Hello Shirley, I have this family in the 1841 census. They were living in an area full of small courts. allyways etc. that was west of Smithfield market and south of St Michael's church. I could not locate the exact Court/place/street but moving along the census records gave me Miller street and Bagshaw Court. Both of these I located in an 1840 map. Do you have this census record? I have saved it for you. Regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada >>________________________________ >> From: Shirley Fyfe <shirleyfyfe@gmail.com> >>To: LANCSGEN <LancsGen@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:48:16 PM >>Subject: [LAN] SHAW - Manchester, Lanchashire - 1840s >> >> >>My 3rd great grandmother - Charlotte SHAW was born Circa 1823 in Manchester >>& was tried, convicted on her third offence & transported to Australia (Van >>Demons Land - VDL) aboard 'Tasmania' in September 1844, arriving in December >>of the same year. >> >> >> >>>From her various convict records (of which we have learnt a great deal), she >>indicated that she had a Mother - Elizabeth at native place, Brothers - >>James / George (abbreviated & hard to determine if it's Jas OR Geo); Henry; >>John & William and a Sister - Eliza all living in Manchester. No father is >>listed & Charlotte herself has said that she had been 'on the town for 5 or >>6 years'. >> >> >> >>We have no marriage certificate/s to provide additional family background & >>have been relying solely on Charlotte's convict records to provide what >>information we do have about her life. From what we know, she had two >>children as a convict, one of whom survived to adulthood & to whom I am >>descended. >> >> >> >>I, along with some other family researchers, have been unsuccessful so far >>in locating Charlotte's family in any Census record prior to her >>transportation in 1844. There is one family whom we have found with an >>Elizabeth & a child in the 1841 Census who could be one of Charlotte's >>brothers, but there is nothing certain about this . . . without more >>information on ages of her siblings, the task is that much more difficult. >> >> >> >>I'm wondering if anyone might have further ideas on how we might be able to >>trace Charlotte's family in Manchester, or are we to be resigned to the fact >>that this might be all we ever know about them? >> >> >> >>Kind regards, >> >> >> >>Shirley FYFE (nee ROBERTS) >> >><mailto:shirleyfyfe@gmail.com.au> shirleyfyfe@gmail.com.au >> >>[Researching: BLACK, FLETCHER, FYFE, GORDON, HERBERT, JACKSON, LORD, LUNN, >>McRAE, MARTIN, PEARLESS, ROBERTS, ROBINSON, SHAW, STENNER] >> >> >> >> >>:-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >>Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  >> >>The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com >> >>:-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >

Found Redfern street and Redfern place not far from the east side of the cathedral. also noticed lots of Shaw's in the cathedral records. Regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada >________________________________ > From: Mike Morris <morrisind@rogers.com> >To: "lancsgen@rootsweb.com" <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:26:09 PM >Subject: Re: [LAN] SHAW - Manchester, Lanchashire - 1840s> >Hello Shirley, >I have this family in the 1841 census. They were living in an area full of small courts. allyways etc. that was west of Smithfield market and south of St Michael's church. I could not locate the exact Court/place/street but moving along the census records gave me Miller street and Bagshaw Court. Both of these I located in an 1840 map.