Problem is there were just so many James Lord's born around that time. That's why I can't 'place' my James, who married Anna Lees. Guess all the Rochdale LORD's were related somewhere along the line, so we may be in touch again some time! Cheers Pauline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.841 / Virus Database: 572 - Release Date: 21/01/05