other than Joseph's marriage documents (I have a copy of those). While researching the 1870 census for Calcasieu Par, I did discover that there was a Susan Dupre (mulatto, age 12 in 1870)living at house/family# 107. Onesime Landry was 19 and living with his widowed mother and sister Marie in house/family #113. This is the only Susan (Suzanne?) I found in close proximity to Onesime. I have felt that she could have been Joseph's mother, but have no way to substantiate this. I wonder how close together these household could have been? The Dupre family are no longer neighbors in the 1880 census. By then, Onesime was married to "Ophelia", with his widowed mother still living with him. Joseph Landry's mother Suzanne was deceased when he married Louvinia Lavergne in 1890. Could she have died in childbirth? Maybe that is why the family talks about Joseph being raised by his father's family. Joseph Landry's death certificate lists his father as "Bebe" Landry (information for death cert was provided by Jos son Tonise). This is obviously a nickname, and it makes me think that Joseph must have had some level of relationship with his father. I have not been successful in finding Joseph Landry on the census until 1900. I would love to find an 8 y/o Joseph landry someplace in the 1880 census! Too bad the 1890 census is gone. You filled in a blank for me about Louvinia Lavergne, Joseph Landry's wife. I did not have her date of death confirmed. 1931 fits, as she was dead when my father in law (their son) Carlton Landry married in 1936. I have been trying to find a death cert for Louvinia, but no luck so far. What is your source? I have information on Louvinia's family. Let me know if you want that. I have a photo of Louvina that is great, and a restored pic of her parents as well (William and Marie [Thibodeaux] Lavergne) I would like to compare notes with you regarding Joseph and Louvinia's children. This is what I have: Lenton Landry b. 1893 Felix Landry b. 1897 Marie Landry b. 1899 Tonise Landry b. 1903 d. 1997 ("got all the old man's land" according to my father-in-law). Tonise's son Paul Landry recently died in Mamou (lived in Eunice) Inolia Landry Elton Landry Alvin Landry Carlton Landry b. 1915 d. 1997 (my father-in-law) Morris Landry I only show 9 kids. Joseph remarried and had a 10th kid with his second wife "Onesia". This was Shelton Landry, probably born in may 1934, died in 1985. Do you show another child for Joseph and Louvinia, or is Shelton the 10th? Thanks! Tina tinam52@yahoo.com tinam52@telocity.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUp.2ACIB/78.1 Message Board Post: Your Lufroi Landry was actually Hubert Euphroy Landry dit Goderoy bn 18 July 1802 in St. martinville who married in St. Martinville on 22 January 1827 to Eloise Modeste LeBlanc bn 7 Jan 1809 at st. Martinville They had 12 children: Hubert Godefroy Eloise Louise Odile Alphred Artemise Marie Alexis Alix Alice Euphrosine Rosalie Ozeme Don Landry don2717@aol.com

I have Joseph Landry bn 1872 in Opelousas died 1940 in Eunice, LA s/o Ozeme Landry bn June 28 1850 & Susanne ??? m. Louvina Laverne bn 1876 in St. Landry parish died 1931 in Calcasieu parish d/o William Lavergne Marie Thibodeau . I have 10 children of Joseph Landry & Louvina Laverne listed Ozeme Landry is the s/o Hubert Euphroy Landry, II & Eloise Modeste leBlanc and is descendant of Firmin Landry and his second wife Theotiste Thibodeau through Hubert Euphroy Landry & Anna Rupfrosine Legros. I have very little information on Ozeme Landry & Suzanne ??? Please send me more information on this familuy line. Don Landry don2717@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUp.2ACIB/343.379.383 Message Board Post: The story passed down in the line of Landrys I am connected with (from SW LA, French speaking) is that Joseph Landry, born around 1872, was the son of a white man and an ex-slave. I have located his marriage documents, and his father is listed as Onesime Landry and mother is listed as Suzanne, no last name. I have found a couple of Onesime (or variations on the spelling : Ozeme, Onezime, Ozime) Landrys in the census records from SW LA. The story goes that Joseph Landry was taken from his mother and given to an aunt and uncle to raise (Philemon, Philomene Landry??). Joseph married Louvinia Lavergne, who was the dtr of William and Marie Lavergne. They were FPOC before emancipation, as far as I can tell. The family says that Louvinia was "an Indian" and a Healing Woman. (I also found out recently that she was a bootlegger, too!). I would love to exchange info with anyone connected with this family.