This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobynClarke32 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52763.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there, Thanks very much for the information about the Marriage of William Henry Williams and Elizabeth Florence Garrett.....very useful information too. However, could we possibly have your transcription of the second Witness, I know they are often so hard to read, but any idea of who it may have been, may be useful in identifying this William H Williams........... Cheers, Robyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi Robyn, I have the WILLIAMS (96 Howe Street) 1911 census page on my desktop, and it will be forwarded to you off-list soonest. hth David

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: amykrowley123 Surnames: Preston Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/1724.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Donna. I also have Ebenezer Preston (1750-1833 in cape may, new jersey) in my tree and was wondering if you've had any luck on getting any further with this family line? I know it's been quite sometime since you have posted this but thought i would give it a shot and see if you may have gotten any info since you've last posted. I would love to know how you may be related...Please contact me at laducersara@gmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: peterbarnes35 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52779.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: WHITEFAN1930. IMHO ,no. there are many Henry' Barnes, locted in Haslingden. But the Henry Barnes i am related to, married Betty Nutter. This is noted in the 1841 and 1851 censuses. Their grave is in St James cemetry, H23. And in the grave are about five other family members. I have pictures of the gravestone, which i' post at a later date. Henry died in 1859, and Betty his wife died a year later. A number of Henry's family, that appear in the census records are buried in that grave. It can also be noted from the census records that Henry was a farmer at Clough Bottom farm, which is a comparitively isolated spot, which i know well. And if you look in the online parish clerks records, for St James church, then if clough bottom, or clough bottom farm appear, then they come from this farm. Iv'e also posted the will of the Henry Barnes of Clough Bottom, who i'm certain is Henry's father. He married an Isabel Greenwood,which changed her name to Isabel Barnes,' Also noted at Clough Bottom ,She! died in 1811, as noted in St James records. I have quite a lot of material relating to both the Henry's which i post later. Including henry Barnes daughter Isabel who married A ralph barnes. With Barnes marrying Barnes, it does get very complicated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52779.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Peter Re James Barnes baptism at St James Church Haslingden 16th March 1786 Parents James & Peggy Barnes. abode Workhouse. Does this fit the bill? regards james Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patbrown62 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52777.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi James, Thank you, Again! I can visit my FHC to get that - my phone is considered "rural" and will not be updated, so I cannot use FamilySearch at home! But thank you for the additional dates of birth. Patricia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52777.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Patricia the site that I use for centuries 1560 on to 1837, named .(Family Search), its records search you able to find any counties in UK . Lancashire is the one you need for your research, the birth records are for 1605 & 1609 For the Nicholas regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: peterbarnes35 Surnames: Barnes Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52779/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My name is PeterBarnes. And since finding out, about 7 years ago, that i am related to James Barnes, the son of Henry Barnes, born 1783, baptised 1786. I have been researching,(after a pause), Henry barnes of Haslingden. I live about 20 miles from Haslingden, and frequently visit both Haslingden and Rawtenstall public libraries, and their family history sites. I have also paid many visits, to St James church yard . Rawtenstall and Haslingden libraries both contain the monumental inscriptions for St James. I would also add, researching the Barneses of Haslingden is not easy.The reason being there were so many of them, and many were intertwined. The name is sometimes spelt Barns, and not Barnes, but there is no difference. James Barnes moved to Eccles, in lancashire, and his offsprings of which i am one are located in the Eccles area, and also Roe Green near Worsley. When researching Henry Barnes, i hit a brick wall, inthat Henry, according to St James records was recorded as the child of a single woman. Hence the pause in my family research.I decided to resume researching Henry, and on many visits to Rawtestall library came across a book, in which, the wills, of a number of people, were given. The will that interested me, was a will of a Henry Barnes of Haslingden. which i obtained from Preston records office for £5. It wasn't the will of the Henry Barnes born 1783, but a Henry Barnes, who died in 1815. The common denominator, between, both Henry Barnes, one and two is the both lived at Clough Bottom farm. As did what must be the first Henry Barnes wife Isabell Greenwood, also of the Clough bottom adress.Henry barnes one is the father, of Henry barnes two. Isabel died in 1811, four years before Henry. Other relatives of the Henry, born 1783, lived at Todhall in Haslingden. which by that time were a series of tenements. Both Henry's! daughter Isabel and her husband Ralph Barnes lived there, as did a John Barnes, next door at Todhall farm. Much of the information i have gleaned has been done in the last few months. And iv'e not as yet, entered it into my family history. And i have a number of documents, including the first Henry's will, from Preston.And i still have to collate, much of the information. I hope some of this information helps others who are researching Henry Barnes. The nearest family tree, ive come across,regarding Henry is located, in peoples family trees is a 'Heather'. I hope some of this information helps, others who are researching Henry Barnes of Haslingden. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patbrown62 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52777.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Andrea, Thank you for your interest. You mentioned Cockerham ChurchES - are there several? I assume I would need to order the Parish records through LDS. Or is there another way? Thank you for your help, Patricia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patbrown62 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52777.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi James. Thank you for the search. Did you find these two Nicholases on a list? I am hoping to keep track of each one with where they appear in records, so would appreciate how you found each Nicholas. I have not searched in Lancashire before. Patricia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52777.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Found a few but I guess he could have come from anywhere in England - if he sailed from Liverpool (lets assume the Gorton man would have) The churches in Cockerham seem to be churches where records appear to have survived quite well and were not affected greatly by civil war etc - this is why a lot of trails lead back to Cokerham as our ONLY links in some respects but should be aired with great caution - I think I have seen several posts in the past searching for the same man - and you may have a dead line there are you have done well to get back so far in the first place - Maybe research the Nicholases which you DO find by process of elimination - ie is there a records suggesting that the Cockerham Nicholas got married and died in that church ? same for the other Nicholas ( i think i found a couple myslef through search ) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi all I think I have found a relative in Liverpool and trying to look up the name in the phone book from Australia. The phone book I have found on line seems to give only Liverpool, Merseyside, how do you get to the address and phone number . Is it a straight payment thing?. Or is there another way? regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW

Hi Jim I really appreciate your help. Since sending my original request for a look up I have kept up the census search for Mary Jane and found her with her mother, Margaret, in 1881. She is enumerated in the household of Thomas Charles Robinson who, it turns out, is the second husband of Margaret Carter (marriage registered in Sept Q of 1888). So I searched back in the censuses for a Margaret Carter with the same birth details and found her in 1881 with her first husband - named Thomas! Thomas Carter and Margaret Slater married in the March Q of 1881 in the Clitheroe RD. Thanks to everyone who has offered help. You have been inspirational!! :-) Ruth > From: lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:37:43 +0100 > Subject: Re: [LAN] LRO Look Up Request > > Hi, Ruth, > > Looking at your original note, I have missed the point. However, looking > at LancsBMD Birth Index shows > > Birth Indexes > > Surname, Forename(s); Mother's Maiden Name; Year; Sub-District; Registers > At; Region; Reference > > CARTER, Mary Jane; SLATER; 1881; Chipping; Preston; Lancashire; CH/9/89 > > This is the only Mary Jane CARTER entry for 1881 so it is likely to be the > one you seek - but not proven. Using the surname and mother's maiden name > and searching marriages in LancsBMD shows five in the period 1837 to 1881, > but only one after 1863 - > > Marriage Indexes > > Surname, Forename(s); Spouse's Surname, Spouse's Forename(s); Year; Church / > Register Office; Registers At; Region; Reference > > CARTER, Thomas; SLATER, Margaret; 1881; Great Mitton, All Hallows; Preston; > Lancashire; C14/1/280 > > Again the registers of this church have been deposited in Lancashire > Archives (see the index I quoted, looking for Mitton) but not the marriage > registers for the period of interest. Many Lancashire registers have been > transcribed and are available on Lancashire On-line Parish Clerk Project > (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html ) but the marriage transcripts for > Mitton have only reached 1841. Perhaps another poster knows if the Marriage > Registers for this church are still with the church. > > Sorry for my confusion, > > Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) >

Many thanks Jim. I hope to be in LRO in July, so it looks as if I will have to be patient until then. Regards Ruth > From: lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:07:18 +0100 > Subject: Re: [LAN] LRO Look Up Request > > Hi, > > Further to Meg's note, LancashireBMD > (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php ) has - > > Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903 > > Surname, Forename(s); Surname, Forename(s); Church / Register Office; > Registers At, Reference > > CARTER, Mary Jane; COWKING, Charles, Dalehead, St James; Preston C22/1/52 > > This provides the name of the church and shows that the civil register is > now with Superintendent Registrar, Lancashire Registration District, > Certificate Services, Quayside Court, Chain Caul Way, Preston, PR2 2ZP > > The Lancashire Archives' list of Anglican Church Registers ( > http://new.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/archives-and-record-office/search-the-archives/church-registers-guide.aspx > ) shows that the church copy of the marriage register has been deposited > there and shows - > > DALEHEAD, St James (Slaidburn) – Yorkshire; Diocese of Bradford > Christenings 1852-1936; Marriages 1871-1936; Burials 1853-1935; Orig reg; PR > 3436/1/18-20 > > which suggests that the original registers are available for consultation on > microfilm, but there does not appear to be an index or transcript. > > Hope this helps > > Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) >

Hi, Ruth, Looking at your original note, I have missed the point. However, looking at LancsBMD Birth Index shows Birth Indexes Surname, Forename(s); Mother's Maiden Name; Year; Sub-District; Registers At; Region; Reference CARTER, Mary Jane; SLATER; 1881; Chipping; Preston; Lancashire; CH/9/89 This is the only Mary Jane CARTER entry for 1881 so it is likely to be the one you seek - but not proven. Using the surname and mother's maiden name and searching marriages in LancsBMD shows five in the period 1837 to 1881, but only one after 1863 - Marriage Indexes Surname, Forename(s); Spouse's Surname, Spouse's Forename(s); Year; Church / Register Office; Registers At; Region; Reference CARTER, Thomas; SLATER, Margaret; 1881; Great Mitton, All Hallows; Preston; Lancashire; C14/1/280 Again the registers of this church have been deposited in Lancashire Archives (see the index I quoted, looking for Mitton) but not the marriage registers for the period of interest. Many Lancashire registers have been transcribed and are available on Lancashire On-line Parish Clerk Project (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html ) but the marriage transcripts for Mitton have only reached 1841. Perhaps another poster knows if the Marriage Registers for this church are still with the church. Sorry for my confusion, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Appleby Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 11:45 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] LRO Look Up Request

Hi, Further to Meg's note, LancashireBMD (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php ) has - Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903 Surname, Forename(s); Surname, Forename(s); Church / Register Office; Registers At, Reference CARTER, Mary Jane; COWKING, Charles, Dalehead, St James; Preston C22/1/52 This provides the name of the church and shows that the civil register is now with Superintendent Registrar, Lancashire Registration District, Certificate Services, Quayside Court, Chain Caul Way, Preston, PR2 2ZP The Lancashire Archives' list of Anglican Church Registers ( http://new.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/archives-and-record-office/search-the-archives/church-registers-guide.aspx ) shows that the church copy of the marriage register has been deposited there and shows - DALEHEAD, St James (Slaidburn) – Yorkshire; Diocese of Bradford Christenings 1852-1936; Marriages 1871-1936; Burials 1853-1935; Orig reg; PR 3436/1/18-20 which suggests that the original registers are available for consultation on microfilm, but there does not appear to be an index or transcript. Hope this helps Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) -----Original Message----- From: Magdalen Galley-Taylor Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 1:46 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] LRO Look Up Request

Yes, thank you Meg. I have the GRO references for her birth and marriage. Looking for parents' names. Regards Ruth > From: meg@taylor.it > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 13:46:20 +0100 > Subject: Re: [LAN] LRO Look Up Request > > Is this it? This is from FreeBMD. Obvioulsy no parent information > available here but it does give you the full reference. > > Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%) > > Carter Mary Jane Clitheroe 8e 527 > Cowking Charles Clitheroe 8e 527 > > Meg Galley-Taylor > meg@taylor.it > > -----Original Message----- > From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Ruth Appleby > Sent: 23 May 2014 11:45 > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LAN] LRO Look Up Request > > Is SKS going to LRO soon, who would be willing to do a look-up for me? > > I'm seeking the baptism or marriage of Mary Jane Carter. She was born at > Dalehead (which is in West Yorks but the registers are at LRO) in the second > quarter of 1881, and married Charles COWKING there in the last quarter of > 1903. Nothing found in Family Search, Ancestry, FreeREG or FMP. > > I am trying to find Mary Jane's parents without purchasing certificates if > possible. > > Many thanks in advance. Happy to reciprocate in Hampshire RO or Portsmouth > History Centre > > Ruth in Hampshire > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this it? This is from FreeBMD. Obvioulsy no parent information available here but it does give you the full reference. Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%) Carter Mary Jane Clitheroe 8e 527 Cowking Charles Clitheroe 8e 527 Meg Galley-Taylor meg@taylor.it -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Appleby Sent: 23 May 2014 11:45 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] LRO Look Up Request Is SKS going to LRO soon, who would be willing to do a look-up for me? I'm seeking the baptism or marriage of Mary Jane Carter. She was born at Dalehead (which is in West Yorks but the registers are at LRO) in the second quarter of 1881, and married Charles COWKING there in the last quarter of 1903. Nothing found in Family Search, Ancestry, FreeREG or FMP. I am trying to find Mary Jane's parents without purchasing certificates if possible. Many thanks in advance. Happy to reciprocate in Hampshire RO or Portsmouth History Centre Ruth in Hampshire :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is SKS going to LRO soon, who would be willing to do a look-up for me? I'm seeking the baptism or marriage of Mary Jane Carter. She was born at Dalehead (which is in West Yorks but the registers are at LRO) in the second quarter of 1881, and married Charles COWKING there in the last quarter of 1903. Nothing found in Family Search, Ancestry, FreeREG or FMP. I am trying to find Mary Jane's parents without purchasing certificates if possible. Many thanks in advance. Happy to reciprocate in Hampshire RO or Portsmouth History Centre Ruth in Hampshire

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52777.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Patricia Re Nicholas Browne Birth in Lancashire, 24th 1605 baptised at St Mary.s church Lancaster Father's name George Browne Mother Agnes Browne. Therei is a another Nicgolas Browne,, but the spelling of Browne entered as father Richard Burne wife as Agnes was spelt Browne baptised at Cockerham Lancashire 17/10/1609. Hope you find the right one Regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>