To All Landis, Landes, and Landers researchers, The recent post I made re: the Landes lines are as indicated, in apparent ERROR. The early sources I recorded were from internet sources, and have yet to be researched in a method that assures 100% accuracy, this is why i posted about conflicts and confusion the other day. The purposes of sharing the information is 1. to get everyone's input as to the accuracy 2. gain valid sources 3. correct errors 4. help those who may not have reached the levels in the records. Since three years ago when I "Gathered" the data and now my record keeping of sources has been much improved. the sources I had early gathered were recorded in my computer, which crashed taking them to oblivion, I was able to restore the family lijes froma saved gedcom, but the gedcom had not been updated with sources. So now I am in "Reconstruction, and verification." The value of these lists, and resources, is that a wide experience level is available, and learned persons like Janice Lund, are there to help those of us out here with "bad" data get it straight. Please do not take the Landes post as "Gospel" it is for the most part unsourced.I will do what I can in the future (on this list and whenever possible) to include sources in each post, to keep the confusion from spreading. Janice is right, we are about to have many new computer genealogist in our midst, and we need to be careful of what we "broadcast". Jeff Scism ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.