Olive, There used to be a shop near Peel Brow School that sold liquorice root. You could chew it for ages. And the black stuff we called "spanish". And kayliy - know what you mean but probably have never seen it written till now. Used to love it. Seem to remember you could sometimes get hollow spanish tubes and suck up the kayliy with it. David >Pauline >Do you mean the liquorish root, re the woody one you mention? >Not quite sure how to spell it, but boy do I fancy some of that. Which >proves that someone must still be producing these things, tiger nuts etc. >One ounce of cherry lips etc, you got such a lot for your small amount of >pennies in those little triangular bags. >Sherbert dips etc. Kayliy, now how do you spell that? I guess we could go >on for ages on this. >Sarsaparillo on line, wow! >Olive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== LANCSLIFE Mailing List ==== >To change from List to Digest mode (or vice versa) or from one e-mail >address to another, unsubscribe then resubscribe. See >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/LANCSLIFE.html > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005

>Hi Pamela, Yes that would be it. When I lived there the railway was still going strong and a full scale level crossing you couldn't miss and a signal box. But now the railway is scaled down it's probably less obvious. The river used to be full of scum and chemicals when we used to play along its banks nearer to Nuttall Park and built dams in the streams feeding into it near where the old chemical works (long gone) used to be. The river's a lot cleaner too. David. >Hi David >I am from Leigh but my friend, also Pamela, is fom Stubbins and she took >me to visit Ramsbottom about a month ago. All I know is that we parked - >crossed a river - walked towards the town centre and the Temperance bar >was on a corner on the right hand side. We went inside , it is very small >but there were definitely pots with taps ,various herbal drinks , and >remedies and a very small seating area, everywhere was dark wood, In the >window were several old tins and packets which I remember from >childhood.It was great >Pamela -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005

Hi Dennis, Perhaps I should learn to spell before I post any more about this drink. Talking of Fitzpatrick's in Rawtenstall there was a big write up about in the paper about 3 years ago - said it was the last temperance bar in England. And it had a photo of the owners. Just checked and the big pot of sarsaparilla is clearly visible on the shelf behind them. Hope the weather improves for your visit! David >David > >There appear to be two other sources of Sarsaparilla in Lanc's, >Fitzpatrick's Herbal Health in Rawtenstall and Blackburn Market. >Unfortunately I can't visit any of them to get a sample before my visit to >Inverness next month. > >RecumbentDennis in Chester UK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005

Miles, What amazes me when I go the same way to Preston is that the shop does not look different. I think the name is Evans. What on earth is curly aniseed rock, only ever had the long sticks. Last time I went on a trip to Wigan Pier there were lots of these tins of Uncle Joe`s Mint Balls. These do taste the same as they used to do. Another memory is reading a story, I think it was Her Benny by Silas Hocking. On a trip to Liverpool Dock Museum there were loads of copies of this for sale. I remember reading this when I was a little girl and it made me cry. I guess I should read it again, maybe it was set in Liverpool. Olive

On 26/5/05 10:16 am olive said: > I think the Pablo sign is still there, Station Road and Promenade as you > say. It is no good, I shall have to have a drive around now and look this > up. > We used to stop at a chip shop on the outskirts of Preston. This is still > there, which amazes me after all these years. We used to stop for fish & chips in Preston on the way back to Wigan from Blackpool. I wonder if it was the same one. Proper fish & chips wrapped up in newspaper - none of these polystyrene trays that you get nowadays! One of my favourite sweets from those days were Uncle Joe's Mint Balls. They are still being made in the same Santus factory round the back of Wigan Parish Church - but today they are individually wrapped. In those days they just came out of the big jar in the shop into a little triangular paper bag where they all stuck to each other if you didn't eat them fast enough. (That's my story and I'm sticking to it!) But they still seem to taste the same as I remember. Curly aniseed rock was another favourite. But I haven't seen that for years. Miles

I think the Pablo sign is still there, Station Road and Promenade as you say. It is no good, I shall have to have a drive around now and look this up. We used to stop at a chip shop on the outskirts of Preston. This is still there, which amazes me after all these years. I know the ice cream shop in Poulton uses the brown cornets, so I guess an ice cream is called for. Olive

I am looking for the date of Death and Place for John Hodgkinson, Jr. He was born 15 Feb 1650/51 in Preston, Lancashire, England. Thanks, Alan D. Hoskinson Kentucky, United States

Pablo's was there before the war too. My dad tells me that he went there when he was sent to his uncle's in the summer holidays from school ! Good Luck: Antony Lambert; the Certificate Man. Certificates in 5 Days see: www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/certificates.htm or e-mail antonylambert@certificates.fsnet.co.uk http://www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/ninth%20field.htm

Maureen wrote: > Ah!!! Sarsaparilla, Yum. <snip> Seem to remember too that it was > banned by the 'powers that be' a few years ago as it contained some > drug (i.e. if you had 500 gallons of the stuff it could affect you). > They must have got around this now. Even the Sarsaparilla tablets > disappeared for a while. Interesting that, as I am reading this, I am listening to the morning news report in the background and they just had a story about how a student has found that Sarsaparilla (or an extract from it?) restricts the growth of cancer cells. Seems our ancestors had a better grasp of things than the more recent powers that be. Katie Brampton, Ontario

Dennis Just looked at the list of suppliers and there are loads around not far from where I live. Thanks a lot, must give this a go. Olive

Hi me again I wonder if it was Rawtenstall then - as we did visit both places Pamela -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 25/05/2005

Hi David I am from Leigh but my friend, also Pamela, is fom Stubbins and she took me to visit Ramsbottom about a month ago. All I know is that we parked - crossed a river - walked towards the town centre and the Temperance bar was on a corner on the right hand side. We went inside , it is very small but there were definitely pots with taps ,various herbal drinks , and remedies and a very small seating area, everywhere was dark wood, In the window were several old tins and packets which I remember from childhood.It was great Pamela -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 25/05/2005

Pauline Do you mean the liquorish root, re the woody one you mention? Not quite sure how to spell it, but boy do I fancy some of that. Which proves that someone must still be producing these things, tiger nuts etc. One ounce of cherry lips etc, you got such a lot for your small amount of pennies in those little triangular bags. Sherbert dips etc. Kayliy, now how do you spell that? I guess we could go on for ages on this. Sarsaparillo on line, wow! Olive

Honestly, all this pop and ice cream! It is amazing how we can go on and on about something. It only needs one person to nudge the memory. There are so many tasty things gone now. Still lots of candy floss and rock here in Blackpool. I remember the stone hot water bottles, that cost a fortune now. You had to wrap a towel around them so as not to burn yourself. This list is great for just rambling on about nostalgia. What next? Olive

Ah!!! Sarsaparilla, Yum. I remember as a child the pop man delivering it in those big stone jars. The last time I spotted any was in the Lake District a couple of years ago and I bought a bottle of the cordial which was made by Mawson`s of Oldham. I also bought some from Blackburn Market many years ago. Seem to remember too that it was banned by the 'powers that be' a few years ago as it contained some drug (i.e. if you had 500 gallons of the stuff it could affect you). They must have got around this now. Even the Sarsaparilla tablets disappeared for a while. I really must get to Rawtenstall and get a 'fix'. Maureen

Hi Ian Have got news for you I worked on the bottom block or to give it 's proper name the Mental health Unit I was a mature student nurse and when I passed my RMN my sons delighted in telling everyone that their mum was mental and had got a certificate to prove it. You can still buy Sasparilla and Dandelion and Burdock the proper stuff not the supermarkets versions at Mawsons herb shop at the bottom of George St Oldham Olive I remmember drinking nettle beer at that funny litlle house near Heysham Head.My dad said it would do my blood good . Bren >-- Original Message -H >From: "Ian Winterbottom" <i.winterbottom@ntlworld.com> >Subject: Re: [LANCSLIFE] Cornets and Royton >Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:59:20 +0100 >To: LANCSLIFE-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: LANCSLIFE-L@rootsweb.com > > >Coo, Bren, you posh person you. I just missed Chaddy Gram, a mate of mine, > >John Regan, went there though. I was a Bulge baby if you remember that (All > >the Dads demobbed at the end of the War caused a minor population explosion > >that followed our generation up thro' School) and Grammar School places > >were desperately short, so as a "Borderline" case I ended up at "Central", > >Shaw and Royton amalgamated while I was there. Must admit I hated it there, > >I was badly bullied and it is still with me now! Liked the School itself > >though, and still love Royton. We used to wear uniform, mostly just the cap > >and then only till someone nicked it and chucked it on the roof. Or the tie > >if someone didn't try to strangle you with it! I can only just remember >Tandlehills, it must be a good fifty years back! My Mum took us there a few > >times, I remember really loving it; but living in Shaw as we did it was >almost impossible to get to, I remember the monument though. And the >sweetshop; Turf Lane is just next to Shaw Road End, Nan & Grandad used to > >buy us Dolly Mixtures and ice creams from there. I used to visit the Park > >too with Nan for the Leonard Cheshire fetes. My Mum and Dad were married >in >St Anne's Church just across the road. I've bobbed in and out of Boundary > >Park a time or two as well, only as a visitor thank Gawd! A mate of mine >was >once in the infamous "Bottom Block" for a time and we used to sneak off for > >a jar in the Mare and Foal over the road! (I've had some funny mates now >and >then!). I must keep an eye out for the Granelli's however, see if it still > >tasts the same. Tarra, Ian > > >==== LANCSLIFE Mailing List ==== >Lanky Life -- dialect, slang, and sayings; culture and traditions; history >of towns and villages; folklore; poetry and songs; recipes; and nostalgic >essays. > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/

David There appear to be two other sources of Sarsaparilla in Lanc's, Fitzpatrick's Herbal Health in Rawtenstall and Blackburn Market. Unfortunately I can't visit any of them to get a sample before my visit to Inverness next month. RecumbentDennis in Chester UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Greenhalgh" <davghalgh@lineone.net> To: <LANCSLIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [LANCSLIFE] Ice Cream and pop! > Hello Pamela, > I'm butting in here after not paying too much attention to this thread. I > remember a Temperance Bar in Ramsbottom (in the 1950s) right next to the > level crossing. Is that the one you're thinking of? Had these pots of > herbal drinks with a tap which they poured into a small cup. And the two > drinks you mention still strike a chord. But Saspirella I haven't found in > ages. > > David > exiled in Inverness > >

Hello Pamela, I'm butting in here after not paying too much attention to this thread. I remember a Temperance Bar in Ramsbottom (in the 1950s) right next to the level crossing. Is that the one you're thinking of? Had these pots of herbal drinks with a tap which they poured into a small cup. And the two drinks you mention still strike a chord. But Saspirella I haven't found in ages. David exiled in Inverness >Hi Ian >Do you mean Temperance bars? There is one still open in Ramsbottom still >got Sarsasparilla and Dandelion and Burdock !Amazing place. >Pamela -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005

Dennis, with me it was candy floss and Blackpool rock.They said I had a weak stomach, but everyone got a bit! To this day I can't stand rock.Same here with the working Mum, ninety per cent of my generation's Mums were in the Cotton mills watching a frame. Mine did mornings in a shop, so there was usually at least one of my mates getting stuck into her corned beef hash. Mind you that was when I first started work, must have been around 18. Used to bring my mate home from the Mill! He tipped up five bob a week, not to be sneezed at in 1965. Especially for 'tater pie of my Mum's standard! Ian

That's the ones, Pam! I was trying to remember what they called them, the one in Oldham anyway! Blimey, an excuse to emigrate to Ramsbottom. You very rarely see the Herbal cordials themselves for sale nowadays, let alone see them offered in cafes etc. Even if you do, it is likely to be fizzy pop, Ben Shaws or the like. Having said which you never see that brand any more either! I have seen cans of Dandock in upmarket stores. Yes, I'm a secret Lemonade drinker....! Beat Sunny D hands down for my money. Coltsfoot rock, anybody? My mate in Germany is forever agitating for me to get hold of him some Tiger Nuts, anyone remember those? Even Health Food shops don't sell them now. Kids today miss out on lots of fun! If I could find the damn things he might do me a swap for a pound or so of the excellent German "Sauers", which are gorgeously fruity and covered in citric acid crystals so you go cross-eyed when you suck 'em! Got the taste for those in the Army! Ian