> Put wood in t`hole And "Put door on't' latch", lock the "snip" back so I don't get locked out! > A jump at t`door and a bite at t`latch - another one for what`s for tea "Iffit an' sniffit" or "Three runs at cupboard door." > Queen Anne front and Mary Ann back (house good at front, not so good at > rear) "Tha's geet more front nor Blackpool!" - You have a cheek! > Corporation Pop and Adams Ale, said that on Sunday to my son, what was > that, said he. Water said I. > My Grandma was full of these sayings. Been doin' that sin' Adam were a lad! So were my grandparents! Ian

Thought of that one but I was trying to be a gentleman! How about "No better nor she should be!" Ian > what about "fur coat no knickers!"

I know it all right, have heard it too, but the only place I have seen it in years was on a commemorative mug that was a souvenir of YORKSHIRE! They pinch all sorts tha' knows, on t'other side o't' Pennines! Ian

Yeah Bren, it's Party food nowadays! Clubs and pubs often do Tater Pie suppers, especially round Owdam. I come from Shaw myself, now in Bolton for my sins but still feels like I am coming home when I get to Shaw, even though I haven't lived there since the 70s. Went to Shaw for my Mum's 70th Birthday a few months back, and the Catering people put on a Tater Pie and Red Cabbage - superbe, mon ami! I even used to have one of those big brown dishes, but it got bust during a move in the Army - the MFO people are a bit cack-handed! Anyone remember those big earthenware bottles the "Pop" man used to do, made in the same material, ie Earthenware? We used to use them as hot water bottles when I was little, pre-Central Heating! My wife likes her beetroot; me, I'll stick to my red cabbage! And I am getting hungry again - this is going to do wonders for my waistline! Ian

Here's another one: "Art bound whom? Margaret

How about Kate and Sidney pud? Anyone remember the homemade ones done in a cloth? With suet about an inch thick? Used to be a time you could even get 'em in the "chippy", but nowadays it's Holland's (not to be sneezed at!) or even frozen ones. My son is due over from Germany next month and I'll give you odds the first place he heads for is the Chippy for his Puddin' and Chips with Gravy! Should be a laugh this time as he is bringing the grandsons with him, their first exposure to English food. Hope they like it as much as I did German grub! Ian

on 9/11/05 10:59 AM, olive at olive.cookson@btinternet.com wrote: > Am really enjoying this. > Kate and Sidney, now that rings a bell, still do not like the Sidney bit. > Making a list for my family as they will probably have not heard of half the > expressions that we can remember, or the food. > Never heard of tin lally butties, but have heard of condensed milk butties. > Pants - keks, yes but I thought strikes came from Australia. > What is shaky milk, milk shake? > We used to say bobees for going to sleep > Narnie Sarnie - I give up on this one. > Champ and Colcannon - give up on this one too. > Jammie Dodgers and Wagon Wheels are still going. > Little Hovis loaves - the tins came in a strip of maybe 4 or 6 and when the > break was baked the > name was on the side of the little loaves. > lither - leather > wortch, bepowlert an' pown ???? > pobbies - warm milk and pieces of bread and a bit of sugar. > e'en, > neb - neb cap, or peaked cap > Preston pies - potato pies without meat. > Raw onion peeled and then sliced into thin slices and split up and then put > into dish of malt vinegar with a dash of sugar. > With so many words to use it does make you wonder why people are so stuck on > the one swear word today. > Olive Hi Olive. I remember my grandfather having "POBS" for breakfast- He had a baker's shop, and every evening he would butter some leftover crusts, add sugar and soak them in milk overnight. Next morning he heated them and had them for breakfast. It took me years before I sorted out what POBS meant--of course-"pieces of bread soaked " They are good too! Margaret

I remember that big black range, I must have been really tiny as we moved from Nan's, in Royton, to Shaw, when I was four, I think. Nan used to polish the thing for ages. I have seen one in a Musuem though and coo, it didn't half take me back. They weren't as big as I remembered, but then I'm a lot bigger now than I was then! I seem to remember my Great-Nanna as a really tall lady, but Mum says she was tiny, probably the same effect! Nan used to do pea soup too, and butter beans - I still love them! Another favourite of hers was Cowheel, which then and now makes me feel ill! As for tripe! Like the old joke about the vicar refusing a tongue sandwich as "he can't eat anything that's been in summat's mouth" - so the lady of the house offers him a hardboiled egg instead....! Think about it...! Sorry! Ian

Unrepentant, I make me own Chili! Or curry! I like "make it up as you go along" cookery of the "tater pie" school, my wife is disabled so I do much of the cooking in our house. (There's a joint in the oven now!) Luckily we both like things like corned beef hash and sausages, casseroles and things - you can shove 'em in the oven and let them cook while yer on here! Or is that cheating?! Ian

Hi Bren Some I haven't heard but here goes: arto - have you bee boes - bed club- pregnant degg - water esshole - fireplace mard - soft ponful - panful sauce - beer No idea what fast.gam, keep, mendin and sugar are. Dad always used to say, when I'm dead, have me stuffed and put in the esshole for the kids to play with. Best wishes, Pauline in Darwen

bee boes is going to sleep ess hole was the part of the fireplace where the ashes fell Mard - soft ponful - was a pan full sauce - cheek arto - ought to that is what comes to my mind Eileen

Glad to hear that some things are still there. My wife is also from St.Helens and remembers Pimmies pies very well, weren't they sometimes oval and a bit posh? How about Skellands who used to be at The Lingholme, he and I were in the RAF together? I was prompted to send another message saying that if you keep talking about these recipes, you're going to have to open a shop yourself. My wife is dying to come on and talk about Scouse too. Brian On 10 Sep 2005, at 18:01, Littlmum@aol.com wrote: > you either got the cane or a whack around the earholes for eating in > the > streets, simply not done. > > Remember ~Robert's very well, and what about Whittles, and Pimmies, > been to > Pimmies today. Not very long ago some Pimblets pies went out to by > brother > in law in a diplomatic bag. he was craving for them. along with > parsnips > and a thick sliced Warburtons loaf. > > Walked past Burchalls pie shop today as well. > > > Eileen > > > ==== LANCSLIFE Mailing List ==== > Lanky Life -- dialect, slang, and sayings; culture and traditions; > history of towns and villages; folklore; poetry and songs; recipes; > and nostalgic essays. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

I still have Black peas, lovely with vinegar in. Having Tattie pie and mushy peas for tea with red cabbage and home-made picked onions. I have about 5 different sizes of earthern ware dishes, on with a lid. I also have a very large mixing bowl which I use for tattie pie when a lot folk are coming. I gave my daughter in-law an earthern ware dish with a lid for her to make casseroles in, she loves it. Pauline in Darwen

HI Ian That's what I thought. My grandfather used it occasionally, but was death against using God's name in swearing. So, I guess this was a substitute. Thanks! Best regards, Ron Lord

we have all of those still in this house except the black peas. Eileen

The weather's decidedly grizzly and cool today and all this food set me off thinking about other oldfashioned comfort foods. Forgive me if they are a bit mixed up and if some of my Dad's Irish and My Mum's Belgian foods may have crept it: * Steak and Kidney pie or pud * Rice Pudding * Finny 'Addock (smoked haddock) * Fish and Chips and Specials * Black Peas at the fairground * Oatcakes and crumpets * Oven Bottom Muffins * Cheesebake (mashed spuds with cheese and onion) served with crispy bacon and tomatoes * Bubble and Squeak * My Dad's Champ and Colcannon * Sausage and Mash and Onion Gravy * Cheese and Onion Pie * Mince Meat and Potato Stew (pie without the crust), which my husband rather unkindly called 'splodge'. * Pea soup with Bacon Ribs * Bread and Butter Pudding * Apple Pie * Rhubarb Crumble * Treacle Tart * Lemon Meringue Pie * And endless cakes, puddings, bicuits and buns Not many vegetables seemed to make it onto the menu :( This was sample of 1950's Lancashire Staples, that I learned to make, but that my son and daughter might still need me to show them. I'm starving now, must go and make lunch. GAY Gay J Oliver, Stalybridge, Cheshire www.members.aol.com/victoroly/genealogy.htm www.members.aol.com/gayjoliver/Tameside.htm _www.fhsc.org.uk/fhsc/dukinfield.htm_ (http://www.fhsc.org.uk/fhsc/dukinfield.htm) _www.tamesidehistoryforum.org.uk_ (http://www.tamesidehistoryforum.org.uk/)

or even Snake and Pygmy pudding. - regularly have steak and kidney puddings. love them delicious. with diced carrot and turnip and spuds. Eileen

Steak and kidney pie- My father used to call it Kate and Sydney. Here is another of my grandma's sayings: "Never trouble trouble Unless it troubles you It only doubles trouble, And troubles others too." I think it means don't gossip about your neighbours or friends and their troubles. Margaret

Skellands was on the corner opposite the Lingholme Pub, I lived not far from there. Scouse was done in pan on the top of the cooker or hob. anything they had went into it. Comes from Lobckaus and Danish dish I believe brought to Liverpool area by the sailors. Eileen

O.K. not technically Lancashire but the following link used to be called Tony the Pit Pony. http://www.barnsleylife.com/ click on "Local Sayings" on the top bar going across. Then make sure volume is on when clicking on each saying - Not a million miles away from our Lancashire dialect. Regards, Maureen