This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Good of you to join us, the more the merrier. I had seen the 1841 census with all the family. It's possible that Joseph joined the Merchant Navy. I came across 3 records for a Joseph Ellis but don't know how to verify which Jo Ellis they refer to. Also, the marriage cert in 1855 states his profession was a Steward on a vessel. Liverpool was a big seaport, so I'm guessing by 1851 he had headed out in that direction from Yorkshire. My biggest niggle is the placename Chirk. I wouldn't have thought a Yorkshireman, living in Liverpool, would claim to be from Wales ! What I have found is a Mary LLoyd marrying a Joseph Ellis in Denbighshire in 1862 This marriage date ties in better with the son's birth in 1865, Maybe that's why I cann't find a Liverpool birth. I'm going to buy the cert and see what info it reveals, not unless you know how to check it out online. It was at Trefnant, Denbighshire 4/10/1862 Thanks, Karen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>