This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That's very interesting. MARY Rhodes did marry Samuel Ellis at Wesleyan Methodist in Horsforth. Their Son Joseph was born 17/3/1820 but christened along with his sister Mary on 10/3 1824, Mary had been born a month previous. Perhaps THIS Joseph was born a bit too early to be my ancestor even though dad Samuel has the right profession. What's even more interesting is that there was a marriage between MARIA Rhodes and Samuel Ellis on 2/9/1833, which produced a son Joseph Rhodes Ellis 24/6/1834 along with a daughter Mary Rhodes Ellis who married in 1868. This birth year would be better, but then his middle initial would be R instead of Joseph D. So obviously this is the wrong one also, just a co-incidence that the names are all similar. I've not turned up anything on the marriage witnesses yet. It may be a tall ask. Parry may well be a married name. Has Welsh connections possibly, but then that could be similar to the name Ellis and placename Chirk on the Denbigh/Shropshire border. I've just come across a Joseph Ellis marriage to a Mary LLoyd in Trefnant, Denbighshire about an hour away from Chirk. Will look further tomorrow. How's your hunt going ? Karen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>