I have really enjoyed reading all the responses about DNA testing. Last night I drove over to the Catholic cemetery and visited my newly found via DNA testing great great grandparents James and Catherine Crane Manning....all on my fathers Mennonite roots side. Now I can laugh even more how older relatives on that side of my family were a bit scornful when I married into a Catholic family (I had sort of thought it safer to mix up the DNA a bit- not gonna lie!)  I would suppose you might say in my small town the Catholics and Mennonites did not look so favorably on mixed marriages! Although my mothers English-Scots- Irish lines are in me this was a huge surprise! It has brought me new lines to research and for a genealogy lover it was a gift!! I have tested another line which we had a road block on- I did a male cousin who carried that surname with a test through FamilyTree DNA for a Y67 marker test- all males in a line apparently keep that marker. We found a few others, found some with different surnames who had been neighbors- so guess they had relations with our line? I think a 37 marker match is another test, maybe less expensive? On 8/3/2018 3:23 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Something I have brought up several times > > There are far more important issues to worry about with dna research > than the police finding a perpetrator of a crime who frankly deserve > to be caught > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 03/08/2018 20:26, Sharee Hughes wrote: >> Unless you're a criminal and don't want the police to track you through >> your DNA, what's the problem? >> >> Sharee > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator  at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/lancsgen > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community >

You have keep working at it and check regularly. I noticed a new match in Ancestry DNA just over a week ago. Showing as Third Cousin but nothing in the tree that I recognise, they are in USA and do not seem to have traced back far. But looking at Shared Matches suggests they are connected through my Welsh Evans line. Usual problem with Ancestry, I have sent a message but no reply even though they are showing as having been on Ancestry several times since then. I keep wondering whether many people do not understand the Ancestry messaging system and do not realise there is a message for them. I have tried several times adding a "Note" to their DNA page as more likely to see that. Ancestry posted this though nothing very original there. https://support.ancestry.co.uk/s/article/DNA-Match-Relationships?o_xid=64493&sf90971468=1 Martin Briscoe Fort William Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507) -----Original Message----- From: koolbean1234 [mailto:koolbean1234@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 9:26 AM To: martin@mbriscoe.me.uk; lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: Genealogy Advancement Through DNA Test Results I got my DNA results recently but had mostly 3rd/4th/5th cousins connect. I contacted a few but they have all said not able to match to any of the surnames I gave them. Quite disappointed really - very few in the UK seem to have done their DNA Dot

Hi Tom, You've done some great research there. I hope you make good progress. in my family, we've had problems finding the origins of my paternal great grandfather, Robert Ernest Rowley, supposedly born and raised in Manchester from about 1852. He arrived in Melbourne Australia in about 1885. My father did a Y111 DNA test and the results are challenging to say the least. It looks like Robert was a lot more Irish than English, and the Rowley name does not pop up in the right places. It looks like the family name changed at one point. Perhaps my ancestor was adopted, or changed his name to elude others looking for him. The investigation continues. I intend to do the same DNA test soon, which may help the cause, and do another for my mother's side to look at her interesting collection of Scots ancestors. Regards, Colin, Melbourne, Australia On 3 August 2018 at 08:21, T. Wood via LANCSGEN <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Noticing some activity on the list, I thought it may be a good time to > post my recent family history progress. > > As a brief summary, I have been trying to determine the identity of my > grandfather’s father for over 30 years. It was this endeavor that got me > started in genealogy but over all of those years, I was not able to find > anything that would lead me to the answer. So, with all of the excitement > regarding DNA testing, I figured I had nothing to lose by going down this > path to see where it may lead. > > I got my results and initial set of matches in late March, and took a week > or so sending messages to people with the expectation that they would all > respond. Some did, but a large portion of my messages went unanswered. > > I was able to figure out most of the few matches that were categorized as > 2nd or 3rd cousins so I moved on to the fourth cousin category to see what > I could come up with. The fourth match in this category had very little > identifying information that would give me a clue as to who she was or how > she may have been related, except for two things. First was her user name > which was in the form of firstname-secondname-number. Considering that my > user name is ttwood49, I took a guess that the number in her user name was > her year of birth. Second she had two family trees listed with not much to > them except for the two surnames in their titles, one of which was the same > as the second name in her user name. > > Without going into great detail, using FreeBMD, LancashireBMD and Lan-OPC, > I took this information, and in a relatively short period of time found a > name that was quite familiar to me. I knew from the time I got a set of > 1881 census discs from the LDS in the 1990's that there were three young > lads of 20 (the same age as my great grandmother) living either next door > to her or as a boarder in her father’s house. From that point, I always > speculated as to whether one of these could be my great grandfather. The > Critchley family, the same surname that I instantly recognized when doing > my investigation lived next to my Wood family from before the time of the > 1851 census into the 1890’s. > > Knowing that to this point this could all be circumstantial or wishful > thinking, I proceeded to try to make contact with my Ancestry match. After > several attempts over a period of two months and getting to the point of > begging, I had a response. My match confirmed that, yes, one of the son’s > of the family that I traced back was her great grandfather. > > I am quite confident that my great grandfather came from this Critchley > family. The question to still be answered is whether the exact individual > can be determined. It is highly likely it was one of the three Critchley > sons, but there is the possibility that the match came from their mother's > side of the family whose maiden name was Speakman. > > Of the three sons, the most likely candidate would have been Edward who > was the same age as my great grandmother. He died of TB less than two years > after the birth of my grandfather and was never married and I am assuming > that he had no other offspring. Another son was Thomas who was 8 years > older than my great grandmother and never married. At this point I have no > way of knowing if he fathered any children. > > That leaves Robert, the great grandfather of my match. He was a few months > away from his 16th birthday when my great grandmother became pregnant and > is most likely not my great grandfather. In 1911 he was married with 5 > children living on Violet St. in Ashton in Makerfield, the same town where > he was born. His sons were Robert age 19, William age 15 and Percy age 10 > and the two girls were Mary Ann age 18 and Alice Ann age 6. > > I know that William married Angelina Smith in 1919 and Mary Ann may have > married Oswald Topping in 1914. I believe Alice Ann died in 1918 at age 14 > and Robert died in 1928 age 37. I am not certain of what happened to Percy. > He may have died in Newton le Willows in 1959, but I do not know for > certain. > > My objective now is to try to make contact with any living descendants of > Robert’s family for the purpose of trying to get more evidence that may > lead to the precise identity of my great grandfather. So if anyone may > recognize this Critchley family I would be appreciative of any assistance I > could get in locating any living descendants. > Thanks for reading, > Tom > > > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/lancsgen > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >