This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dozenne Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52758/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking to connect to the families of Peter Butterworth and his brother, George Butterworth. They were born about 1941 and 1945, respectively, in the Manchester area. They were (are) the sons of Kitty FRANKS and her husband, Keith BUTTERWORTH. The father of Kitty, Thomas FRANKS, disappeared in 1908, never to be seen in England again. I know what happened to him in the time between 1908 and his death in 1948. When he died he left behind a large American family, which today is quite extensive. I am seeking to reconnect with descendants of his English children. Any help would be gratefully received in locating the families. Thank you, Donna, Bakersfield, California, USA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hello, I am trying to find living male Taylors who can trace their ancestry to the Taylor families of Rochdale Lancashire in the 17th and 18th centuries. Ancestral forenames such as Zacharai, James, George, Richard and Edmund would indicate a link to the families I am seeking. It seems that there were several Taylor families at Rochdale, mid 1600's and later, that bore these names. There is a possibility that the ancestors of US President Zachary Taylor originated here. Finding a living member of one of these families would enable a DNA test to be carried out in order to either confirm or disprove the connection. In any event, the test would yield valuable information about one's ancestry. All or part the test's cost could possibly be sponsored. If anyone can help, please reply to the list or contact me privately. =rt_/)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DANIELSEDDON198 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52353.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Howdo Harry Although not related (as far as I can tell), I research anyone with the name Seddon A Joshua Seddon was married to Charlotte Cordon. Samuel was a potter at Herculaneum Pottery. There sons where also potters, If you want the details, of Joshua and his family please ask. Also I have just been sent some details about John Frost and Ephraim Frost Dan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: peterbooth17 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/16848.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My family are from Haslingden in Lancashire. Dr John Gregory Booth (my great great grandfather) was father to Dr Sydney Booth who was born in 1860. I do not have a record of siblings of Sydney. However Elizabeth is a name amongst their grandparents. Dr John Gregory Booth's father was Sidney born in Accrington in 1806 and his father was William also from Accrington. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

The next meeting is on Wednesday May 7th at 7.30pm. First there will be a formal Bolton Annual General Meeting (anticipated about 10-15 minutes), for which we are still inviting nominations from subscribed members of the Manchester and Lancashire FHS for candidates for the posts of all officers and also committee members. Forms were issued at the last meeting and completed forms should have been returned to Secretary Mrs Barbara Owen, 47, Laburnum Road, Bradshaw, Bolton BL2 3BX, to be received in time for the meeting. If for any reason anyone was unable to do this, contact Jane Milne at (sj_milne@hotmail.com) for a copy of the form which can then be printed, completed as per instructions, and scanned and returned to Jane or any committee member. This is your chance for a shake up or provide suggestions, so please support us with this. We aim to help everyone with Bolton interests, whether you just live in the area and want to meet like-minded people, or actually want help with local research. The official business will be followed by a talk by Dr Sandra Hayton about "Victorian Cellar Dwellers". She will tell us how industrialisation forced the "Rural Poor" agricultural workers and skilled artisans away from their traditional country life to search for employment in the developing cities. They created the new phenomenon of the "Urban Poor", and Dr Hayton has some some contemporary stories to describe their new living conditions. All are welcome to attend the meeting which is as usual at Bolton Cricket Club, Bishops Road, Farnworth BL3 2JB starting at 7.30pm. A Help Desk for private researchers will be available afterwards, and all enquiries to Barbara Owen on 01204 30 9515.

Sad to say, there seem to be a lot of trees like that online.  You have to be very careful what you copy.  People with major errors like that never seem to reply or change anything.  They don't seem to care.  On Tue, 6 May 2014 08:14:30 -0400, Vern Prescott <vprescott@gmail.com> wrote: I was looking at one of my ancestors in an online tree yesterday. > According to the tree she was born about 40 years BEFORE her parents! The > person shown as her grandfather, was born shortly after she was. In fact, > the so called grandfather happens to be her younger brother. > > I had seen this tree before and had sent a note about it but I never got a > reply and the tree was not changed.

Hi all, I have been looking at other peoples trees also - one or two bits right but sorry to say mostly wrong. Not only are the errors very obvious but they never seem to get corrected, indeed it's clear they are just copied and reposted by someone else! I have usually sent a message with the reasons for the error and the references to the original documents and can say that I have only every had one "thank you". It's not put me off - I will help where I can, but I never take these trees as fact. Always check for yourself! researching Bebbington / Bebington / Bevington anywhere . . . Regards Sandra

I was looking at one of my ancestors in an online tree yesterday. According to the tree she was born about 40 years BEFORE her parents! The person shown as her grandfather, was born shortly after she was. In fact, the so called grandfather happens to be her younger brother. I had seen this tree before and had sent a note about it but I never got a reply and the tree was not changed. On 6 May 2014 02:14, David Wightmore <dvdwmore@telus.net> wrote: > Hi Norm, > > You've heard of the old expression "taken with a grain of salt"? I suspect > this pedigree uses the whole bag... but, as you say, there may be gems. > However, I suspect there are many hours of research to be done. > > Just as a thought, have you played with the lan-opc.org.uk site? I > entered > "Richard Ashton", and got 612 hits. I then entered "Richard Ashton" with a > father "Richard" and got 85 hits. Good luck. > > hth > > David > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Norm, You've heard of the old expression "taken with a grain of salt"? I suspect this pedigree uses the whole bag... but, as you say, there may be gems. However, I suspect there are many hours of research to be done. Just as a thought, have you played with the lan-opc.org.uk site? I entered "Richard Ashton", and got 612 hits. I then entered "Richard Ashton" with a father "Richard" and got 85 hits. Good luck. hth David

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ctroy90 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/3571.3651.7589/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know you posted this 14 years ago Geoff, but Bessie Critchley was my Grandmother! She passed away in 2007. I would be interested to know where you got your sources as there are some difference in details. My records seem to show that Joseph and Phyllis married in March 1919. They lived at 22 Nelson St, Farnworth - the house in which my Grandmother was born. They migrated to New Zealand and then Australia about four years later. Bessie (known as Bettie) grew up in Kew/Camberwell, Victoria Australia. My great-grandmother PBO Critchley died in Forest Hill, Victoria, Australia. I'm not sure if you can see my family tree on here, but there are some other details on there if you are interested. Cheers, Chris (Melbourne, Australia). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hello fellow listers, Recently, I re-visited my rather disorganized ASHTON files only to discover that in 2008 I received an Ancestry.com Pedigree Chart that took my earliest known ancestor, Richard ASHTON, b. 1692 in Middle Hulton, back fifteen generations - back to 1330 AD. It lacked sources and appeared to be whatever individual amateur genealogists like myself submitted to the company. I set it aside as not being  useful in any way. As an indication of how desperate I am to take my line further back, I am submitting the names and dates from this Pedigree Chart to the Lancashire List to see if anyone can add some clarity: 1. Richard ASHTON, b. 1330 Lancashire; 2. Richard ASHTON, b. 1350 England; 3. Richard ASHTON, b 1375 Lancashire; 4. Richard ASHTON, b. abt 1400 Lancashire; 5. Richard ASHTON, b. abt 1425 Lancashire; 6. Richard ASHTON, b abt 1450 England; 7. Richard ASHTON, b.abt 1460, England, d. 11 Jan 1549 (Yes, #6 apparently sired a son at the age of 10!); 8. Richard ASHTON, b abt 1500, Lancashire, d. 11 Jan 1549, Lancashire; 9. Richard ASHTON, b. abt 1523 Middleton, d. 6 Aug 1551; 10. Richard ASHTON, b. abt 1550 England, d. 27 Dec 1617; 11. Richard ASHTON, b abt 1580 England, d. 7 Nov 1618; 12, Richard ASHTON, b. 1600 England; 13. Richard ASHTON, b. abt 1625 Lancashire; 14. Richard ASHTON, b. abt 1647 Lancashire; 15. Richard ASHTON, b. abt 1670 Lancashire; 16 Richard ASHTON, b. 1692 Middle Hulton. I acknowledge that this list looks as if someone just Googled "Richard ASHTON", for whatever reason assumed that the results were beyond challenge, and submitted them to Ancestry.com where the submission was accepted without critical review. But then I could be wrong and there are gems hidden here. I would appreciate any feedback from the Lancashire List. I am ready to be told to garbage the list as useless. Sincerely, Norm Ashton (logging in from Toronto, Canada and going through life like a porcupine in a room full of balloons!)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52755.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Derek Correction James Fielding Married Mary Ann Smith 1858 ,( both of Edgworth) at St Peters Church Bolton Churchgate. Grooms father William Fielding occupation printer Brides Father James Smith Occupation Spinner Witness John Barkley & John Entwistle regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52754.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Charlierigby Found the only one marriage of the Oliverson family Christophor Oliverson aged 33 abode Goosenargh Lodge, married Jane Graham age 24 Spinster, 20th November 1869 Grooms father Chrstophor Oliverson Gentleman Bride father John Graham Christophor Oliverson birth 4th November 1835 Goosenargh other Childrens births Alice Oliverson birth 5th July 1814 Elizabeth Oliverson birth 31/1816 Margaret Oliverson Birth 1833 Richard Oliverson Thomas Olverson1831 The Oliverson births family names were also in this area of Scarsbrick not far from Ormskirk Lancashire Regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52755.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Derek re the Fieldings James Fielding birth 1839 mothers Maiden . name Redford. Reference Tur/1/435. The Marriage of James Fielding to Alice Partington at St Peters Church Bolton 1858 James Fieiding birth 1839 mothers maiden name Walch. reference Tur/1/343. Richard Fielding Marriage to Sarah Ruston at Walmsley Christ Church Egerton 1861 Hope this is useful regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DerekFielding24 Surnames: Fielding Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52755/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have two James Fieldings born in Turton in 1839. Both are on the 1871 census for Turton. One (on RG10/3929/75/49) is married to Alice (also born Turton) and having 3 children; the other (on RG10/3929/63/25) is married to Sarah (born Little Bolton), with one child John. I would like to know which has, as his mother, Alice Redford. BMD births give 3 James Fieldings for that year in Bolton area: two in Q2 and one in Q4. Lancashire BMD records give for that year (quarter unknown)- two for Turton (mothers Redford and Walch), one for Eastern Bolton (Aspinwall). Help would be appreciated, Derek Fielding Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi Norm, There is a birth of Eric ASHTON, mother JEWSBURY in 1921 Blackpool South, Blackpool (from lancashire.bmd). Freebmd shows the listing as Mar qtr. 1921 Fylde 8e 1066. Also, John and Lilian AGNEW are in the 1911 census in Swinton, and they have a son, Sidney, age 1. Lancashirebmd shows the birth as Pendleton, 1909, and Freebmd shows Sept qtr. 1909 Salford 8d 11. Also, the 1911 shows Fred and Florence ASHTON in Swinton, with a son, Stanley Peel, age 1. Freebmd shows Mar qtr. 1910 Barton I 8c 595. Also, please find attached the 1891 census page upon which Margaret, widow of Peter, shows up with, I suspect, all her children. The 1881 census has Peter and Margaret with 3 children and Peter's brother Thomas Jas, 12. I have the 1881, 1901 and both the 1911 census pages listed above on my desktop, so if you wanted copies, just say the word, and they will be sent. If there are any other census pages you do not have, let me know what is missing, and I'll see what I can do... ttys David dvdwmore(at)telus(dot)net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: charlierigby Surnames: Oliverson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52754/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for any descendants of the above family who were a leading family in the village of Goosnargh in the 18th and 19th century. They were resident at Goosnargh Lodge but eventually all left the area and mostly resided in London. I am writing a book about the village and would like to contact a member of the family and hopefully they may have some information on them, Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Just saw this. Unfortunately, too late for today's event, but there's still tomorrow and May 25. "Volunteers from the Northern Mill Engine Society have rescued and restored 27 old stationary steam engines - some of the engines which once powered the cotton mills of Lancashire. Our collection includes 5 engines built in Bolton, including one which is unique - the only engine of this particular type to survive anywhere in the world! Most of the engines will be running in steam on these 2 days." May 5, May 25 10:00 am - 4:00 pm Wm Morrison Supermarket Mornington Road Bolton BL1 4EU Telephone: 01204 846490 Email: dlewis66@talktalk.net

Hello All, It's been a while since I focused on my Ashton Lancashire roots so I think it's time to throw a little bread on the waters to see what floats back. My line begins with Richard ASHTON, b. abt 1692 in Middle Hulton in Deane Parish and moves through several generations of Richard ASHTONs in Middle Hulton and Bolton (and one in Accrington) to Peter ASHTON b. 2 Sep 1853 in Worsley, and lived in Swinton, and Salford, to two generations of Harry ASHTON, one b. 26 Jan 1888 in Worsley and the second (my father) b. 26 Jul 1913 in Hamilton, Canada. I guess I have two brick walls: the obvious one of extending the 1692 Richard ASHTON back another generation, and the second, less obvious, of discovering the siblings of my grandfather Harry and their descendants. My records of the senior Harry's siblings show: 1. Rose Hannah, b. Sep 1878, Swinton; 2. Clarissa, b. abt 1879, Swinton; 3. Fred, b. abt 1880, Swinton; 4. Lilian b. abt 1883, Swinton, married John William AGNEW on 4 Sep 1907 at the Wesleyan Church on Station Rd, Swinton; 5.Minnie, b. abt 1884, Swinton; 6. William Edwin, b. Aug 1885, Swinton; 7. Ernest, b. aby 1887, Swinton, married Blanche JEWSBURY on 3 May 1920 at the Trinity Congregational Church in Swinton; 8. Mary Ann, b. Jul Swinton, d.25 Jul 1889. With eight siblings one would think I could find some off-spring, but unfortunately, I have come up empty. I would be most thankful if anyone could provide information or leads that I could follow from Canada. I would also welcome a discussion on the likely lifestyle of my earliest known ancestor, who was either an itinerant farm labourer or coal miner in Middle Hulton. Thank you, Norm Ashton, (logging in from Toronto, Canada and going through life like a porcupine in a room full of balloons!)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: warncoort1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52722.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Might be worth a look here too. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>