In 1927 my father records cycling frequently from Accrington to Browns and Copster. He was active in the NCTC and BCTC (possibly little Harworth Wheelers) Does anyone have an idea what was at these places? He also watched road races and later went on CTC camping weekends. Some of the CTC rides were midnight tours of over 100 miles Grateful for any help with sources for CTC archives or local knowledge Robin

Hi Robin My great grandfather was one of the founders of a cycling club in East Retford Notts circa 1880, he was in various races and organised many events, he was also the timekeeper for a great many of them He appears in the newspapers at various times as a competitor or as an official So I would check the online newspapers for the clubs your father was in and I suspect you will find mention of the events and locations In 1896 my g.grandfather won a gold medal in a veterans race for completing 100 miles within 12 hours, he was 48 at the time Cycling was a huge participant and professional sport back in the day Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 17/07/2018 18:32, robin@scottishwool.com wrote: > In 1927 my father records cycling frequently from Accrington to Browns and Copster. > He was active in the NCTC and BCTC (possibly little Harworth Wheelers) > > Does anyone have an idea what was at these places? > > He also watched road races and later went on CTC camping weekends. > > Some of the CTC rides were midnight tours of over 100 miles > > Grateful for any help with sources for CTC archives or local knowledge > > > Robin

Hi Robin, I know nothing about the cycling query I'm afraid -- but Copster may refer to Copster Green - a small rural village between Blackburn and Ribchester. It was a place people would go to on a Sunday for a wander round. There is a Brown Leaves Hotel nearby - maybe named after the 'Browns' bit!! There is a website called Accyweb -- and a history section on that site - if no-one can help you on here, it may be worth registering and raising your query on that Forum. Regards June From: "robin@scottishwool.com" <robin@scottishwool.com> To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018, 18:33 Subject: [LAN] Browns and Copster 1927 In 1927 my father records cycling frequently from Accrington to Browns and Copster. He was active in the NCTC and BCTC  (possibly little Harworth Wheelers) Does anyone have an idea what was at these places? He also watched road races and later went on CTC camping weekends. Some of the CTC rides were midnight tours of over 100 miles Grateful for any help with sources for CTC archives or local knowledge Robin _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information.  http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator  at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/lancsgen Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks June Already posted on Accyweb and you are right about the popularity of Copster Green. I’ve found the answer. Mrs Brown was in Sycamore Cottage in Copster Green. Clue came from an old article in the CPC Record about the origins of the Northern Cavern and Fell Club founded in November 1927 at Copster. I’ve also found a photo of a cyclist Wilf Banks outside Mrs Browns which has enabled me to cross check with modern photos (it was sold recently). Thanks Robin -----Original Message----- From: June Dowling via LANCSGEN <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: June Dowling <june.dowling@yahoo.co.uk>, <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 at 18:57 To: "lancsgen@rootsweb.com" <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Cc: June Dowling <june.dowling@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [LAN] Re: Browns and Copster 1927 I know nothing about the cycling query I'm afraid -- but Copster may refer to Copster Green - a small rural village between Blackburn and Ribchester. It was a place people would go to on a Sunday for a wander round. There is a Brown Leaves Hotel nearby - maybe named after the 'Browns' bit!! There is a website called Accyweb -- and a history section on that site - if no-one can help you on here, it may be worth registering and raising your query on that Forum.

Oh well done Robin -- I am SO pleased that you have furthered your research. Regards June From: "robin@scottishwool.com" <robin@scottishwool.com> To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 23 July 2018, 12:54 Subject: [LAN] Re: Browns and Copster 1927 Thanks June Already posted on Accyweb and you are right about the popularity of Copster Green. I’ve found the answer. Mrs Brown was in Sycamore Cottage  in Copster Green. Clue came from an old article in the CPC Record about the origins of the Northern Cavern and Fell Club founded in November 1927 at Copster. I’ve also found a photo of a cyclist Wilf Banks outside Mrs Browns which has enabled me to cross check with modern photos (it was sold recently). Thanks Robin

Close to Copster Green on the Ribchester road there was a Pub - later became Margaret Grimshaw's Lodestar night spot.   I recall in the 1960's before a lot of modernisation took place there was a painted sign on the side for the CTC. -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk On 23/07/2018 12:53, robin@scottishwool.com wrote: > Thanks June > > Already posted on Accyweb and you are right about the popularity of Copster Green. > > I’ve found the answer. > > Mrs Brown was in Sycamore Cottage in Copster Green. > > Clue came from an old article in the CPC Record about the origins of the Northern Cavern and Fell Club founded in November 1927 at Copster. > > I’ve also found a photo of a cyclist Wilf Banks outside Mrs Browns which has enabled me to cross check with modern photos (it was sold recently). > > Thanks > Robin > >

Don't know if significant but this mentions going to Copster Green and Mrs Brown's in Malham the following weekend. From the British Newspaper Archive Todmorden Advertiser and Hebden Bridge Newsletter - Friday 20 January 1933 TODMORDEN CYCLING CLUB. In spite of the wretched weather condi- tions which prevailed last. Sunday, several hardy members of the local club proceeded outward via Gretna, Padiham and Whalley to Copster Green where a halt was made for lunch. In the afternoon they cycled through Wilpshire, York, Huncoat to Barleytop Farm, Hapton, for tea. After a pleasant stay the return journey was made by way of Rosegrove, Gretna and Cliviger. Last Tuesday evening the club held its annual general meeting, Mr. A. Horsfield presiding over a fair attendance of enthusiastic members. The secretary, Mr. W. Robertshaw, in his review of the year's activities, revealed a satisfactory state of affairs.. On the motion of the Chairman, the retiring officers were heartily thanked for their services. The election of officers for the ensuing year were as follows: Mr. J. Darrell was unanimously appointed President, and the position of hon. secretary and hon. treasurer were again placed in the capable hands of Mr. W. and Mr. H. Ingham respectively; other officials were: Captain, Mr. H. Hollinrake; vice-captains, Messrs. H. Nesbitt and H. Booth; hon. collector. Mr. R. Sunderland; auditors, Messrs. B. Cooper and A. Jones; committee: Mrs. W. Barker. Messrs. W. Barker, A. Horsfield, W. Rarnshaw, J. Lord, F. Jones, J. H. King. H. Freer, J. Clarke. A sub-committee was also appointed to arrange the club fixtures. Next Sunday's run is to Malham (Mrs. Brown's), Martin Briscoe Fort William Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507) -----Original Message----- From: Robin McEwen-King [mailto:shetlandsheep@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of robin@scottishwool.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:32 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Browns and Copster 1927 In 1927 my father records cycling frequently from Accrington to Browns and Copster. He was active in the NCTC and BCTC (possibly little Harworth Wheelers) Does anyone have an idea what was at these places? He also watched road races and later went on CTC camping weekends. Some of the CTC rides were midnight tours of over 100 miles Grateful for any help with sources for CTC archives or local knowledge Robin

Thanks Martin That’s interesting I’ll check Dad’s diary as some of these rides were joint affairs. Seem to remember the Dad noted in his diary that Mrs Browns changed hands. Suspect it was before 1933 So highly likely that her CTC customers were happy to find her at Malham Robin -----Original Message----- From: "Martin Briscoe (W10 laptop)" <list@mbriscoe.me.uk> Reply-To: <martin@mbriscoe.me.uk>, <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, 23 July 2018 at 14:10 To: <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LAN] Re: Browns and Copster 1927 Don't know if significant but this mentions going to Copster Green and Mrs Brown's in Malham the following weekend. From the British Newspaper Archive Todmorden Advertiser and Hebden Bridge Newsletter - Friday 20 January 1933