No matter what site you subscribe to, you should always save all info to your computer, not to their trees or shoebox.  I have an ancestry tree and save records to it but save each to my computer as well.  I have Family Tree Maker but never synced to the website.   FTM is being continued afterall.  Bought by another company.  But it will not be connected to Ancestry.com.  Ancestry is now connecting to Roots Magic, I think.  Not sure but some other program.  Again,  Have your online tree but save to your computer and keep a tree on your computer, not just on Ancestry.   LDS is a great resource.  I just don't like their tree since others can add to it. On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 21:08:16 +1100, Lynn Elves via wrote: I know a number of people who have created their own web pages and host their own trees. Not too many have the time for this when there are programs and software that provide this with ease. Ancestry is massive and Find my past as well. What irks me with online sites and software, it changes and you have to pay and upgrade. Sure they are a business and have a right to charge for this. So we must decide as individuals if that suits us. The cost of this can be prohibitive for some. However if you unsubscribe from what I found, I cannot download info that I technically originally paid for. Maybe I am doing something wrong. I had Family Tree maker from years ago and upgraded a few times, not cheap, and while another company is now taking over and this will be serviced, we don't know the costs. Also your data now belongs to software and or Ancestry, Find my past. So years of paying for these sites, unless you save items to your computer and download a gedom, you might lose it all. That's my understanding, please correct me if I am wrong. My cousin and I were talking today and she belonged to genes reunited, and she said the same thing. It's her data, and she should be able to access it. Make it private or public. Online sites are great, but any person who thinks it is all correct would be on dangerous ground, as we all know you can go off on a tangent and get it all wrong. I have JOHNSON, JONES and SMITH in my tree, and let me tell you with those names marrying, it is hell online. Even locating correct births in a myriad of online sources, be that Family Search Org - who I hold a great deal of respect for - can be wrong, as can free BDM. Basically even original record source can be wrong. Then the transcriber can get it wrong, not read the image correctly. I used to transcribe for lists from imaged items, eg births...and I can tell you it can be difficult. Just look at some census records, people should have been vetted for their writing before being given that role!! As an example, my marriage certificate signed by the local priest was wrong. He put the wrong year on my marriage! No wonder it felt longer! My uncle born and Baptised Peter Simon STACKHOUSE, had a different date and different parents!, who got that wrong. Family Search Org is free and so is putting up a family tree, and they also offer hints from source or family trees of others. LDS believe this is important. Aside from any particular religious belief there is out there. I have nothing but respect for them, for their help and access to records, yes to go into a LDS Temple to use their family history research centres, run by volunteers and not pushing their own stuff, might seem at odds for some, but I had so much help and patience, and so too my very catholic family......well it was great. Sure some items they ask you pay for, photocopies etc, sometimes you just need to get out there and give things a go, what have you got to lose? But just keep your own records and back up, digital, back up, back up constantly!!! Lynn

"As a further aside, the Dannans seem to resemble fairies, living half in the mundane world and half in the supernatural. The Formorians resemble trolls or Vikings, coming either from the sea or underground. ." Some years back I was really interested in where fact met fiction (so to speak). And everything in between. So, were the Formorians the same as the Firbolgs? (I can't remember) I recall the Dannan being the 'true people' (although I agree the frustrated decision seems to have been 'fairies' and, the Formorians seeming to me to be from Spain or somewhere south, although that doesn't for obvious reasons exclude your expressed Vikings. Penny On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: > No matter what site you subscribe to, you should always save all info > to your computer, not to their trees or shoebox. I have an ancestry > tree and save records to it but save each to my computer as well. I > have Family Tree Maker but never synced to the website. > > > FTM is being continued afterall. Bought by another company. But it > will not be connected to Ancestry.com. Ancestry is now connecting to > Roots Magic, I think. Not sure but some other program. Again, > Have your online tree but save to your computer and keep a tree on your > computer, not just on Ancestry. > > LDS is a great resource. I just don't like their tree since others > can add to it. > > On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 21:08:16 +1100, Lynn Elves via wrote: > > I know a number of people who have created their own web pages > and host their own trees. Not too many have the time for this when > there are programs and software that provide this with ease. > > Ancestry is massive and Find my past as well. What irks me with online > sites and software, it changes and you have to pay and upgrade. Sure > they are a business and have a right to charge for this. So we must > decide as individuals if that suits us. The cost of this can be > prohibitive for some. However if you unsubscribe from what I found, I > cannot download info that I technically originally paid for. Maybe I am > doing something wrong. > > I had Family Tree maker from years ago and upgraded a few times, not > cheap, and while another company is now taking over and this will be > serviced, we don't know the costs. Also your data now belongs to > software and or Ancestry, Find my past. So years of paying for these > sites, unless you save items to your computer and download a gedom, you > might lose it all. That's my understanding, please correct me if I am > wrong. > > My cousin and I were talking today and she belonged to genes reunited, > and she said the same thing. It's her data, and she should be able to > access it. Make it private or public. > > Online sites are great, but any person who thinks it is all correct > would be on dangerous ground, as we all know you can go off on a > tangent and get it all wrong. I have JOHNSON, JONES and SMITH in my > tree, and let me tell you with those names marrying, it is hell online. > Even locating correct births in a myriad of online sources, be that > Family Search Org - who I hold a great deal of respect for - can be > wrong, as can free BDM. Basically even original record source can be > wrong. Then the transcriber can get it wrong, not read the image > correctly. I used to transcribe for lists from imaged items, eg > births...and I can tell you it can be difficult. Just look at some > census records, people should have been vetted for their writing before > being given that role!! > > As an example, my marriage certificate signed by the local priest was > wrong. He put the wrong year on my marriage! No wonder it felt longer! > > My uncle born and Baptised Peter Simon STACKHOUSE, had a different date > and different parents!, who got that wrong. > > Family Search Org is free and so is putting up a family tree, and they > also offer hints from source or family trees of others. LDS believe > this is important. Aside from any particular religious belief there is > out there. I have nothing but respect for them, for their help and > access to records, yes to go into a LDS Temple to use their family > history research centres, run by volunteers and not pushing their own > stuff, might seem at odds for some, but I had so much help and > patience, and so too my very catholic family......well it was great. > Sure some items they ask you pay for, photocopies etc, sometimes you > just need to get out there and give things a go, what have you got to > lose? > > But just keep your own records and back up, digital, back up, back up > constantly!!! > > Lynn > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. 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