Hello Nivard, Again, what a find.....thank you. But having read through his whole file, I really think the correct address was No. 95....as in the military letters it was quite clear. I looked up Cabbage Hall too and it used be an open area with a Hotel on the corner.....nowadays from Google, there is a Hotel called The Canon on the site it seems. However, from all of this, I have found a Library close by called the Breck Road Library and have sent an email off to them. Unfortunately the Harding family of 1911 was not related at all, but of course, whether they were still there in 1919 is what we're trying to find out. The question remains why did ELIZABETH FLORENCE GARRETT's Informant, HANNAH ELIZABETH ROBERTS give this address on the BC/DC. September Q. 1919. Thanks again, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 11:42 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] Help with address in 1919 Liverpool Whether it be of help I don't know In 1911 there is a George HARDING & family at 59 Townsend lane, liverpool From the WW1 service records (Ancestry) s/46689 63930 Edward HALL 74th TR BN died 30th Sep 1918 223877 attested 4th Jun 1917 NOK Peter HALL 59 Townsend Lane Liverpool 34434 52nd (GRAD) Bn Manchester regt 5th Ban West Riding Regt medals receipt signed by Mrs N A HALL 10th Apr 1921 4th Jan 1919 printed letter addresses to ?? Townsend lane Other side lists Mr P HALL 95 Townsend lane, Cabbage Hall, Liverpool

Hello Listers, Here's a months worth of updated databases that have been added to the Lancashire Online Parish Clerk website - http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html The search engine has been updated to include all of the records currently shown on the lists. 22 May 2014 Baptisms 1843 to 1892 from the Church of St Silas, in the District of Ardwick, Manchester Burials 1861 to 1965 from the Church of St Peter in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Burials 1884 to 1898 from the Church of St Stephen, Audenshaw Baptisms 1884 to 1904 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary in the Parish of Bamber Bridge Marriages 1867 to 1871 and 1875 to 1893 from the Church of St George, Little Bolton Baptisms 1901 to 1954 from St Helens Road Methodist Church, in the District of Morris Green, Bolton Marriages 1896 to 1920 from the Church of the Holy Trinity in the Parish of Bolton-le-Sands Banns 1967 to 1975 and Marriages 1967 to 1989 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of Burnley Burials 2013 to 2014 from Burnley Cemetery More burials added from October 2013 Baptisms 1819 to 1854 from All Saints, in the District of Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester Baptisms 1850 to 1870 and Marriages 1877 to 1881 from the Church of St Peter, in the district of Everton, Liverpool Marriages 1902 to 1905 from Christ Church, Glodwick in the Parish of Oldham Confirmations 1950 to 1979 from the Church of the Holy Trinity in the Parish of Habergham Eaves Marriages 1948 to 1974 from the Church of St Luke, Halliwell, Bolton Burials 1896 from Friends Meeting House, Heyside in the Parish of Oldham Marriages 1879 to 1892 from Christ Church, Ince Marriages 1852 to 1853 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool 15 May 2014 Marriages 1913 to 1943 and Burials 1960 to 2008 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Ann in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Baptisms 1884 to 1916 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne This register is for St Mary Poor House. Other registers exist for St Mary, but these are not yet transcribed. Burials 1890 to 1966 from the Church of St Peter in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Baptisms 1882 to 1888 from the Church of All Souls, in the District of Ancoats, Manchester Baptisms 1853 to 1970 from Oldham Rd Congregational Church (Independent Chapel), in the District of Miles Platting, Manchester 13 May 2014 Burials 1931 to 1936 from Rawtenstall Cemetery, Rawtenstall in Rossendale Marriages 1919 to 1930 from St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Prestwich Marriages 1869 to 1870 from St John in the Town of Preston Marriages 1843 to 1856 from the Church of St Andrew in the Parish of Leyland 2 May 2014 Marriages 1890 to 1932 from Daubhill Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Daubhill, Bolton Marriages 1948 to 1974 from the Church of St Luke, Halliwell, Bolton Marriages 1884 to 1895 from the Church of St Mary, in the District of Hulme, Manchester Baptisms 1884 to 1963 from Tonge Moor Wesleyan Chapel, Tonge Moor, Bolton 1 May 2014 Baptisms 1893 to 1914 and Burials 1918 to 1985 from the Church of St Catherine, Barton upon Irwell Burials 1837 to 1902 from Barton Wesleyan Chapel, Barton upon Irwell Marriages 1931 to 1942 from the Church of St James in the District of Broughton, Salford Baptisms 1899 to 1906 from the Church of St Cyprian, Ordsall Burials 1927 to 1941 from Christ Church, Pendlebury Marriages 1909 to 1915 from the Church of St George, Pendleton Baptisms 1603 to 1665 from St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Prestwich The above Baptisms have been updated with the full information from the Parish Registers, resulting new entries and information Absent Voters 1918 from the city of Salford Burials 1785 to 2011 from the Church of St Stephen in the Parish of Tockholes Burials from 1785 to 1900 have been reworked with additional information from the original church registers Regards, Sally

If you look on the BT site you should get the full address with postcode. http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search .publisha I just looked myself up without signing into BT as a customer and got my full address. It should be remembered that many people in the UK are ex-directory often because they mistaken believe it will reduce the number of junk calls they receive. Subscribers to FindMyPast used to be able to look up addresses on the Electoral Roll through 192.com but don't know if this still applies since they screwed up the site, I am a subscriber but just do not have the patience to use the site now and am waiting for my subscription to expire. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marg o'leary Sent: 23 May 2014 07:45 To: Lancsgen Subject: [LAN] Telephone puzzle please Liverpool Hi all I think I have found a relative in Liverpool and trying to look up the name in the phone book from Australia. The phone book I have found on line seems to give only Liverpool, Merseyside, how do you get to the address and phone number . Is it a straight payment thing?. Or is there another way? regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

<<I often see the comment that the enquirer is in another Country so are hampered in some way, but frankly unless someone has very deep pockets, even if they live in the UK they are in the same boat as you are unless they happen to live near Kew or some other repository>> You were so right Nivard. It didn't take much time at all to get a response from the LRO with an attached Form showing charges and possible professional researchers to contact. Oh well, it was worth a try..... Robyn

Thank you Eliena, I have just emailed as suggested by Nivard. So shall wait to hear back from them first.....I shall certainly keep in mind the Anfield Directories too. Cheers, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Family Historian Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 9:31 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] Help with address in 1919 Liverpool Dear Robyn Just a thought, if you do contact the local library, you could ask them if there are any post office directories which cover the address you are researching. I have found the directories useful in my research. However they usually only mention head of household.. If I lived in the area I would go along to the library for you but unfortunately I'm too far away. Best of Luck Eliena Sent from my iPad > On 22 May 2014, at 10:21, "Robyn Clarke" <rsclarke@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Dear Nivard, > > Many thanks for your interest and information. > > I thought it worthwhile, just in case, to ask the List and your response has > been most helpful. > > I shall make contact and keep fingers crossed.....I am seeking the names of > the people (any people) living at this address 59 Townsend Lane, West Derby, > in September 1919. > > Of course the 1921 census may give us just what we're looking for, but as > families moved quite frequently, we may be no further ahead and the lady to > which this information could be most interesting is late in life now........ > > Cheers > Robyn > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Nivard, Many thanks for your interest and information. I thought it worthwhile, just in case, to ask the List and your response has been most helpful. I shall make contact and keep fingers crossed.....I am seeking the names of the people (any people) living at this address 59 Townsend Lane, West Derby, in September 1919. Of course the 1921 census may give us just what we're looking for, but as families moved quite frequently, we may be no further ahead and the lady to which this information could be most interesting is late in life now........ Cheers Robyn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: miranda_graylish Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/13705.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: this is a late message but you said your mother went to school in the 1940s? would you happen to know by any chance if she knew any greylish's related to a molly greylish? she died in 1944 so she might not have known her. she was my great-aunt. my grandfather was gordon greylish (changed to graylish when he moved to canada). I have been trying to find out more about my great-aunt but it's proven difficult. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hello All, I am helping a friend with a previous search. We have, we believe cracked the case and lowered the very stubborn brick wall, but the last piece of evidence required has stopped us both. Neither of us live in the UK. We are looking for the RESIDENTS of 59 TOWNSEND LANE, WEST DERBY IN 1919, particularly around September of that year. Even if it was a year either side of 1919 it would help......... We both have Ancestry.com, which has got us this far, however it would be wonderful to be able to conclude our search whilst the person whose family we are researching is still alive. 1921 Census is just too far away for our purpose. So, if anyone could possibly help, it would be very much appreciated...... Cheers, Robyn Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52774.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jennifer Again Would it be possible if you could go to Loyal North Lancashire regimental Museum at Fulwood Barracks Preston? I understand that over a 7500 recruits died in WW1 the museum will have a great deal of info regarding fallen in WW1 battles. there will be a caretaker to help your research. regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Such a response is not surprising to me at least Some libraries will do a small amount of research or a look up for free but far from all You might try other local libraries to the area to see what if anything they can do for you But at the end of the day everything costs something to someone, Ancestry, Findmypast, etc or petrol, time, parking etc all cost money That is not to say people shouldn't ask but do expect to have to pay at some stage Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > You were so right Nivard. It didn't take much time at all to get a response > from the LRO with an attached Form showing charges and possible professional > researchers to contact. > > Oh well, it was worth a try..... > > Robyn

Whether it be of help I don't know In 1911 there is a George HARDING & family at 59 Townsend lane, liverpool From the WW1 service records (Ancestry) s/46689 63930 Edward HALL 74th TR BN died 30th Sep 1918 223877 attested 4th Jun 1917 NOK Peter HALL 59 Townsend Lane Liverpool 34434 52nd (GRAD) Bn Manchester regt 5th Ban West Riding Regt medals receipt signed by Mrs N A HALL 10th Apr 1921 4th Jan 1919 printed letter addresses to ?? Townsend lane Other side lists Mr P HALL 95 Townsend lane, Cabbage Hall, Liverpool CWGC HALL, EDWARD Rank: Private Service No: 34434 Date of Death: 30/09/1918 Age: 19 Regiment/Service: Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment) "C" Coy. 5th Bn. Grave Reference C. 10. Cemetery GRAND RAVINE BRITISH CEMETERY, HAVRINCOURT Additional Information: Son of Margaret Ann Hall and Peter Hall, of 95, Townsend Lane, Gabbage Hall, Liverpool. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/05/2014 10:19, Robyn Clarke wrote: > Dear Nivard, > > Many thanks for your interest and information. > > I thought it worthwhile, just in case, to ask the List and your response has > been most helpful. > > I shall make contact and keep fingers crossed.....I am seeking the names of > the people (any people) living at this address 59 Townsend Lane, West Derby, > in September 1919. > > Of course the 1921 census may give us just what we're looking for, but as > families moved quite frequently, we may be no further ahead and the lady to > which this information could be most interesting is late in life now........ > > Cheers > Robyn

Dear Robyn Just a thought, if you do contact the local library, you could ask them if there are any post office directories which cover the address you are researching. I have found the directories useful in my research. However they usually only mention head of household.. If I lived in the area I would go along to the library for you but unfortunately I'm too far away. Best of Luck Eliena Sent from my iPad > On 22 May 2014, at 10:21, "Robyn Clarke" <rsclarke@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Dear Nivard, > > Many thanks for your interest and information. > > I thought it worthwhile, just in case, to ask the List and your response has > been most helpful. > > I shall make contact and keep fingers crossed.....I am seeking the names of > the people (any people) living at this address 59 Townsend Lane, West Derby, > in September 1919. > > Of course the 1921 census may give us just what we're looking for, but as > families moved quite frequently, we may be no further ahead and the lady to > which this information could be most interesting is late in life now........ > > Cheers > Robyn > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jenniferclydesdale Surnames: Slater, Cross Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52774.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi James, Thanks for your reply. You've got the right family. They were christened at St Paul's Marton, and on the census returns the place of birth is given as Marton. Lytham would be the birth registration district. They could use Kirkham or Lytham in this area. It's been difficult trying to find any local people related to him even though he was one of 15 children. I've got limited information and it's so sad that he appears to have survived the fighting only to die of pneumonia and influenza in February 1919. The information I have will be part of a display in the local church on August 4th. I've been asked by a local Parish Councillor to look into those who died for this display and then subsequently those who served. So this project could take some time. My great grandfather was also in LNLR at the Somme and survived. According to my mother he wouldn't talk about his war time experiences. Knowing what we do now it's not surprising. Thanks once again. Regards Jenny Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patbrown62 Surnames: BROWNE, BROWN, HUTCHINSON, GORTON, PARKER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52777/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Greetings, I am trying to find the date and place of birth, And the name of his father - at least - of this man. By 1638, this Nicholas BROWNE was named "an Inhabitant" of Aquidneck - which became Portsmouth, Rhode Island. In his will he was called "an Husbandman" and named his children: Willliam, Nicholas2, Abraham, and Jane. I have found the children of these children, especially the descendants of Abraham. (His wife's name was not recorded.. but after 1656, he married Frances, widow of George PARKER.) He may have been connected to the group of exiles who left Boston with Anne HUTCHINSON, and came to Aquidneck. His first land was in the vicinity of the HUTCHINSONS'. Also, Samuel GORTON of Lancashire arrived at Aquidneck about the same time. I am in touch with one of his descendants. I know Samuel was from the Gorton section of Manchester, and wonder whether Nicholas BROWNE was from there? I will gratefully follow any suggestions you have, in order to find the origins of this man! Thank you, Patricia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52774.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jennifer my father served with the Loyal north Lancashire regiment in WW1, mainly the 4th/5th battalions raised from Preston HQ & Bolton . Fought mainly on the Somme,1914/1918, Dad was wounded in 1916, but servived, The conditions in the trench's were unbelievable no sanitation or drinking water. I noticed birth dates of David 1891, Joseph 1899 . Richard 1900 they seemed to be born in Lytham, regards james Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi Robyn I am not sure what you are seeking (you don't say) so it may not be relevant to your search but the only source that comes to mind would be the electoral rolls Whether anyone is on the roll for that address would depend upon their age, sex and other factors I would make contact with the library that hold the electoral rolls to see who is listed at that address Electoral rolls are by address rather than name, so you have the main necessity See <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Liverpool/#Archives> If they can't help they should be able to tell you who can I often see the comment that the enquirer is in another Country so are hampered in some way, but frankly unless someone has very deep pockets, even if they live in the UK they are in the same boat as you are unless they happen to live near Kew or some other repository Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/05/2014 07:36, Robyn Clarke wrote: > Hello All, > > I am helping a friend with a previous search. We have, we believe cracked > the case and lowered the very stubborn brick wall, but the last piece of > evidence required has stopped us both. Neither of us live in the UK. > > We are looking for the RESIDENTS of 59 TOWNSEND LANE, WEST DERBY IN 1919, > particularly around September of that year. > > Even if it was a year either side of 1919 it would help......... > > We both have Ancestry.com, which has got us this far, however it would be > wonderful to be able to conclude our search whilst the person whose family > we are researching is still alive. 1921 Census is just too far away for our > purpose. > > So, if anyone could possibly help, it would be very much appreciated...... > > Cheers, > Robyn > Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52772.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ive seen a few workhouse registers where the women came in and out and were allowed to stay in overnight and have the baby - if they were well enough then they were allowed out - so long as they had somewhere to go- servant women often got pregnant and unfortunatley if they wre found to be pregnant would usually lose their jobs - ive read some very sad stories of them hiding the pregnancy working the full 9 months and then hiding the babies Evelyn would not have been able to return to her job with a baby in tow and if she had no means of supporting it - and I should imagine things were pretty for her - many would go back to work and have the intention of saving enough - I would certainly have a go with the workhouse records - although i cant seem to find much on line for the years you need - and its possible that poor Evelyn went in for one day and then had to go back to work keep us updated let us know if you find anything Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jenniferclydesdale Surnames: Slater, Cross Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52774/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm trying to find information on the above person as I'm researching those service men from Warton, Preston who died during or shortly after WW1. David has a CWGC headstone in St Paul's Church Graveyard, Warton and is recorded on the Memorial Board in the church. He served in the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment and died in 1919 from pneumonia and influenza. I've been unable to trace his service records or any other information, except his brother Richard and Joseph also served during the war. I know he was one of at least 15 children but have not been able to find relatives living in the area. We are putting up a display in the church on August 4th to commemorate the centenary of WW1 and as part of that will be posting information about those on the memorial. Any help would be appreciated on David. His parents were John Slater and Margaret Cross. Thank you for reading this. Regards Jenny Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Lynne, You made me laugh....... better than a hand out eh!!!!! Sheila(Fife)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pauli936 Surnames: Washington, Lawrence, Holden Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/7176.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On the "The Lawrence Family Ancestry of Ashton Hall, Lancashire, England" 1) an Agnes Washington b abt 1524 married to john Lawrence and the date of his death/will is 27 Apr 1590 and the date of Agnes death/buried is the same as yours. This could be the Agnes on your list #14 2) #12 This could be Robert Lawrence b abt 1477, married to Elizabeth Holden who was b abt 1485 and they had a son, John who died 21 May 1590. I have not proven these they are both from the site mentioned and on this site the Lawrence family continues into Canada. Hope it helps. Pauli Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>