From the Echo: "Authors Duncan Barrett and Nuala Calvi wrote about the company’s Plaistow Wharf refinery, in East London, in their 2012 book The Sugar Girls: Tales of Hardship, Love and Happiness in Tate & Lyle’s East End. "But Nuala said: “We’ve always felt the story of the Sugar Girls wouldn’t be complete until we could go back to the place where it all started – Liverpool, where Tate’s mother factory was. "'Women were central to Tate & Lyle’s workforce, but their contribution is often overlooked in the history books. We’d like to hear from any women who are willing to share their memories with us.' "The books working title is The Sugar Girls of Love Lane. "Those interviewed so far have described the hard work involved in jobs such as sugar-packing, working on shifts from 6am to 2pm and 2pm to 10pm. But the friendships forged on the factory floor and the social life at Tate’s were unrivalled...." "If you are a woman who worked at Tate & Lyle in Liverpool, or had relatives who did, you can call Nuala on 0151 528 9494 or email sugargirlsbook@hotmail.co.uk" Lynne

Pointed out by Manchester & Lancashire FHS, "Manchester Voices is a research project which explores the rich tapestry of accents, dialects, and identities that make up Greater Manchester. In this week’s blog, Dr Erin Carrie and Dr Rob Drummond discuss how the research will develop, and demonstrate why it really is a project about, with, and for the people of Greater Manchester." Read the rest of the article at <https://tinyurl.com/y5x7396j> and learn more about the project at <http://www.manchestervoices.org/>. Lynne

From Wigan & Leigh Archives & Local Studies: "'Carry on Cleaning' will be taking place at Wigan Local Studies on Wednesdays from 10am - 12pm. We will be cleaning the local studies books using specialist equipment and care. This is an informal, drop-in session and full training will be given to anyone who wants to drop in and give it a go! There is no need to book and the session is absolutely free."

Wow! That gave me a chuckle! Thanks, Bob. familyhistory <familyhistory@bccy.org.uk> wrote: > >Not strictly FH related but a rather unusual visitor to Lancashire >Archives reported by the BBC  - > >https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-48057114 > >Gives a whole new meaning to the expression. > >-- >Bob C > >http://www.bccy.org.uk >and >http://extra.bccy.org.uk

Thank you Bob for letting us see this -- bet the staff got a shock! June On Friday, 26 April 2019, 09:54:25 BST, familyhistory <familyhistory@bccy.org.uk> wrote: Not strictly FH related but a rather unusual visitor to Lancashire Archives reported by the BBC  - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-48057114 Gives a whole new meaning to the expression. -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk _______________________________________________

Not strictly FH related but a rather unusual visitor to Lancashire Archives reported by the BBC  - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-48057114 Gives a whole new meaning to the expression. -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk

Anzacs remember them. Sent from my iPad > On 26/04/2019, at 6:08 AM, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > Thank you, Jim. > > > jim lancaster <lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Don't forget our own Lancashire Fusiliers. The Regiments web-site has - >> >> On the morning of April 25, 1915, one of the most courageous actions >> ever performed by the British armed forces took place at a beach close >> to Cape Helles on the Gallipoli Peninsula in Turkey. The gallantry >> displayed that day led to the famous “Six Before Breakfast” awards in >> which half a dozen Victoria Crosses (VCs) were eventually handed out in >> recognition of the bravery shown by the 1st Battalion, the Lancashire >> Fusiliers. The successful capture of “W Beach”, however, came at a >> terrible price, with up to 700 members of the regiment being killed or >> wounded. >> >> Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you, Jim. I'll send notice of the meeting to the Eng-Gen-Events list. Kindest regards, Lynne jim lancaster <lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk> wrote: >Hi Folks, > >The event detailed below is likely to be of interest and help to those >with Jewish ancestry. The group that are running it are a very friendly >and knowledgeable group. > >Hope this helps, > >Jim Lancaster (Bury Lancs.) > > > > >The Manchester Regional Group of the Jewish Genealogical Society of >Great Britain is holding its 17th Annual Northern Conference on Sunday, >12 May 2019 at the Greater Manchester Police Training College, Prestwich. > >The conference programme and registration form is now available to >download on this link > >http://tinyurl.com/JGSGB17thNorthernConf > >or by accessing our society website  https://www.jgsgb.org.uk/ > >This is a full-day programme with five speakers covering a wide range of >interesting topics: > >North West Jews of the First World War: A new database – Paula Kitching > From Dusseldorf to Manchester via the Isle of Man and other internment >camps – Rob David >Catching Up with FamilySearch – Sharon Hintze >A British Jew considers a German Passport – Robert Voss CBE >DNA for Genealogy: Interpreting your results – Donna Rutherford > >Registration is now open and the event is open to members and >non-members of JGSGB alike. > >Ticket price is £27.50 per person and includes refreshments during the >day, a  kosher buffet lunch and free, secure on-site parking. The >registration form is in the programme document. >For any more information or queries, contact >manchester.genealogy@gmail.com >or phone 0734 234 2881 >

Thank you, Jim. jim lancaster <lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk> wrote: > >Don't forget our own Lancashire Fusiliers. The Regiments web-site has - > >On the morning of April 25, 1915, one of the most courageous actions >ever performed by the British armed forces took place at a beach close >to Cape Helles on the Gallipoli Peninsula in Turkey. The gallantry >displayed that day led to the famous “Six Before Breakfast” awards in >which half a dozen Victoria Crosses (VCs) were eventually handed out in >recognition of the bravery shown by the 1st Battalion, the Lancashire >Fusiliers. The successful capture of “W Beach”, however, came at a >terrible price, with up to 700 members of the regiment being killed or >wounded. > >Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Don't forget our own Lancashire Fusiliers. The Regiments web-site has - On the morning of April 25, 1915, one of the most courageous actions ever performed by the British armed forces took place at a beach close to Cape Helles on the Gallipoli Peninsula in Turkey. The gallantry displayed that day led to the famous “Six Before Breakfast” awards in which half a dozen Victoria Crosses (VCs) were eventually handed out in recognition of the bravery shown by the 1st Battalion, the Lancashire Fusiliers. The successful capture of “W Beach”, however, came at a terrible price, with up to 700 members of the regiment being killed or wounded. Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 25/04/2019 17:31, Lynne wrote: > Today, 25 April, we commemorate Anzac Day with our Australian and New Zealand friends. This a day of remembrance of the sacrifice of those who died in the Gallipoli campaign and the First World War. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Today, 25 April, we commemorate Anzac Day with our Australian and New Zealand friends. This a day of remembrance of the sacrifice of those who died in the Gallipoli campaign and the First World War. Lynne

Hi Folks, The event detailed below is likely to be of interest and help to those with Jewish ancestry. The group that are running it are a very friendly and knowledgeable group. Hope this helps, Jim Lancaster (Bury Lancs.) The Manchester Regional Group of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain is holding its 17th Annual Northern Conference on Sunday, 12 May 2019 at the Greater Manchester Police Training College, Prestwich. The conference programme and registration form is now available to download on this link http://tinyurl.com/JGSGB17thNorthernConf or by accessing our society website  https://www.jgsgb.org.uk/ This is a full-day programme with five speakers covering a wide range of interesting topics: North West Jews of the First World War: A new database – Paula Kitching From Dusseldorf to Manchester via the Isle of Man and other internment camps – Rob David Catching Up with FamilySearch – Sharon Hintze A British Jew considers a German Passport – Robert Voss CBE DNA for Genealogy: Interpreting your results – Donna Rutherford Registration is now open and the event is open to members and non-members of JGSGB alike. Ticket price is £27.50 per person and includes refreshments during the day, a  kosher buffet lunch and free, secure on-site parking. The registration form is in the programme document. For any more information or queries, contact manchester.genealogy@gmail.com or phone 0734 234 2881

Do you have DAVIES in your family? "The Commonwealth War Graves Commission and The Joint Casualty and Compassionate Centre wish to contact the next of kin of Corporal Robert Owen Davies of 10th Battalion Royal Welsh Fusiliers. "Robert Owen Davies was born in Manchester and was married to Margaret Elizabeth. He was killed in action on 20 July 1916 in Delville Wood. "Robert is commemorated on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission’s Thiepval Memorial. However, new research has shown that he is in fact buried in London Cemetery and Extension. A rededication service will take place at his graveside in June 2019. "If you are related to Corporal Davies, please contact our Commemorations Team" at commemorations@cwgc.org.

Dear Jim and Maureen, It is with sincere regrets that I, on behalf of Cumbria FHS, cannot be with you on the 1st June as we have our own conference and AGM at the Burton Memorial Hall (by Kendal) on that very same day. I will, however, relay your message/invitation to other members of the North West Group of FHS's. With best wishes for a successful meeting, Ian White Treasurer Cumbria Family History Society Registered Charity No. 518393 23 School Fold Hesketh Bank West Lancashire PR4 6RE Tel: 01772 816841 -----Original Message----- From: jim lancaster <lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk> Sent: 15 April 2019 13:49 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Catholic FHS Meeting in June in Preston Hi.Folks The Catholic Family History Society (North West) is meeting Saturday, 1st. June, at Fulwood Methodist Church, Watling Street Road, Fulwood, Preston PR2 8EA (Large Car Park at rear of Church) Programme 1-00 pm Arrival and Welcome by Maureen Fitzgibbon 1-30 pm ON_LINE NEWSPAPERS: A VALUABLE SOURCE FOR FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH Lawrence Gregory M.A., Archivist, Newman Collection, Birmingham. 2-30 pm Afternoon Tea 3-00 pm SOURCES AND PROBLEM SOLVING Meet fellow family historians for discussion on established and new sources of information and advice on finding your ancestors. Bring your own research to show us! Discussion led by Brenda Hustler. 4-00 pm Meeting closes Cost £8.oo per person (inclusive of all refreshments) Enquiries - e-mail - jeansmith1934@talktalk.net Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi.Folks The Catholic Family History Society (North West) is meeting Saturday, 1st. June, at Fulwood Methodist Church, Watling Street Road, Fulwood, Preston PR2 8EA (Large Car Park at rear of Church) Programme 1-00 pm Arrival and Welcome by Maureen Fitzgibbon 1-30 pm ON_LINE NEWSPAPERS: A VALUABLE SOURCE FOR FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH Lawrence Gregory M.A., Archivist, Newman Collection, Birmingham. 2-30 pm Afternoon Tea 3-00 pm SOURCES AND PROBLEM SOLVING Meet fellow family historians for discussion on established and new sources of information and advice on finding your ancestors. Bring your own research to show us! Discussion led by Brenda Hustler. 4-00 pm Meeting closes Cost £8.oo per person (inclusive of all refreshments) Enquiries - e-mail - jeansmith1934@talktalk.net Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.)

Hello list, I realize that with today’s technology mailing lists are past their prime and less significant than they once were. But back in the early days of the internet Lancsgen and some of the other companion lists were invaluable for getting advice and sharing information with likeminded researchers. Being from the States, I was also able to make connection with third and fourth cousins that I didn’t know I had and, by comparing notes, confirm and/or correct much of the information that I had accumulated. This brings me to my current need for advancing my research. On several occasions I have made posts regarding my grandfather’s illegitimacy and futile efforts that I have made attempting to learn the identity of his father. A year or so ago, I submitted to an Autosomal DNA test and through cousin matches  I have determined with great certainty that my great grandfather was descended from Robert and Alice Speakman who raised their family in Ashton in Makerfield in the mid 1800’s. I would like to make contact any descendants of Robert and Alice, especially anyone who may be descended from their daughter Jane who was married to Hezekiah Cottam. At this point, the evidence leans toward one of their three sons being my great grandfather. Thanks, Tom

Thanks so much for that VERY COMPREHENSIVE cheers Marg Marg O’Leary Fromelles Association of Australia Hunter Valley NSW -----Original Message----- From: Fiona Hall via LANCSGEN <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2019 9:55 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Cc: Fiona Hall <fiona.j.hall@btopenworld.com> Subject: [LAN] Re: LAN] MOFFATT or MOFFITT Rochdale mid 1800s Hi The best place to look for churches is the GENUKI website www.genuki.org.uk which is organised on a Nation/Country/County/Parish basis So you will need the Rochdale page on the Lancashire pages. The Rochdale page will list all the churches in the area and where their records are kept and what actually still exist. You can then widen the search for several miles outside Rochdale itself. Ancestry have images of the Church of England (Anglican) parishes as well as for several of the non-conformist churches. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/collections/search/uk/manchesterarchives?o_iid=54199&o_lid=54199&o_sch=inbound Findmypast do as well: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/world-records/search-all-uk-records/special-collections/the-manchester-collection You will also find records transcribed for all Lancashire on the Online Parish Clerk pages http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ Familysearch have a transcribed index of some records https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list/?page=1&region=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND&fcs=region%3AUNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND&ec=region%3AUNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND I would check not only the England Marriages or England births and baptisms there there but the Lancashire ones as well (though there is not much under Lancashire) Don’t forget that even if they were non-conformists they had to marry in the local Anglican parish church from 1754 to 1837 and may even have done so afterwards. HTH Fiona _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks for the additional links, Bob. The Old Mersey Times site is a longtime favourite of mine. Kindest regards, Lynne familyhistory <familyhistory@bccy.org.uk> wrote: > >Transcriptions from the Carlisle Journal and also the Carlisle Patriot, >Penrith Herald and a few other papers are posted to  the >Genealogy-Cumberland Google Group at >https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/genealogy-cumberland. Kendal >extracts (there are one or two) could well overlap with North Lancashire. > >Closer to home http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/ is full of newspaper >transcripts from Merseyside (including Southport and St Helens).   They >are well categorised - the sections on "Divorce" and "Bigamy" gives >information not easily found in the normal run of things and some make >amusing reading.

Thanks for sharing that with us, June. Good sleuthing to have found your foundling ancestor and nice you've gotten back so far, but £50 to obtain copies? Ouch! I envy you your Gustavus. Wouldn't it be so much easier if we all had ancestors with unusual names? Mine are all John, Mary/Maria, Hannah, and Frank! Kindest regards, Lynne June Dowling <june.dowling@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >Thank you Lynne, for this information. I notice the article also mentions Foundlings. > > >I have a foundling in my ancestry who was taken into the London Foundling Hospital - sent out to be 'nursed' - then sent to Ackworth, Yorkshire aged 6. Ackworth was an off-shoot of the Thomas Coram Foundling Hospital. He was apprenticed to a Farmer and remained in Yorkshire (otherwise I wouldn't be here!) > >As it says in the article -- his records were at London Metropolital Archives. It cost me about £50 to obtain copies -- so worth it though. Luckily he had been given an unusual Christian name when baptised at the Foundling Hospital, otherwise I would never have found him. I actually discovered him by doing a blanket search on Family Search. The name he was given was Gustavus Smith! This was in 1757.(His married daughter went on to name a child Gustavus Smith Barber). > >It's worth getting the papers if you do come across a Foundling -- gave me an enormous shock though. > >June

Transcriptions from the Carlisle Journal and also the Carlisle Patriot, Penrith Herald and a few other papers are posted to  the Genealogy-Cumberland Google Group at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/genealogy-cumberland. Kendal extracts (there are one or two) could well overlap with North Lancashire. Closer to home http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/ is full of newspaper transcripts from Merseyside (including Southport and St Helens).   They are well categorised - the sections on "Divorce" and "Bigamy" gives information not easily found in the normal run of things and some make amusing reading. On 11/04/2019 20:34, Lynne wrote: > Transcriptions from the Carlisle Journal have been posted to the UK-Newspaper-Extracts mailing list by Petra Mitchinson for some time. The posts make for some fascinating reading. Not only did the Journal publish news of Carlisle and areas nearby, it also published some Lancashire BMDs, trial information from the Lancaster Assizes, and other newsworthy items having to do with Lancashire. An example from a recent post: > > <snip> > > Read more in the list's archives at <https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/uk-newspaper-extracts.rootsweb.com/2019/4/>. > > New subscribers (and especially contributors!) are welcome to join the list. Subscription links and instructions are at <https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/details?list_name=uk-newspaper-extracts>. > > Lynne > -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk