Is it always the case that when the time of birth is given on a Birth Certificate it is because of a multiple birth? I have the Certificate of my 2xG Aunt Margaret Gibson - she was born on 23rd August 1850 at 11pm at Union St Wigan. I have checked for other births & deaths around the same time but cannot find another. She was registered by her father on 31st August 1850. Regards Pamela

Hi Pamela In the early days of civil registration, some of the registrars were not fully aware of the rules laid down so put down the time on all events This tended to cease post 1850 or so when rules were tightened up As you haven't found any other likely linked births, you would need to check the other births registered by the same registrar to see if other registrations also had a time on I have found the local offices can be very helpful if asked nicely, as are the GRO Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04-May-18 1:53 PM, Pamela Simmons via LANCSGEN wrote: > Is it always the case that when the time of birth is given on a Birth > Certificate it is because of a multiple birth? I have the Certificate of > my 2xG Aunt Margaret Gibson - she was born on 23rd August 1850 at 11pm > at Union St Wigan. I have checked for other births & deaths around the > same time but cannot find another. She was registered by her father on > 31st August 1850. > Regards > Pamela

Is the time of the birth not given on birth certificates in the UK? Here in the US the time of birth is given. Why would it not be? Just curious. Susan Boise, Idaho, USA -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 7:14 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: Time on Birth Certificate Hi Pamela In the early days of civil registration, some of the registrars were not fully aware of the rules laid down so put down the time on all events This tended to cease post 1850 or so when rules were tightened up. As you haven't found any other likely linked births, you would need to check the other births registered by the same registrar to see if other registrations also had a time on I have found the local offices can be very helpful if asked nicely, as are the GRO Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04-May-18 1:53 PM, Pamela Simmons via LANCSGEN wrote: > Is it always the case that when the time of birth is given on a Birth Certificate it is because of a multiple birth? I have the Certificate of > my 2xG Aunt Margaret Gibson - she was born on 23rd August 1850 at 11pm at Union St Wigan. I have checked for other births & deaths around the > same time but cannot find another. She was registered by her father on 31st August 1850. > Regards > Pamela

No not across the board, the only time it should be recorded, is in the case of multiple births To show which the the first born, for inheritance amongst other things As I said previously not all registrars followed the instructions though Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04-May-18 2:28 PM, Susan Slade Grossl wrote: > Is the time of the birth not given on birth certificates in the UK? Here in > the US the time of birth is given. Why would it not be? Just curious. > > Susan > Boise, Idaho, USA

Thanks Nivard - very helpful as usual. Regards Pamela -

Hi, Pamela, To add to Nivard's explanation, you might find Barbara Dixon's site helpful - http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/indexbd.htm Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 04/05/2018 15:00, Pamela Simmons via LANCSGEN wrote: > Thanks Nivard -  very helpful as usual. > Regards > Pamela > -

Scottish births (and deaths) include date and time of birth (death) https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/statutory-registers/births#Time Regards Stuart ________________________________ From: jim lancaster <lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk> Sent: 04 May 2018 09:22 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: Time on Birth Certificate Hi, Pamela, To add to Nivard's explanation, you might find Barbara Dixon's site helpful - http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/indexbd.htm England & Wales Registration Certificate Tutorials<http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/indexbd.htm> www.dixons.clara.co.uk Tutorials on the usage, past and present, of the entries on England and Wales birth death and marriage certificates for family historians Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 04/05/2018 15:00, Pamela Simmons via LANCSGEN wrote: > Thanks Nivard - very helpful as usual. > Regards > Pamela > - _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community