Wendy - I am not sure if you will have seen the suggestion from Maree below. She replied to my reply and the message only seems to have come to me and not onto the Lancs Gen Board. (Why does that happen I wonder?) If this is your Annie Josephine, born Liverpool (West Derby District) in 1880- in 1881 she is living with her mother, Annie (father not there) - and her grandparents, Henry Banks 56 and Jane 54. Jane was born Ireland. Family living in Toxteth, Liverpool. Regards June From: Maree de Hauterive <[email protected]> To: June Dowling <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 11 February 2016, 21:51 Subject: Re: Births Mar 1880  - Short Annie Josephine  - W. Derby 8b252 Is this your girl ..... ?? Births Mar 1880   Short Annie Josephine  -  W. Derby 8b252 ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of June Dowling via <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 12 February 2016 9:09:27 a.m. To: Wendy Smith; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] SHORT Hi Wendy, If Annie Short was born in Sutton, Lancashire - the Registration District was St Helens - and there isn't an Annie (or variant) Short registered between 1885 - 1889 in that District. Nor does she seem to appear amongst the British Army births (as far as I can see). There are several locations named Sutton throughout England - but I agree that the 1911 census definitely states Lancashire. There was indeed an Army Barracks in St Helens itself at the time of her birth - but then again Army Barracks were fairly plentiful and that may just be a coincidence. There is an Anne Short registered in Belfast in Q/E Dec 1886 - but it would be necessary to obtain a birth certificate to confirm or eliminate that particular birth. Sorry not to be able to help. I hope some super sleuth can come up with something more positive for you. June       From: Wendy Smith via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 11 February 2016, 18:27 Subject: [LAN] SHORT I live in Kent and I am helping a good friend to research her ancestors and particularly her grand mother. The grand mother’s name is  Annie SHORT  (possibly Annie Mary Josephine SHORT). We are unsure as to where she was born but it would be somewhere between 1886 - 1888. She marries a George GOODEY in 1909 in Ireland when he is in the army based in NI. However, by 1911 they are living in Pembroke Street, London, and on this entry she gives her birth place as Sutton, Lancashire. At the moment I have been unable to find a birth which seems to fit.  They marry at Willowfield Church, Willowfield, County Down (Belfast) and her father is given as John Short – also a soldier.  I just wonder whether Annie’s family may have been local to Sutton or, of course to Co. Down? Any help would be appreciated. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message