In a message dated 11/09/2005 23:41:26 GMT Standard Time, heeren@usit.net writes: "mawpin scom"... Could it be moping, not sure about the scom Gay J Oliver, Stalybridge, Cheshire www.members.aol.com/victoroly/genealogy.htm www.members.aol.com/gayjoliver/Tameside.htm www.fhsc.org.uk/fhsc/dukinfield.htm www.tamesidehistoryforum.org.uk