Hi The best place to look for churches is the GENUKI website www.genuki.org.uk which is organised on a Nation/Country/County/Parish basis So you will need the Rochdale page on the Lancashire pages. The Rochdale page will list all the churches in the area and where their records are kept and what actually still exist. You can then widen the search for several miles outside Rochdale itself. Ancestry have images of the Church of England (Anglican) parishes as well as for several of the non-conformist churches. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/collections/search/uk/manchesterarchives?o_iid=54199&o_lid=54199&o_sch=inbound Findmypast do as well: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/world-records/search-all-uk-records/special-collections/the-manchester-collection You will also find records transcribed for all Lancashire on the Online Parish Clerk pages http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ Familysearch have a transcribed index of some records https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list/?page=1&region=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND&fcs=region%3AUNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND&ec=region%3AUNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND I would check not only the England Marriages or England births and baptisms there there but the Lancashire ones as well (though there is not much under Lancashire) Don’t forget that even if they were non-conformists they had to marry in the local Anglican parish church from 1754 to 1837 and may even have done so afterwards. HTH Fiona

HI all I am researching the MOFFATT family who were born at Clones on the Fermanagh Monaghan border (now in Northern Ireland) As far as I know they were Methodists, or other protestant - and centuries before would have originally come from the town of Moffatt in Scotland I am hoping to make contact with anyone from that Moffatt branch I wonder if anyone can tell me where they might have gone to a church in that Rochdale area so I could follow up re their records The generation of Charles Patrick MOFFAT 1836-1894 migrated to Philadelphia USA His father was William MOFFATT 1811 Clones -1864 Rochdale and was married to Catherine Ann O'Hara cheers Marg Marg O'Leary Fromelles Association of Australia Hunter Valley NSW RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Good One Lynne :) On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:34 PM Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > Transcriptions from the Carlisle Journal have been posted to the > UK-Newspaper-Extracts mailing list by Petra Mitchinson for some time. The > posts make for some fascinating reading. Not only did the Journal publish > news of Carlisle and areas nearby, it also published some Lancashire BMDs, > trial information from the Lancaster Assizes, and other newsworthy items > having to do with Lancashire. An example from a recent post: > > "At Lancaster Assizes, which commenced on Saturday se'nnight, the > following prisoners have taken their trials: > > "Samuel HOGG, for returning from transportation before the expiration of > his time, and John BIRKETT, who was found guilty at the last Assizes, of > forgery, but judgment respited, received sentence of death.—The latter > received hopes from the Judge, that his life may be saved. > > "James MARSHALL, for having forged notes in his possession—Fourteen years > transportation. > > "Sarah WORRALL, for stealing apparel, at Salford, and Betty KENWORTHY, for > stealing a bill, at Manchester—Seven years transportation. > > "William JONES, for stealing cotton goods, and Margaret ROWBOTTOM, for > stealing a 20l. bill, at Manchester—Each fined 1s. and imprisoned two years > in Preston House of Correction. > > "Samuel ASPINALL, for killing Samuel PLIMMER, of Manchester—Fined 1s. and > one month's imprisonment. > > "Henry HORNER, for the murder of Alice CROPPER, was found to be insane, > and remanded. > > "Mary JACKSON, for the murder of Ann SMITH, at Manchester—Acquitted, but > remanded for trial at the next Assizes, a true bill being found against her > for burglary at Manchester. > > "William SMITH and Mary BOSSON, for murder; James VARLEY, for > manslaughter; John SMITH, (admitted King's evidence) and James IRWIN,for > forgery; Margaret FULLHAM and Martha ECKERSLEY, for felony; John NOWELL, > for stabbing Joseph HEAP; William BRINDLE, for burglary; and Patrick > CONNOR, for cutting Thomas FRANCEYS with a trowel — were all acquitted. > > "No bills were found against W. SMITH, for murder, and Thomas BORTLEY, for > forgery. > > "The above Samuel HOGG was convicted of grand larceny, in 1804, and > ordered to be transported for seven years. He was removed to the Hulks, at > Portsmouth, in June following, and escaped from thence soon after.—Not long > after which, he was apprehended at Manchester, > for another felony, where he was tried, and again sentenced to seven years > transportation. > > "The trial of Mary JACKSON, for murder, lasted the whole of Thursday. The > evidence being wholly circumstantial, and she persisting in her innocence, > saying, that one James CHEETHAM gave her the different things which were > traced into her possession, and which had been taken out of a chest, in the > cellar where the deceased was found murdered, the Jury acquitted her of > that charge. > > "A poor man, of the name of SCOLES, from Newchurch, in Rossendale, > recovered 200l. damages against two sheriff's officers and others,for > distraining unlawfully. The plaintiff, with his wife and children, had been > used most cruelly." > > Read more in the list's archives at < > https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/uk-newspaper-extracts.rootsweb.com/2019/4/ > >. > > New subscribers (and especially contributors!) are welcome to join the > list. Subscription links and instructions are at < > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/details?list_name=uk-newspaper-extracts > >. > > Lynne > > > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, > and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word > UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

The next meeting of the LFHHS Pendle & Burnley Branch will take place on Wednesday 17th April in the usual venue, the upstairs meeting room at Colne Library BB8 0AP. Our next speaker,  Kate Hurst, first came to talk to us in 2017, about having priests in her family tree.  This talk is entitled, "Who Do You Think You Are", and is about her experiences of working  for the television programme when she was asked to help research Ian McKellen's family tree. She has a website: katehurst.wixsite.com <http://katehurst.wixsite.com> The talk starts at 7.30pm - doors open at 7pm so there will be a chance to chat to other members and perhaps ask for help with any problems you have come across in your research. All welcome. The meeting room is upstairs but there is a lift available. The full address is Colne Library, Market Street, Colne, Lancashire, BB8 0AP. Please note: Colne Library closes to the public at 6pm. The meeting room is accessed via the rear entrance facing the car park which has no restrictions in the evenings. _This door is locked once the talk begins (7.30pm)_ for security reasons, so please try to arrive in good time. See the website http://www.lfhhs-pendleandburnley.org.uk for further information. Application forms to join the Society will be available - please just ask. -- Colin Spiller colin@thespillers.org.uk

Transcriptions from the Carlisle Journal have been posted to the UK-Newspaper-Extracts mailing list by Petra Mitchinson for some time. The posts make for some fascinating reading. Not only did the Journal publish news of Carlisle and areas nearby, it also published some Lancashire BMDs, trial information from the Lancaster Assizes, and other newsworthy items having to do with Lancashire. An example from a recent post: "At Lancaster Assizes, which commenced on Saturday se'nnight, the following prisoners have taken their trials: "Samuel HOGG, for returning from transportation before the expiration of his time, and John BIRKETT, who was found guilty at the last Assizes, of forgery, but judgment respited, received sentence of death.—The latter received hopes from the Judge, that his life may be saved. "James MARSHALL, for having forged notes in his possession—Fourteen years transportation. "Sarah WORRALL, for stealing apparel, at Salford, and Betty KENWORTHY, for stealing a bill, at Manchester—Seven years transportation. "William JONES, for stealing cotton goods, and Margaret ROWBOTTOM, for stealing a 20l. bill, at Manchester—Each fined 1s. and imprisoned two years in Preston House of Correction. "Samuel ASPINALL, for killing Samuel PLIMMER, of Manchester—Fined 1s. and one month's imprisonment. "Henry HORNER, for the murder of Alice CROPPER, was found to be insane, and remanded. "Mary JACKSON, for the murder of Ann SMITH, at Manchester—Acquitted, but remanded for trial at the next Assizes, a true bill being found against her for burglary at Manchester. "William SMITH and Mary BOSSON, for murder; James VARLEY, for manslaughter; John SMITH, (admitted King's evidence) and James IRWIN,for forgery; Margaret FULLHAM and Martha ECKERSLEY, for felony; John NOWELL, for stabbing Joseph HEAP; William BRINDLE, for burglary; and Patrick CONNOR, for cutting Thomas FRANCEYS with a trowel — were all acquitted. "No bills were found against W. SMITH, for murder, and Thomas BORTLEY, for forgery. "The above Samuel HOGG was convicted of grand larceny, in 1804, and ordered to be transported for seven years. He was removed to the Hulks, at Portsmouth, in June following, and escaped from thence soon after.—Not long after which, he was apprehended at Manchester, for another felony, where he was tried, and again sentenced to seven years transportation. "The trial of Mary JACKSON, for murder, lasted the whole of Thursday. The evidence being wholly circumstantial, and she persisting in her innocence, saying, that one James CHEETHAM gave her the different things which were traced into her possession, and which had been taken out of a chest, in the cellar where the deceased was found murdered, the Jury acquitted her of that charge. "A poor man, of the name of SCOLES, from Newchurch, in Rossendale, recovered 200l. damages against two sheriff's officers and others,for distraining unlawfully. The plaintiff, with his wife and children, had been used most cruelly." Read more in the list's archives at <https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/uk-newspaper-extracts.rootsweb.com/2019/4/>. New subscribers (and especially contributors!) are welcome to join the list. Subscription links and instructions are at <https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/details?list_name=uk-newspaper-extracts>. Lynne

Thank you Lynne, for this information. I notice the article also mentions Foundlings. I have a foundling in my ancestry who was taken into the London Foundling Hospital - sent out to be 'nursed' - then sent to Ackworth, Yorkshire aged 6. Ackworth was an off-shoot of the Thomas Coram Foundling Hospital. He was apprenticed to a Farmer and remained in Yorkshire (otherwise I wouldn't be here!) As it says in the article -- his records were at London Metropolital Archives. It cost me about £50 to obtain copies -- so worth it though. Luckily he had been given an unusual Christian name when baptised at the Foundling Hospital, otherwise I would never have found him. I actually discovered him by doing a blanket search on Family Search. The name he was given was Gustavus Smith! This was in 1757.(His married daughter went on to name a child Gustavus Smith Barber). It's worth getting the papers if you do come across a Foundling -- gave me an enormous shock though. June ________________________________ From: Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> To: Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2019, 15:57 Subject: [LAN] Adoptions If you have an ancestor in your tree who was adopted, you might find this article in Family Tree magazine helpful, which includes links to available UK records and resources and websites that can help in your research. See <http://tinyurl.com/y57foenp>

FamilySearch offers free family history classes many of which are in webinar form and can be accessed on a home computer or other device. The price is right and a lot of the titles sound very worthwhile. Take a look at the April schedule at <https://media.familysearch.org/free-family-history-library-classes-and-webinars-in-april-2019/> or <http://tinyurl.com/y4yoyfqa>. If you take advantage of any of the classes, please tell the list about it and whether you would recommend it.

If you have an ancestor in your tree who was adopted, you might find this article in Family Tree magazine helpful, which includes links to available UK records and resources and websites that can help in your research. See <http://tinyurl.com/y57foenp>

Xh 4 Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> SFrom: jim lancaster Sent: Monday, 8 April, 22:21 Subject: [LAN] Re: Roman Catholic registers in Horwich and Bolton between 1908 and 1911 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Hi, Nan, Thanks for this reply. > I am still going to write and ask just in case it is possible to get them. If you don't ask, you will not find out. It may be wise to ask the Parish Priest how to get the information if the Registers have been deposited in Lancashire Archives as he will still be the owner of the registers. I will be interested to hear the results of your request. > I shall pass this info on to my local Bribie Island family history group Please remember that almost all the information I stated is specific to England and Wales. Scotland has a different legal system and a separate organisation of Catholic dioceses. Best wishes, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 08/04/2019 21:58, Nan Bailey wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Thanks, this explains it more fully for me. > _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi, Nan, Thanks for this reply. > I am still going to write and ask just in case it is possible to get them. If you don't ask, you will not find out. It may be wise to ask the Parish Priest how to get the information if the Registers have been deposited in Lancashire Archives as he will still be the owner of the registers. I will be interested to hear the results of your request. > I shall pass this info on to my local Bribie Island family history group Please remember that almost all the information I stated is specific to England and Wales. Scotland has a different legal system and a separate organisation of Catholic dioceses. Best wishes, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 08/04/2019 21:58, Nan Bailey wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Thanks, this explains it more fully for me. >

Hi Jim, Thanks, this explains it more fully for me. I am still going to write and ask just in case it is possible to get them. I shall pass this info on to my local Bribie Island family history group too. Regards. Nan On Tue., 9 Apr. 2019, 12:33 am jim lancaster, <lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, Nan, > > A few further thoughts. John wrote - > > > I suspect being Catholic that it hasn't been submitted as there is no > legal requirement for them to. > > The Church of England is the state church established by law and, as > such, is in some aspects controlled by Parliament. One of these is that > it is legally required to keep its parish records safe and secure. Each > diocese offers advice to the incumbents as to how this should be done. > > The Catholic Church is not subject to these laws but parishes are > subject to Church Law (Canon Law). This law also requires each parish > priest to keep the parish records safe and secure. Again each diocese > offers advice as to how this should be done. In Lancashire, the three > Catholic dioceses (Lancaster, Liverpool, and Salford) have agreed that > Lancashire Archives in Preston should be the place of safety for > sacramental registers. There is one exception that I know – parishes in > the City of Liverpool use the Liverpool Record Office. Further, it is > only advice and I know of one parish, founded in 1863, that has not yet > deposited its registers in LA. There are no specified 'dates' for > depositing registers, but it is usually when the Parish Priest thinks > they will not be needed for religious purposes. If we look at St > Joseph's Church, Bury, the Lancashire Archives on-line catalogue shows > that it holds - > > BURY, St Joseph; Diocese of Salford > C[hristenings] 1861-1923 ,M[arriages] 1863-1934 ,Orig reg ,RCBJ > > LancashireOPC has transcribed some of these - > > The Register for Baptisms at St Joseph 1861 - 1914 > The Register for Marriages at St Joseph 1863 - 1902 > > I GUESS that LanOPC has been allowed to transcribe only complete > registers that are outside the closure period. I am not sure how, or > if, one can access the closed registers that are deposited at LA. As I > suggested, a letter to the Parish Priest MIGHT help. > > Hope this helps, > > Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) > > > On 08/04/2019 12:33, Nan Bailey wrote: > > Thanks John. I did check to see if there were later registers transcribed > > and saw there wasn't. Jim's suggestion will be my next step. > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, > and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word > UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi, Nan, A few further thoughts. John wrote - > I suspect being Catholic that it hasn't been submitted as there is no legal requirement for them to. The Church of England is the state church established by law and, as such, is in some aspects controlled by Parliament. One of these is that it is legally required to keep its parish records safe and secure. Each diocese offers advice to the incumbents as to how this should be done. The Catholic Church is not subject to these laws but parishes are subject to Church Law (Canon Law). This law also requires each parish priest to keep the parish records safe and secure. Again each diocese offers advice as to how this should be done. In Lancashire, the three Catholic dioceses (Lancaster, Liverpool, and Salford) have agreed that Lancashire Archives in Preston should be the place of safety for sacramental registers. There is one exception that I know – parishes in the City of Liverpool use the Liverpool Record Office. Further, it is only advice and I know of one parish, founded in 1863, that has not yet deposited its registers in LA. There are no specified 'dates' for depositing registers, but it is usually when the Parish Priest thinks they will not be needed for religious purposes. If we look at St Joseph's Church, Bury, the Lancashire Archives on-line catalogue shows that it holds - BURY, St Joseph; Diocese of Salford C[hristenings] 1861-1923 ,M[arriages] 1863-1934 ,Orig reg ,RCBJ LancashireOPC has transcribed some of these - The Register for Baptisms at St Joseph 1861 - 1914 The Register for Marriages at St Joseph 1863 - 1902 I GUESS that LanOPC has been allowed to transcribe only complete registers that are outside the closure period. I am not sure how, or if, one can access the closed registers that are deposited at LA. As I suggested, a letter to the Parish Priest MIGHT help. Hope this helps, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 08/04/2019 12:33, Nan Bailey wrote: > Thanks John. I did check to see if there were later registers transcribed > and saw there wasn't. Jim's suggestion will be my next step.

Thanks John. I did check to see if there were later registers transcribed and saw there wasn't. Jim's suggestion will be my next step. I was hoping to at least find Margarets baptism. Her birth and death certificates are all I have for her as she only lived 2 days. Nan On Mon., 8 Apr. 2019, 9:27 pm John Hanson, <john.hanson@one-name.org> wrote: > Nan > With the OPC website it helps to go back and check what they have done for > the parish you are interested in. > From the home screen for LAN-OPC find Horwick on the list and then look at > the list of registers. This will show you that they have only transcribed > up > to 1907. > > There are a number of reason depending on the source that they used. > > http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Horwich/index.html > > As Jim suggested contact the records office but I suspect being Catholic > that it hasn't been submitted as there is no legal requirement for them to. > > Regards > John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names > Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk > Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nan Bailey <aus.bailey@gmail.com> > Sent: 08 April 2019 08:33 > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LAN] Roman Catholic registers in Horwich and Bolton between 1908 > and 1911 > > Many thanks to Pamela and Graham who found he RC Baptism for George Harry > Meakins in 1907. This was my father. > > There were two other children born to George and Mary Meakins in > Lancashire. > Margaret born on the 23 Sept 1908 and died 2 days later. Their address at > this time was Alexandra Road Horwich. Because her death was so quick, > would > she have been baptised? Possibly they had the priest come to the house to > perform the baptism. > > In the Lancashire OPC's I couldn't see any baptisms at St. Mary's church > Horwich after that 1907 register, so what church should I look for for 1908 > - 1911 > > Their last child was John Mortimer Meakins born 19 Aug 1911 at Bayley > Street, Bolton. What RC church would he have been baptised in? > > Kind Regards, > Nan Bailey > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, > and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word > UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to > lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, > and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word > UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Nan With the OPC website it helps to go back and check what they have done for the parish you are interested in. From the home screen for LAN-OPC find Horwick on the list and then look at the list of registers. This will show you that they have only transcribed up to 1907. There are a number of reason depending on the source that they used. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Horwich/index.html As Jim suggested contact the records office but I suspect being Catholic that it hasn't been submitted as there is no legal requirement for them to. Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Nan Bailey <aus.bailey@gmail.com> Sent: 08 April 2019 08:33 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Roman Catholic registers in Horwich and Bolton between 1908 and 1911 Many thanks to Pamela and Graham who found he RC Baptism for George Harry Meakins in 1907. This was my father. There were two other children born to George and Mary Meakins in Lancashire. Margaret born on the 23 Sept 1908 and died 2 days later. Their address at this time was Alexandra Road Horwich. Because her death was so quick, would she have been baptised? Possibly they had the priest come to the house to perform the baptism. In the Lancashire OPC's I couldn't see any baptisms at St. Mary's church Horwich after that 1907 register, so what church should I look for for 1908 - 1911 Their last child was John Mortimer Meakins born 19 Aug 1911 at Bayley Street, Bolton. What RC church would he have been baptised in? Kind Regards, Nan Bailey _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi, Nan, You asked - In the Lancashire OPC's I couldn't see any baptisms at St. Mary's church Horwich after that 1907 register, so what church should I look for for 1908 - 1911 [endquote] St Mary Church, Horwich, is still open today. The reason that the LanOPC transcript ends in 1907 is that about 4 years ago, the Catholic Bishops of England and Wales determined that there should be a closure period of 110 years on Catholic sacramental records. The LanOPC Admin is observing that closure. For the later baptisms, you could try writing to the church to ask for a copy of the entries. You should explain your link with the persons of interest and the fact that one child died soon after birth. The address to contact is - The Parish Priest, St Mary's Presbytery, 86 Chorley New Road, Horwich BL6 5QJ The LanOPC transcripts state - “ Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives” but the Lancashire Archives on-line catalogue states that one should contact the Parish Priest for the original registers. It looks like LA is behind with its cataloguing. Hope this helps, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 08/04/2019 08:32, Nan Bailey wrote: > Many thanks to Pamela and Graham who found he RC Baptism for George Harry > Meakins in 1907. This was my father. >

Many thanks to Pamela and Graham who found he RC Baptism for George Harry Meakins in 1907. This was my father. There were two other children born to George and Mary Meakins in Lancashire. Margaret born on the 23 Sept 1908 and died 2 days later. Their address at this time was Alexandra Road Horwich. Because her death was so quick, would she have been baptised? Possibly they had the priest come to the house to perform the baptism. In the Lancashire OPC's I couldn't see any baptisms at St. Mary's church Horwich after that 1907 register, so what church should I look for for 1908 - 1911 Their last child was John Mortimer Meakins born 19 Aug 1911 at Bayley Street, Bolton. What RC church would he have been baptised in? Kind Regards, Nan Bailey

Thank you Graham. This is the right man. Pamela found him as well and I am do pleased. Nan On Sun., 7 Apr. 2019, 6:19 pm Graham Holt, <gholt32@gmail.com> wrote: > Lancashire On-line Parish Clerks have > > Baptism: 9 Jun 1907 St Mary, Horwich, Lancashire, England > Georgius Henricus (Harry) Meakins - filius Georgii Harry Meakins & Mariae > (formerly Donoghue) > Born: 27 May 1907 > Abode: Gillsbrook Cottage, Rivington > Godparents: Cathrina Donoghue > Baptised by: M. McGrath > Register: Baptisms 1893 - 1907, Page 189, Entry 1308 > Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives > > which may be the man you are looking for. > > Graham > > On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 06:24, Nan Bailey <aus.bailey@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I am trying to find a Baptism for George Harry Meakins born May 1907 at > > Rivington. I do not know which parish to look through and am totally > > unfamiliar with this area. > > > > His Mother was a devout Catholic so I am presuming he and his siblings > were > > baptised in her faith. His parents were George and Mary Meakins, married > in > > the St. Edmunds Catholic Chapel, Bolton in 1906. > > > > The family had moved to Alexandra Road, Horwich by Sept 1908 when their > > daughter Margaret was born and died, then to 23 Bayley Street Bolton for > > the 1911 Census and the birth of their younger son John Mortimer Meakins > in > > August 1911. > > > > The family emigrated to Western Australia in 1912/1913. I have all those > > documents so am just missing the baptisms of the children. > > > > Any suggestions on where I might look would be very welcome. Thanks. > > Nan Bailey > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, > links, > > and information. > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word > > UNSUBSCRIBE > > in both the subject and body of the message to > lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, > and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word > UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Lancashire On-line Parish Clerks have Baptism: 9 Jun 1907 St Mary, Horwich, Lancashire, England Georgius Henricus (Harry) Meakins - filius Georgii Harry Meakins & Mariae (formerly Donoghue) Born: 27 May 1907 Abode: Gillsbrook Cottage, Rivington Godparents: Cathrina Donoghue Baptised by: M. McGrath Register: Baptisms 1893 - 1907, Page 189, Entry 1308 Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives which may be the man you are looking for. Graham On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 06:24, Nan Bailey <aus.bailey@gmail.com> wrote: > I am trying to find a Baptism for George Harry Meakins born May 1907 at > Rivington. I do not know which parish to look through and am totally > unfamiliar with this area. > > His Mother was a devout Catholic so I am presuming he and his siblings were > baptised in her faith. His parents were George and Mary Meakins, married in > the St. Edmunds Catholic Chapel, Bolton in 1906. > > The family had moved to Alexandra Road, Horwich by Sept 1908 when their > daughter Margaret was born and died, then to 23 Bayley Street Bolton for > the 1911 Census and the birth of their younger son John Mortimer Meakins in > August 1911. > > The family emigrated to Western Australia in 1912/1913. I have all those > documents so am just missing the baptisms of the children. > > Any suggestions on where I might look would be very welcome. Thanks. > Nan Bailey > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, > and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word > UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Here he is on www.lan-opc.org.uk Baptism: 9 Jun 1907 St Mary, Horwich, Lancashire, England Georgius Henricus (Harry) Meakins - filius Georgii Harry Meakins & Mariae (formerly Donoghue)     Born: 27 May 1907     Abode: Gillsbrook Cottage, Rivington     Godparents: Cathrina Donoghue     Baptised by: M. McGrath     Register: Baptisms 1893 - 1907, Page 189, Entry 1308     Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives Regards Pamela Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nan Bailey Sent: 07 April 2019 06:29 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] George Harry Meakins Catholic Baptism 1907 Rivington - Bolton area I am trying to find a Baptism for George Harry Meakins born May 1907 at Rivington. I do not know which parish to look through and am totally unfamiliar with this area. His Mother was a devout Catholic so I am presuming he and his siblings were baptised in her faith. His parents were George and Mary Meakins, married in the St. Edmunds Catholic Chapel, Bolton in 1906. The family had moved to Alexandra Road, Horwich by Sept 1908 when their daughter Margaret was born and died, then to 23 Bayley Street Bolton for the 1911 Census and the birth of their younger son John Mortimer Meakins in August 1911. The family emigrated to Western Australia in 1912/1913. I have all those documents so am just missing the baptisms of the children. Any suggestions on where I might look would be very welcome. Thanks. Nan Bailey _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I am trying to find a Baptism for George Harry Meakins born May 1907 at Rivington. I do not know which parish to look through and am totally unfamiliar with this area. His Mother was a devout Catholic so I am presuming he and his siblings were baptised in her faith. His parents were George and Mary Meakins, married in the St. Edmunds Catholic Chapel, Bolton in 1906. The family had moved to Alexandra Road, Horwich by Sept 1908 when their daughter Margaret was born and died, then to 23 Bayley Street Bolton for the 1911 Census and the birth of their younger son John Mortimer Meakins in August 1911. The family emigrated to Western Australia in 1912/1913. I have all those documents so am just missing the baptisms of the children. Any suggestions on where I might look would be very welcome. Thanks. Nan Bailey