Antony Probably by that prolific philosopher "Anon" as when I forwarded your message to a friend who was brought up in Bury, I received the following reply: <<My Dad's variation was trotted out when one person was trying to console another that they'd get used to some thing or situation.---''T'donkey got used t'eitin sawdust bu'rit deed''.>> RecumbentDennis in Chester UK Researching: TURNER BARKER EVES HOUGH KELLY LORD in Norfolk, Warrington, Heywood, Rochdale and Todmorden all in UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Go Go Gunners" <antonylambert@dialsquarea.wanadoo.co.uk> To: <LANCSLIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: [LANCSLIFE] Randall's Donkey > Any one heard of this phrase.

Any one heard of this phrase. It was something my gran always said and we never knew where it come from. Apparently the beast "just got used to goin' 'bout eatin' when it deed" She always said it when you didn't want much to eat. Antony Lambert; the Certificate Man. Certificates in 5 Days see: www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/certificates.htm or e-mail antonylambert@certificates.fsnet.co.uk

Hi Antony My dad always said this too and I find myself saying it when someone isn't eating or is off their food. Another of dads' is ' If I knew where I was gonna dee I'd never go near place' Best wishes, Pauline

Dear Listers, "Making the Most of Message Boards" in this week's "RootsWeb Review" is a very good article with lots of helpful links. If you don't subscribe to the Review, you can read this issue at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/2005/0126.txt If you don't receive "RootsWeb Review," do consider subscribing. Each issue of the Review contains "information about additions and/or changes to RootsWeb.com (such as new databases, mailing lists, and websites), plus tips on using RootsWeb.com, genealogical research, humor, readers' stories and tips, and other articles of interest to family historians around the world." Another good thing: it's free! :-) Go to http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ to subscribe. Best wishes, Lynne List Admin.

One of the projects undertaken by the Manchester & Lancashire FHS is the extraction of death notices from Manchester newspapers (1900-1940) that refer to the deceased being cremated at Manchester Crematorium. The surnames are on the Society's web page (go to www.mlfhs.org.uk, click on Projects, and then scroll down to the Crematorium Project). If you don't see a surname you expected to see there, check back later because this project is not yet completed . If you are not a Society member, there is a small charge for anyone requesting the text and source for any surname listed. HTH someone! Best wishes, Lynne

> Another map source: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genmaps/. Hope you find > something helpful. :-) > > Best wishes, > Lynne > Many more here, including the above! :o) http://rmhh.co.uk/maps.html -- Rodney HALL, Heywood, Lancashire Suaviter sed fortiter; Agreeably but powerfully ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ rmh@rmhh.co.uk; http://rmhh.co.uk/; http://rmhh.org.uk/

Forwarded with the kind permission of John Marsden <john@marsden-ons.co.uk> -------- Original Message -------- Hi I am pleased to announce the addition of new data to the indexes at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk 12,775 births for Chorley RD comprising: Chorley Register Office (1857-1869) and Croston Register Office (1873-1900) 57,280 marriages for Liverpool RD. Please note where dates shown include the years 1875-1935 the entries between these years had been published previously and the new entries only cover the years outside this period. Coverage as below: Aintree, St. Peter (1880-1996) Anfield, St. Columba (1936-1988) Anfield, St. Simon & St. Jude (1926-1959) Fazakerley, Emmanuel (1922-1939) Fazakerley, St. Nathaniel Parish Church (1938-1980) Norris Green, Christ Church (1936-1950) Walton Breck, Holy Trinity (1872-1949) Walton on the Hill, St. John The Evangelist (1935-1940) Walton on the Hill, St. Luke The Evangelist (1936-1951) Walton, St. Margaret (1936-1977) Walton, St. Mary (1871-1937) Kirkdale, St. Mary (1871-1951) Kirkdale, St. Lawrence (1936-1947) Kirkdale, St. Aidan (1861-1945) Kirkdale, North Shore, St. Paul (1868-1950) Liverpool, St. Alban (1936-1947) Everton, St. George (1866-1939) Liverpool, All Saints (1849-1936) Toxteth Park, All Saints (1936-1955) Liverpool, All Souls (1872-1872) Everton, St. Ambrose (1936-1974) West Derby, St. Philip (1844-1936) Toxteth Park, St. Andrew (1936-1940) Fairfield, St. John The Divine (1936-1963) Stanley, St. Paul (1936-1993) Norris Green, St. Christopher (1936-1940) West Derby, St. James (1936-1989) West Derby, St. Mary The Virgin (1936-1956) Knotty Ash, St. John The Evangelist (1837-1936) Stanley, St. Anne (1936-1937) Stoneycroft, All Saints (1936-1941) West Derby, Good Shepherd (1936-1970) Tuebrook, St. John The Baptist (1872-1966) Liverpool, St. Anne (1936-1965) Edge Hill, St. Cyprian (1936-1953) Edge Hill, St. Dunstan (1936-1960) Edge Hill, St. Mary (1872-1942) Edge Hill, St. Stephen The Martyr (1870-1959) Kirkdale, St. Athanasius (1936-1943) Everton, St. Augustine (1936-1941) Liverpool, St. Bride With St. Saviour (1936-1956) Toxteth Park, St. Agnes (1936-1940) Toxteth Park, St. Bede (1936-1944) Wavertree, St. Bridget (1872-1936) Wavertree, St. Thomas (1936-1938) Liverpool, Barnabas (1843-1874) Liverpool, Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne (1878-1878) Liverpool, St. Bartholomew (1843-1874) Toxteth, St. Philemon (1936-1957) Aigburth, St. Anne (1936-1937) Grassendale, St. Mary (1856-1888) Everton, St. Benedict (1936-1937) Edge Hill, St. Catherine (1864-1949) Toxteth Park, Christ Church (1872-1941) Liverpool, St. Catherine (1859-1941) Toxteth Park, St. Clement (1842-1939) Toxteth Park, St. Cleopas (1867-1874) Toxteth, St. Gabriel (1936-1938) Princes Park, St. Margaret (1893-1945) Toxteth Park, St. Michael (1866-1939) Allerton, All Hallows (1936-1942) Childwall, All Saints (1855-1963) Wavertree, St. Michael (1839-1939) Gateacre, St. Stephen (1936-1937) Springwood, All Souls (1936-1941) Wavertree, St. Barnabas (1936-1937) Woolton, St. Peter's (1837-1961) Speke, All Saints (1936-1955) Speke, St. Aidan (1958-1959) Wavertree, Holy Trinity (1837-1936) Wavertree, St. Mary (1856-1964) Everton, St. Peter (1873-1874) Everton, St. Chad (1936-1949) Edge Hill, Christ Church (1872-1874) Liverpool, Christ Church (1861-1874) Everton, Christ Church (1849-1957) Everton, St. Chrysostom (1855-1937) Liverpool, St. Columba (1859-1874) Everton, St. Cuthbert (1936-1969) Liverpool, St. David (1873-1874) Everton, Emmanuel (1867-1944) Liverpool, St. George (1868-1875) Liverpool, Holy Innocents (1861-1874) Liverpool, Holy Trinity (1837-1966) Toxteth Park, Holy Trinity (1862-1941) Toxteth Park, St. James (1871-1874) Liverpool, St. James The Less (1873-1941) Liverpool, St. John (1837-1874) Toxteth Park, St. John The Baptist (1874-1937) Everton, St. John The Evangelist (1936-1949) Edge Hill, St. Jude (1865-1949) Liverpool, St. Luke (1848-1940) Liverpool, St. Mark (1865-1874) Edge Hill, St. Mark (1936-1951) Liverpool, St. Martin (1860-1874) Liverpool, St. Mary Magdalene (1862-1874) Liverpool, St. Matthew (1861-1874) Toxteth Park, St. Matthew (1858-1978) Liverpool, St. Matthias (1850-1874) Edge Hill, St. Nathaniel Windsor (1871-1952) Liverpool, St. Paul (1837-1874) Toxteth Park, St. Paul (1865-1963) Liverpool, St. Peter (1917-1917) Liverpool, St. Philip (1874-1874) Everton, St. Polycarp (1936-1938) Everton, St. Saviour (1870-1960) Liverpool, St. Saviour (1854-1939) Liverpool, St. Silas (1863-1911) Toxteth Park, St. Silas (1867-1958) Liverpool, St. Simon (1874-1874) Liverpool, St. Stephen (1860-1874) Liverpool, St. Thomas (1853-1874) Toxteth Park, St. Thomas (1863-1874) Everton, St. Timothy (1868-1945) Liverpool, St. Titus (1866-1874) ++++++++++++ John Marsden Sale, Cheshire Webmaster LancashireBMD

Forwarded with the kind permission of John Marsden <john@marsden-ons.co.uk> -------- Original Message -------- Hi I am pleased to report the addition of the following new marriage data to the database at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk Many thanks to Glenys McClellan and her team for this substantial body of work. Wigan RD (13,860 marriages) Abram St. John (1854-1894) Wigan St. Thomas (1888-1896) Haigh St. David (1875-1892) Hindley All Saints (1880-1891) Ince Christ Church (1885-1892) Ince St. Mary (1888-1897) Pemberton St. John (1859-1895) Wigan St. Catherine (1883-1891) Wigan St. George (1885-1890) Wigan All Saints (1888-1898) Leigh RD (13,542 marriages) Atherton St. John the Baptist (1891-1910) Hindsford St. Anne (1901-1908) Howe Bridge St. Michael (1878-1906) Mosley Common St. John (1896-1903) Tyldesley St. George (1893-1918) Bedford St. Thomas (1886-1913) Golborne St. Thomas (1880-1912) Leigh St. Mary (1887-1916) Pennington Christ Church (1891-1914) Westleigh St. Peter (1881-1905) ++++++++++++ John Marsden Sale, Cheshire Webmaster LancashireBMD

Those of you with Manchester roots may appreciate the ManMates site at http://www.manmates.co.uk/. Best wishes, Lynne

Another map source: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genmaps/. Hope you find something helpful. :-) Best wishes, Lynne

Good afternoon all You may be interested in the following programme: BBC2 Friday January 14th 2005 2100-2200 "The Lost World of Mitchell and Kenyon" A preview says: "In 1995 an extraordinary archive of 800 pre-First World War films was discovered in sealed barrels in the basement of a shop in Blackburn, Lancs. For 80 years, the films - shot by pioneering film-makers Sagar Mitchell and James Kenyon - had lain hidden in the cellar. Now rescued and restored to their original clarity by experts at the British Film Institute, they provide a remarkable visual record of Edwardian life in Britain". This appears to be just the first of a series of programmes. Spread the word! Best wishes Ron

Events at The National Archives. For more information, please see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/events/ January 1 - 30 January Internees during war time exhibition Saturday 8 Behind the scenes tours Monday 10 Online computer taster session: DocumentsOnline Thursday 13 Online computer taster session: 1901 Census Saturday 15 Behind the scenes tours Monday 17 Online computer taster session: The Catalogue Tuesday 18 Online computer taster session: National Register of Archives, Manorial Documents Register and Archon Wednesday 19 Online computer taster session: The library catalogue Thursday 20 19:00-20:00 Cecily Neville - a medieval kingmaker Thursday 20 Online computer taster session: Pathways to the past Friday 21 Online computer taster session: Training for technophobes Requires booking, please contact us Saturday 22 Behind the scenes tours Monday 24 Online computer taster session: Family history online research for beginners Requires booking, please contact us Saturday 29 Behind the scenes tours

Events at the Family Records Centre (FRC). See http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/frc/news_events/events_calendar.htm for more information. Walter Tull at the FRC now extended until 31 January 2005 A major exhibition focusing on the life of Walter Tull, one of England's first black footballers. Walter served in the trenches as an Officer in World War One and was tragically killed on 25 March 1918. 11 January 2005, 2pm We're Talking To You -- Tracing Your Ancestors at the British Library (Oriental and India Office) 18 January 2005, 2pm We're Talking To You -- Tracing Your Ancestors at BT Archives . 25 January 2005, 2pm We're Talking To You -- Tracing Your Ancestors at the Postal Heritage Trust 1 February 2005, 2pm We're Talking To You -- Tracing Your Ancestors at Islington Local History Centre More.... 8 February 2005, 2pm We're Talking To You -- Tracing Your Ancestors at London Metropolitan Archives More....

Hi all Just to let everyone know hthat I have changed email addresses. Original address was linbev@optusnet.com.au New address is lmholland@kooee.com.au Hope everyone gets this. Cheers Linda Holland in NSW, Oz

In case you want to shift from the computer to the television <g>, you might be interested in this: > What the Victorians Did for Us > Wed 12 Jan 10:55 - 11:00 BBC Two > Filthy Food: The Victorians were beginning to try exotic foods like > ice-cream. But as Adam Hart-Davis reveals, poor food regulation meant > that these 'treats' could contain unpleasant substances. Sounds like it might not be appropriate for the squeamish! ;-) Best wishes, Lynne List Admin.

Some might find the BBC's migration timeline at http://www.bbc.co.uk/familyhistory/bloodlines/migration.shtml interesting and/or helpful. Once I started to scroll in one direction, I couldn't get it to scroll in the other, but that might be a function of my browser (or a malfunction of me!) and not their site. Best wishes, Lynne List Admin.

Forwarded with SOG's kind permission. Please note the line at the bottom of this message: >Please do not contact the Society for further details but use the contact >details given. > -------- Original Message -------- The Society regularly gets posters and flyers a volunteer has kindly summarised these for members' interest. Kings College, London Sources for family history King's College archives include records which pre-date civil registration and often include more information about individuals. The college was founded in 1829 but its archives include records of older institutions such as Guy's and St Thomas's Hospital Medical Schools. Student records include names, addresses, dates of birth, parents, attendance and academic records. Hospital case notes contain names, ages, occupations and full or partial addresses. Nursing records 1888-1966. To view catalogues visit www.kcl.ac.uk/archives Address: Archives and Corporate Records Services, Information Services and Systems, Kings College, London WC2R 2LS Tel: 020 7848 2015/1867/2011 Fax: 020 7848 2760 Email: archives.web@kcl.ac.uk Institute of Local & Family History Online courses in Family History Certificate in Family History (12 weeks); Advanced certificate in Family History (24 weeks) These courses are degree level and lead to nationally recognised University qualifications. Learn in your own home in your own time. Tutor support from professional historians. Contact: Dr Andrew Gritt, Institute of Local & Family History, University of Central Lancashire, Preston PR1 2HE. Tel: 01772 893 053 email: locfanhistory@uclan.ac.uk web: www.localandfamilyhistory.com Lancashire Record Office - Saturday openings 2005 Bow Lane, Preston, PR1 2RE Tel: 01772 533 039 email: record.office@ed.lancscc.gov.uk website: www.archives.lancashire.gov.uk The office will open on the second Saturday of each month from 10.00 a.m. until 4.00 p.m. 8 Jan; 12 Feb; 12 Mar; 9 Apr; 14 May; 11 June; 9 July; 13 Aug; 10 Sept; 8 Oct; 12 Nov; 10 Dec. N.B. No documents will be produced between 12.30 and 1.30 p.m. Sherborne Heraldry Conference: 1-3 April 2005 Venue: The Conference Centre, Sherborne School for Girls Cost: £115 residential (2 nights bed & breakfast, 2 dinners, 2 buffet lunches; £75 non-residential includes all meals but without B & B Objectives: to celbrate the colour & brilliance of heraldry, to enjoy the companionship of fellow enthusiasts. Booking enquiries to: Ian Swinnerton@btinternet.com tel: 01963 210 726 Guildhall Library Print Room Temple Bar - Gateway to the City An exhibition of paintings, prints and photos depicting the history of a London landmark. At Aldermanbury, London EC2 until 31 March 2005, open 9.30 to 5 p.m. Monday to Saturday Templebar is the last surviving gateway to the City of London. Information: tel: 020 7332 1839 Website: http://collage.cityoflondon.gov.uk Wakefield & District Family History Society Meetings are held on the first Saturday of each month (except August) Venue: Outwood Memorial Hall, Outwood, Wakefield More information send sae to the Membership Secretary, Dorothy Shackleton, 18 Rosedale Avenue, Sandal, Wakefield, WF2 6EP Secretary Ron Pullan 32 Blenheim Rd., Wakefield, WF1 3JZ email: secretary@wdfhs.co.uk Tel: 01924 373 310 The Jewish Museum Exhibition: "Disraeli - a Man of Many Parts" until 27 Feb 2005 Venue: The Jewish Museum, Raymond Burton House, 129-131 Albert St., Camden Town, London NW1 Tel: 020 7284 1997 website: www.jewishmuseum.org.uk Monday to Thursday 10am- 4pm, Sundays 10am - 5pm Cost: £3.50, Senior citizens £2.50, Children/students £1.50, Family tickets £8 Other events: Sunday 16 Jan at 2.30 pm "An Armchair tour of Disraeli's London" at the Museum's lecture room. Admission £8. Sunday 6 Feb at 11 am Walking tour: Jewish milestones in London. Meeting place St Paul's tube station. Sunday 30 Jan at 3 pm "Alien or Englishman? Disraeli's Jewishness" Tuesday 15 Feb at 7pm "The Victorian Rothschilds" an illustrated talk by Melanie Aspey. Admission £5. Events for children and families: 17 Feb at 10.30 am and 2 pm "Fantasies in Glass" Half term workshops Admission £6 please book in advance Sunday 20 March at 2 pm "Marvellous Masks for Purim" For children aged 7 and over; Admission £5 King's College, London. 175th Anniversary. Online exhibitions. "In the beginning" the story of the foundation and early history of King's. www.kcl.ac.uk/archives/175th "Coming to London" celebrates the diverse origins of many King's students www.kcl.ac.uk/archives/london "Mayhem in the Metropolis" the history of the student rag. www.kcl.ac.uk/archives/rag "DNA: the King's story" explains the crucial part played by the College in cracking the secret code of life. www.kcl.ac.uk/archives/dna "Dentistry; from pulling power to growing your own" www.kcl.ac.uk/archives/dentistry English Heritage - Events April 2005 onwards Medieval Knights invade England- The Tournament will challeng four teams of 15th century knights to demonstrate their costume, colour and ceremony whilst competing against each other at jousting, archery, foot combat and falconry. Dates & venues: May14th-15th Porchaster castle Hampshire June 11th - 12th Audley End Hall, Essex June 25th - 26th Kirby Hall, Northamptonshire July 16th - 17th Belsy Hall, Northumberland August 2nd - 3rd Final - Festival of History Kelmarsh Hall, Northamptonshire Gates open at 11am Saturday and Sunday except for the final when the gates open at 10 am Cost: Adults from £6.70 - £7.60 English Heritage member , family and children discount tickets are also available. More information: www.english-heritage.org.uk/events Local Population Studies & the Local Population Studies Society Annual Conference: "Ageing and the Aged in Pre-modern and Modern Britain" Saturday 16th April 9.30 to 5 pm Venue: The Law Faculty, University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield Road, St Albans Cost: £25 inclusive of all refreshments Contact: LPS Dept of Humanities, University of Hertfordshire, College Lane, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB by March 31st 2005 Tel: 01707 285 688 or 285 637 email: lps@hets.ac.uk University of Leicester Department of English Victorian Studies centre An International Conference "Henry Irving - A life in the Victorian Theatre" Date: 8-10 July 2005 Full residential fee: £130 Non-residential rate on request Address as above; Conference Director tel: 0116 252 2642 Bookings tel: 0116 252 2623 or imj4@leicester.ac.uk Fax: 0116252 2065 Email: vicstud@leicester.ac.uk Website: www.le.ac.uk/ee/irving Please do not contact the Society for further details but use the contact details given.

In addition to what I wrote, below, I've found out the problems also arise when a slash is in the subject line, so please try to omit those, too. Thanks! Lynne > Dear Listers, > > I've been informed that some e-mail programs do not properly display > subject lines in Digest messages if a colon is within the subject > line. Please help Digest subscribers by omitting colons from your > subject lines, substituting a dash, hyphen, or another character > instead. > > Thanks! > > Best wishes, > Lynne > List Admin.

Dear Listers, I've been informed that some e-mail programs do not properly display subject lines in Digest messages if a colon is within the subject line. :-( Please help Digest subscribers by omitting colons from your subject lines, substituting a dash, hyphen, or another character instead. Thanks! Best wishes, Lynne List Admin.

A free download from the Lancashire Family History and Heraldry Society that most family researchers would find useful as they put their family history into perspective: a list of famous dates in history. See http://www.lfhhs.org.uk/download/index.htm Best wishes, Lynne