Greetings, In the 1841 census (HO107/519/1 f 36b p 31), living at Summers Cottage, Walton on the Hill, Bootle cum Linacre, West Derby, Lancashire are James (30) and Miriam (20) LINNEMAN, both Foreign born, with three servants, Margaret HENDRIE, 60, F(emale) S(ervant), born in Scotland, Mary Ann WHEELER, 15, F S, not born in Lancashire, and William MOULSDALE, 15, M S, born in county. This baptism appears on the lan-opc site: Baptism: 3 Apr 1825 All Saints, Newton Heath, Lancashire, England William Moulsdale - Son of William Moulsdale & Anne Abode: Medlock Vale Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: T. Gaskell Register: Baptisms 1823 - 1831, Page 40, Entry 315 Source: LDS Family Search This marriage appears on the lan-opc site: Marriage: 13 Nov 1815 St Michael and All Angels, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England William Mossdale - this Parish Ann Lord - (X), this Parish Witness: James Moss; John Bowker Married by Banns by: John Hutchinson Rector Register: Marriages 1813 - 1821, Page 124, Entry 372 Source: LDS Film 559172 hth David

Hi David Many thanks indeed for this full information. As you identify, his parents may be William Mossdale (Moulsdale) and wife Ann. As they were married in Ashton-under-Lyne so may have still been living in that area in 1841 and 1851. If you have easy access to these censuses may I please ask for a search of each for the family? Regard Barry in Lancashire -----Original Message----- From: David Wightmore [mailto:dvdwmore@telus.net] Sent: 25 November 2013 6:57 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] MOULSDALE - 1841 Census Greetings, In the 1841 census (HO107/519/1 f 36b p 31), living at Summers Cottage, Walton on the Hill, Bootle cum Linacre, West Derby, Lancashire are James (30) and Miriam (20) LINNEMAN, both Foreign born, with three servants, Margaret HENDRIE, 60, F(emale) S(ervant), born in Scotland, Mary Ann WHEELER, 15, F S, not born in Lancashire, and William MOULSDALE, 15, M S, born in county. This baptism appears on the lan-opc site: Baptism: 3 Apr 1825 All Saints, Newton Heath, Lancashire, England William Moulsdale - Son of William Moulsdale & Anne Abode: Medlock Vale Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: T. Gaskell Register: Baptisms 1823 - 1831, Page 40, Entry 315 Source: LDS Family Search This marriage appears on the lan-opc site: Marriage: 13 Nov 1815 St Michael and All Angels, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England William Mossdale - this Parish Ann Lord - (X), this Parish Witness: James Moss; John Bowker Married by Banns by: John Hutchinson Rector Register: Marriages 1813 - 1821, Page 124, Entry 372 Source: LDS Film 559172 hth David

Hi Barry, I couldn't find William and Ann in the 1841, but in 1851 (HO107/2234 f 16 p 25), living at Fire Fold, Droylsden, there is a William MASDALE, 61, Farmer, Warmagem(?), Cheshire, his wife, Ann, 58(?), Newton Heath, three sons, James, 22, Fustian dyer, Droylsden, Samuel, 20, Farmers son, Droylsden, Joseph, 18, Farmers son, Droylsden, one grandson, Henry, 15, Power loom weaver, Droylsden and Mary FLIN,servant, 30, Droylsden. Drop me a line at dvdwmore(at)telus.net and I'll send both (actually 2 for 1841 and one 1851) of these census pages soonest. hth David

Hi Barry, Looking at the 1851 census (HO107/2224 f 0 p 0), residing at the Public Institution Barracks, is a William MOULSDALE, 25, unmarried, Private, Liverpool, Lancs. I suspect that, if he is the son of the William and Ann of Droylsden, he may have been working near Liverpool when he enlisted, but was actually born near Manchester (perhaps, Newton Heath?). This census page is a transcription from the water-damaged 1851 census (also available should you so desire). hth David