Ian Yes, I think I mean Churchgate. The Theatre - well, there was something to do with the Civil War thereabouts. I have it in my head that there was a monument or something similar or a notice on the wall, was it something to do with the Earl of Derby. My brain must be out of focus. No, I was not there during the Civil War!! Olive

Yes. Olive, I know where you mean, the Old Man and Scythe Inn in Churchgate. It's been a pub "sin' Adam were a lad", and there is a sign saying that the Earl of Derby, then Lord Lieutenant of Lancaster, spent his last night there before getting "topped" in the square for attacking Bolton during the War. It was apparently Prince Rupert really, but they wouldn't beleive him. Apparently the citizens were proper sorry for him and bewailed his loss summat awful. No, I missed the Civil War too. Sorry to be a smarty-clogs, but I'm fascinated by Military History! There was a bit of a battle at Westhoughton too, it seems, some Cavaliers thumped us Howfeners up Church Road. The theatre or cinema is fairly near there, it is or was Bolton Market Square. Love Local History too! Cheers, Ian

Another "clever clogs" Lancastrian exiled in Cheshire writes: The River Irwell in Bolton ? Perhaps it's the River Croal. RecumbentDennis in Chester UK PS We had a Granelli's in Bury and most of the senior members of the Italian ice-cream families, who didn't have British citizenship were internees in Warth Camp Bury opposite my home at the start of WW2. In addition to Granelli ice-cream family, there was Ianussi & Longenotti in other parts of Lancashire, not forgetting Pablo's in Southport. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Winterbottom" <i.winterbottom@ntlworld.com> To: <LANCSLIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [LANCSLIFE] More Ice Cream! > Yes. Olive, I know where you mean, the Old Man and Scythe Inn in > Churchgate. It's been a pub "sin' Adam were a lad", and there is a sign > saying that the Earl of Derby, then Lord Lieutenant of Lancaster, spent his > last night there before getting "topped" in the square for attacking Bolton > during the War. It was apparently Prince Rupert really, but they wouldn't > beleive him. Apparently the citizens were proper sorry for him and bewailed > his loss summat awful. No, I missed the Civil War too. Sorry to be a > smarty-clogs, but I'm fascinated by Military History! There was a bit of a > battle at Westhoughton too, it seems, some Cavaliers thumped us Howfeners up > Church Road. The theatre or cinema is fairly near there, it is or was Bolton > Market Square. Love Local History too! Cheers, Ian > > > ==== LANCSLIFE Mailing List ==== > Lancashire OnLine: http://www.lancashire-online.co.uk/ > Virtual Encyclopedia of Manchester: http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/index2.html > Dialect: http://www.nyt.co.uk/lancashire.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >