I know a number of people who have created their own web pages and host their own trees. Not too many have the time for this when there are programs and software that provide this with ease. Ancestry is massive and Find my past as well. What irks me with online sites and software, it changes and you have to pay and upgrade. Sure they are a business and have a right to charge for this. So we must decide as individuals if that suits us. The cost of this can be prohibitive for some. However if you unsubscribe from what I found, I cannot download info that I technically originally paid for. Maybe I am doing something wrong. I had Family Tree maker from years ago and upgraded a few times, not cheap, and while another company is now taking over and this will be serviced, we don't know the costs. Also your data now belongs to software and or Ancestry, Find my past. So years of paying for these sites, unless you save items to your computer and download a gedom, you might lose it all. That's my understanding, please correct me if I am wrong. My cousin and I were talking today and she belonged to genes reunited, and she said the same thing. It's her data, and she should be able to access it. Make it private or public. Online sites are great, but any person who thinks it is all correct would be on dangerous ground, as we all know you can go off on a tangent and get it all wrong. I have JOHNSON, JONES and SMITH in my tree, and let me tell you with those names marrying, it is hell online. Even locating correct births in a myriad of online sources, be that Family Search Org - who I hold a great deal of respect for - can be wrong, as can free BDM. Basically even original record source can be wrong. Then the transcriber can get it wrong, not read the image correctly. I used to transcribe for lists from imaged items, eg births...and I can tell you it can be difficult. Just look at some census records, people should have been vetted for their writing before being given that role!! As an example, my marriage certificate signed by the local priest was wrong. He put the wrong year on my marriage! No wonder it felt longer! My uncle born and Baptised Peter Simon STACKHOUSE, had a different date and different parents!, who got that wrong. Family Search Org is free and so is putting up a family tree, and they also offer hints from source or family trees of others. LDS believe this is important. Aside from any particular religious belief there is out there. I have nothing but respect for them, for their help and access to records, yes to go into a LDS Temple to use their family history research centres, run by volunteers and not pushing their own stuff, might seem at odds for some, but I had so much help and patience, and so too my very catholic family......well it was great. Sure some items they ask you pay for, photocopies etc, sometimes you just need to get out there and give things a go, what have you got to lose? But just keep your own records and back up, digital, back up, back up constantly!!! Lynn Cheshire Cat in Oz Searching- CARLETON (CARLTON) Ireland, Lancashire and possibly Australia MURRAY - Lancashire HAY - Lanschashire TRANTER - Lancashire and Staffordshire JOHNSON - Lancashire JONES - Lancashire and Buckinghamshire COLLINS - Buckinghamshire, Lancashire, Australia STACKHOUSE - Lancashire, Yorkshire and anywhere..... HALL (Yorkshire) WADE - Lancashire

Hi Lynn, something I see in your mail that I had forgotten to do is a list of the names you are researching. Its a great reminder. Thanks. Mike Morris Toronto Canada From: Lynn Elves via <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 5:08 AM Subject: [LAN] Online trees and hijacked info Family Search Org is free and so is putting up a family tree, and they also offer hints from source or family trees of others. LDS believe this is important.  <snipped) Lynn Cheshire Cat in Oz Searching- CARLETON (CARLTON) Ireland, Lancashire and possibly Australia MURRAY - Lancashire HAY - Lanschashire TRANTER - Lancashire and Staffordshire JOHNSON - Lancashire JONES - Lancashire and Buckinghamshire COLLINS - Buckinghamshire, Lancashire, Australia STACKHOUSE - Lancashire, Yorkshire and anywhere..... HALL (Yorkshire) WADE - Lancashire  

Hi Lynn What you are paying for with online sites is access for a period of time, you are not in effect buying the image, just access to it, you need to download the individual record to your computer for future use, if you only attach the record (and often its just a link rather than the image) to your Ancestry tree online, once your subscription ends you lose access to the images but not your tree data or anything you have uploaded yourself The best and easiest method is to use a later version of FTM (2012 or 2014) which can synch between Ancestry & FTM and download a copy of the whole to your computer, that remains yours even after your subscription ends FTM synching will work until the end of 2016 and may be available in other software at some point but would be worth it to download a complete tree anyway Regarding data on Ancestry, you own it and can delete it, it takes about a month or so as they do that when the whole site is reindexed Re the familysearch tree, the main difference is anyone can work on it and edit or alter it, its one big tree not just the person who puts it on there Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14/02/2016 10:08, Lynn Elves via wrote: > I know a number of people who have created their own web pages and > host their own trees. Not too many have the time for this when there > are programs and software that provide this with ease. > > Ancestry is massive and Find my past as well. What irks me with > online sites and software, it changes and you have to pay and > upgrade. Sure they are a business and have a right to charge for > this. So we must decide as individuals if that suits us. The cost of > this can be prohibitive for some. However if you unsubscribe from > what I found, I cannot download info that I technically originally > paid for. Maybe I am doing something wrong. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus