Both my husband and myself have had our DNA tested through Ancestry and found that it has not been any use to us. Okay it mentions third and fourth cousins but no route to them. I consider it a waste of time and money

Hello All, I have tested through both Ancestry and FTDNA. While I have also tested several of my family members through FTDNA, I also tested my son through Ancestry but uploaded all of our results to Gedmatch. Gedmatch provides the ability to graph the chromosomes and determine exactly which chromosomes we share with others. I believe it is an essential tool for anyone who has tested through Ancestry. I agree that Ancestry can be frustrating, particularly since they have even limited their search engines. I used to be able to type in a surname and find matching surnames within the 5th to 8th cousin group. I no longer get some of the matches that I used to find. I recorded some of them so I have proof that these search engines have been altered. While these issues remain, Ancestry still reaches many more people than the other testing companies. Apparently, the new 23 and Me tests cannot be compared as they once were on Gedmatch. That alone prevented me from recommending this company although i have heard good things otherwise. In trying to overcome brick walls, I would like the largest number of matches available but the means to determine if and how they are real matches to me. Bev W -----Original Message----- From: Christine Shelmerdine <cmshelmerdine@gmail.com> To: lancsgen <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 21, 2018 6:07 am Subject: [LAN] DNA Both my husband and myself have had our DNA tested through Ancestry and found that it has not been any use to us. Okay it mentions third and fourth cousins but no route to them. I consider it a waste of time and money _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

As has been written, you have to work at it. Ancestry has the big problem that many people do not have a tree attached and don't reply to messages. But you can check to see if they have a tree and sometimes get clues from that. You can get a proper figure rather just Ancestry's interpretation of "Confidence" - "Amount of Shared DNA - 191 centimorgans shared across 10 DNA segments" Keep checking for any new matches appearing. Look at Shared Matches then investigate them. I often look first at the map (if they have a tree) and see if we share similar areas. It is worth putting your test sample on GEDMatch (unless you are worried about being investigated for any crimes!). There are EMail addresses there so easier to contact people. I like the tool to compare matches for yourself and someone else, can give you new shared matches and sometimes more important, ones you do not share. Martin Briscoe Fort William Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507) -----Original Message----- From: Christine Shelmerdine [mailto:cmshelmerdine@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 11:07 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] DNA Both my husband and myself have had our DNA tested through Ancestry and found that it has not been any use to us. Okay it mentions third and fourth cousins but no route to them. I consider it a waste of time and money

Hi, Had mine tested...loads of 4th cousin matches (father's side) to lines I already knew about. Nothing unexpected in the results. Thought it was a little bit of a waste of time. However...recently I was looking at the odd match and there was one I could not place anyone on my tree, but there was one comman surname for someone in London. Fortunately they had a public tree on Ancestry and I managed to get this back another generation which did give me a name I had on my tree, a 3x great uncle that I had a baptism for and I knew he was still alive 40 years later, but did not know where he went, if he married etc. I was one of those sitting on Ancestry with no tree...if you want matches of use allow people to see your tree! I have now put a tree up, but just direct ancestors and not much detail, I am happy to share with relatives but not agree to Ancestry's copyright conditions. Best Wishes Dorri ________________________________ From: Christine Shelmerdine <cmshelmerdine@gmail.com> Sent: 21 May 2018 11:06:52 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] DNA Both my husband and myself have had our DNA tested through Ancestry and found that it has not been any use to us. Okay it mentions third and fourth cousins but no route to them. I consider it a waste of time and money _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I found out that my father's father wasn't his father. ???? That was interesting, though having met my grandmother I didn't find it surprising, but it has not so far enabled me to find out who she really did couple with. It did throw new light on the irreparable rift between her and the rest of the Lynches that appeared around the time my father was born. I found out years later that the children and grandchildren of my "grandfather's" older sister were told they were the only ones -- none of her siblings had children. (They had a younger brother and two younger sisters but - very Irish, this - none of the three married and they ended up sharing a home in north London). If you have an Irish name, the paddies always want to adopt you. I'm now able to say, 'Sorry, mate, I know I have the name but I don't actually have any Irish genes.' -- John Lynch

Hi, I tested via FTDNA (autosomal FamilyFinder and maternal MtDNA ) and more recently via Ancestry. My husband tested via FTDNA (FamilyFinder, Y-DNA, MtDNA) For my husband, we've been able to verify existing paper research for key lines, recognized other family lines for others, and learned more details on a couple of lines via people adding him to their histories. My results are more iffy. I thought that with 4 grandparents coming from 4 different countries, recognition would be 'easy'. Not so. I did create a direct-line tree for each of us on FTDNA (thinking more 'protected' info within a DNA-research focus). I have yet to post any tree on Ancestry. Have been happy to share during paper research, but skeptical/cautious re copy/paste/perpetrating errors on Ancestry. Realize something is needed and will post a simple ancestor tree there (stuck on editing down an ancestral tree and knowing how to post it). I have the most paper trail research for my English grandfather and expected to easily find/recognize some of the extended family. Particularly optimistic re a 3rd cousin, once removed. We're not a match; I haven't found/recognized any of my grandfather's paternal line; I did recognize a connection to his maternal line. I've been told the lack of match is not necessarily significant, but now wondering . . . . . Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) stringer@mstringer.net -----Original Message----- From: John The Genes via LANCSGEN [mailto:lancsgen@rootsweb.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:41 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Cc: John The Genes Subject: [LAN] Re: DNA I found out that my father's father wasn't his father. ???? That was interesting, though having met my grandmother I didn't find it surprising, John Lynch

I have had fairly good success figuring out these cousin relationships. What really helps is to have some KNOWN cousins tested, so for example, different descendants of each set of your great-grandparents are represented. Then when you use the "shared matches" feature on an unknown cousin match, you will likely be able to determine which great-grandparent line the unknown cousin is connected to. That really narrows down the search arena. From there you can look for similar locations in posted family trees. It is of course not nearly as helpful if the person tested didn't bother to post a pedigree. I am not suggesting this is always easy, as it is often not. It takes time and study. It helps a lot if you enjoy genealogical research. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Shelmerdine" <cmshelmerdine@gmail.com> To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 5:06:52 AM Subject: [LAN] DNA Both my husband and myself have had our DNA tested through Ancestry and found that it has not been any use to us. Okay it mentions third and fourth cousins but no route to them. I consider it a waste of time and money _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community