This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tsiv7175 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52622.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you, Shelagh. The 1901 England census does indeed show Angeliki as a child of John (George) and Susan (Gertrude) born in Turkey whereas all of the other children were born in Manchester. Not sure if they were back in Turkey for a visit or an extended stay, but will be looking into that as well. A search of FreeBMD (Thank you for the lead to that new source) for Patrinos turned up many with that name, including several likely descendants of John and Susan. But it turned up no record for the 1907 death of John (aka George), so wonder: is there a "beta" update of the FreeBMD that is not yet available? I will indeed order birth records for George (born 1892) and Helena (born abt 1888) from the GRO. Thank you very much for your help. Andrew Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>