Hi Robyn.......have we spoken before about your Ogdens?? I first find mine in Blackley/Middleton area....Samuel Ogden + Betty Haworth. I realize that Ogden's are thick on the ground in that area, but if you think there may be a connection....let me know and I'll give you the rest. mary lou -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Clarke <rsclarke@bigpond.com> To: LANCSGEN <LANCSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 5:23 pm Subject: [LAN] Surnames BARNES, ARMITAGE, BIRTWISTLE, OGDEN, WELCH, etc. Hello All, Just in case there are some new Listers hovering in the shadows I am including just a very few Surnames of my Lancashire roots. My BARNES go back to mid 18th century within the District of Altham, where we have found a possible 12 children born to GEORGE and MARY BARNES. Unfortunately, we cannot positively identify Mary's maiden surname..HAWORTH or DUCKWORTH...in any case, I also have both surnames attached to others, so include them as well. The BIRTWISTLE connection was my 3xGGrandmother, ELLEN BIRTWISTLE from Accrington, dau. Of ROBERT BIRTWISTLE and SUSAN ASHWORTH. ELLEN married HENRY JOSEPH BARNES 1788 in Accrington. He was a Blacksmith. They too had 12 children, but not all survived to adulthood. My GGGrandfather JACOB HENRY BARNES (b. abt. 1805) did. He was invited to N.S.W. Australia where he spent 7 years working for the Gov., after a small matter of poaching on a neighbouring Estate in New Accrington went wrong and he and MARK NOBLE were caught with the gun barrel belonging to the Estate owner, JONATHAN PEEL. But for this one misdemeanour I would not be here to tell the tale! In the 18th century JOHN WELCH born Accrington had 11 children, his wife was ELLEN REETON of Church. However they moved into Hyde, Cheshire later on. Their son THOMAS WELCH born in Brinscall 1836 married ELIZABETH BARNES and conducted Green Vale Printworks in Westhoughton. My ARMITAGE family originated in Lydgate, Kirkburton, Yorkshire, but don't hold that against them, because they moved to the area of Failsworth, LANCASHIRE in the mid 18th century and into Dukinfield Manchester thereafter. One Member became the Mayor of Manchester and was knighted, Sir Elkanah Armitage whilst in cotton manufacturing ...whilst my GGGrandfather JOHN ARMITAGE sailed to Brazil, in the employ of Phillips, Wood & Co., of Manchester and wrote whilst there in 1836 a continuation of Southey's "History of Brazil". He then moved on to Ceylon after 7 years in Brazil and formed ARMITAGE, SCOTT & CO., later ARMITAGE BROS., Merchants and Traders. But that's another Story... However, JOHN came home to Chorlton upon Medlock in 1856 where he died too young, leaving wife FANNY HENRIETTE JUMEAUX and 7 children including my GGrandfather CHARLES CYRUS ARMITAGE. My numerous OGDEN connections were 1733 onwards in Ashton-under-Lyne; Married into the ARMITAGE branch in Failsworth, Lancashire. Enough for this time... Anyone with any connections to any of the above, please contact me. Cheers, Robyn Australia :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message