This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: amandachristien Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/13802.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Reginald Dunstan Hoole was my Grandfather. I am Amanda Hoole-Jones. My father is Reginald Ibbotson Hoole Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52787.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Nicole Do you know the mothers maiden name, there is a birth of Phillip Cheetham 1951 Oldham, mothers maiden name Langan? regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Racklever Surnames: CHEETHAM Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52787.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a possible match but it is in 1955. Is the mother's maiden name correct ? Births Jun 1955 Name CHEETHAM Philip Mother's maiden name FULCHER Reference to order the birth certificate: Middleton 10e 693 http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/districts.pl?r=209970768&d=bmd_1399917892 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shazrogers2 Surnames: cheetham Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52787/mb.ashx Message Board Post: im looking for birth of phillip cheetham my brother was in foster care in rochdale thats all i no ,his mother barbara cheetham i no he must of been born between 1954 and 1960 can rule out 1955 and 1957 as other siblings born in those years ,i cannot find birth details anywhere i do not think phillip was adopted Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: richards2011 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/41907.5.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Sean: I was recently in Liverpool, staying with family who live onsite at the former grounds of St. Saviour's Convent , originaily the private residence called Holmestead. Was The Elmwood a separate building owned by the Salvation Army? St. Saviour's was a Catholic owned property running a home for pregnant girls and using them to work their laundry. Very similar and adjacent... or the same complex? Thanks so much, Annette Richards Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jimlancaster94 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52783.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Picking up on Maureen's information, I looked on LancashireBMD (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ ) for the marriage of any Robert ROWLEY in Lancashire between 1863 (Robert would have been ca 20 years of age) and 1881. There were only three entries, one of which was - Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871 Surname, Forename(s); Surname, Forename(s); Church / Register Office; Registers At; Reference ROWLEY Robert Enoch HARGREAVES Margaret Bury Register Office or Registrar Attended Bury RM/27/157 The reference number shows that the marriages was not in an Anglican church but in a non-Anglican chapel or in the Registrar's Office. Birth Indexes Surname, Forename(s); Mother's Maiden Name; Year; Sub-District; Registers At; Reference ROWLEY, Betsy; HARGREAVES; 1872; Bury North; Bury; BN/37/74 ROWLEY, Harold; HARGREAVES; 1879; Bury North; Bury; BN/48/45 Searching the LancsBMD Death indexes shows - Death Indexes Surname, Forename(s); Age at Death; Year; Sub-District; Registers At; Reference ROWLEY, Harold; 1 [year]; 1880; Bury North; Bury; BN/34/64 These details match Maureen's findings but do not clearly link with your family. There was no obvious match for a Robert ROWLEY birth in either LancashireBMD or CheshireBMD, even when using a Soundex search and a wide range of years. Hope this adds to the picture, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: butterworth_oz Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52785.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Carol, There are two trees on Genes Reunited that contain a Joseph, 1874, Bickerstaffe. I have sent a message to each (Derek McG.... & Elizabeth Rich.....), with a link to this thread, suggesting they might be interested. The only trouble is that apparent 'engagement' and response from GR (ex?-) tree holders is quite low. Good Luck Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Re:WEBB, HARRIS ORPHANAGE I have noticed a number of previous posts on the subject of the Harris Orphanage in Preston. My Great uncle and aunt, Frederick and Elizabeth Webb, worked there, must have been in the 1920s and 30s I guess, as my mum recalled visiting them there when she was a child/teenager. Elizabeth Webb took a party of orphans to Southport (I think) - my gran was also with the party and I have a couple of group photos of both of them with the group of children on the trip. I have no date for the pictures, I'm afraid. If anyone recalls Frederick and Elizabeth Webb, I 'd love to hear from them. Or fom anyone who has any additional information about the Harris Orphanage at that time. Angela

a Marriage took place Q4 1927 Fylde registration district between Frederick Fenton and Mable Savill(e). Has anyone seen the marriage certificate? Looking for the father's name of Frederick Fenton.. Ancestry Trees have several options for this and I'd like to know for certain. Thank you

Looking for John Innes Gale born 1970 and/or his brother Ian Christopher Gale born 1973 Thank you

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaureenEdna Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52783.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Colin, Wonder if this could help you in any way from 1881 census.. 1 York Street, Bury, Lancashire Robert E Rowley Head Married age 38 b.1843 Congleton,Cheshire Occupation.Estate & General Comml Agent. Margaret Rowley Wife age 36 b.1845 Enenfield,Lancashire. Betsy Rowley Daughter age 8 b.1873 Bury,Lancashire. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also found this in Lancashire Parish records. Baptism 28 Sept 1851 St Thomas,Church,Melling,Lancashire James Rowley Child of Henry Rowley & Margaret. Abode.Maghull Occupation Farmer Birth June Quarter 1851 Wolstanton in the county of Staffordshire. Robert Rowley Ref.Vol 17 Page 327. Birth Dec Quarter 1851 Carlisle which spans the boundaries of Cumbria & Cumberland Robert Rowley Ref.Vol 25 Page 67 Hope this helps in some way. Regards. Maureen. Liverpool.U.K. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

No Nivard - it really is Ancestry. They have the images, they just uploaded others twice. I've requested a copy from Family Search in the meantime. Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: 31 May 2014 20:42 > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAN] Manchester Cathedral Marriage > > Hi Ruth > > It may not be Ancestry, if the originals have been lost, > perhaps only the BTs survive > > As you say Ancestry are not quick at resolving issues with > databases already available, mind you neither are findmypast, > both appear to favour bringing new data out rather than > correcting what they have already > > If you get no joy with a lookup the familysearch route is > probably the next best avenue to try > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 31/05/2014 20:19, Numero Uno wrote: > > Hi Nivard > > > > I'll give FamilySearch a try. > > > > Just for info, I contacted Ancestry when I discovered they had > > duplicated some images. They acknowledged the error and > put it on the > > list for correction. As it's Ancestry, I am not holding my breath!! > > > > Ruth > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing > list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at > LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ruth It may not be Ancestry, if the originals have been lost, perhaps only the BTs survive As you say Ancestry are not quick at resolving issues with databases already available, mind you neither are findmypast, both appear to favour bringing new data out rather than correcting what they have already If you get no joy with a lookup the familysearch route is probably the next best avenue to try Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 31/05/2014 20:19, Numero Uno wrote: > Hi Nivard > > I'll give FamilySearch a try. > > Just for info, I contacted Ancestry when I discovered they had duplicated > some images. They acknowledged the error and put it on the list for > correction. As it's Ancestry, I am not holding my breath!! > > Ruth

Hi Nivard I'll give FamilySearch a try. Just for info, I contacted Ancestry when I discovered they had duplicated some images. They acknowledged the error and put it on the list for correction. As it's Ancestry, I am not holding my breath!! Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: 31 May 2014 20:06 > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LAN] Manchester Cathedral Marriage > > Hi Ruth > > I would make contact with Greater Manchester records office > to see if they have the missing year, it may be nothing to do > with Ancestry > > As the marriage is on familysearch, you could order a copy of > the entry from them, theirs may be the BTs > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 31/05/2014 19:51, Numero Uno wrote: > > Could someone please check a marriage at Manchester > Cathedral for me. > > I need the details from the register, not the GRO reference. > > > > On 25 December 1858, William Barnett married Margaret > Henderson. I am > > trying to find out whether this is a second marriage for William. > > > > The whole of 1858, apart from one or two entries, is missing on > > Ancestry. I told them about it nearly a year ago, but > nothing has yet been done. > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > > > Ruth in Hampshire > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing > list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at > LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ruth I would make contact with Greater Manchester records office to see if they have the missing year, it may be nothing to do with Ancestry As the marriage is on familysearch, you could order a copy of the entry from them, theirs may be the BTs Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 31/05/2014 19:51, Numero Uno wrote: > Could someone please check a marriage at Manchester Cathedral for me. I need > the details from the register, not the GRO reference. > > On 25 December 1858, William Barnett married Margaret Henderson. I am trying > to find out whether this is a second marriage for William. > > The whole of 1858, apart from one or two entries, is missing on Ancestry. I > told them about it nearly a year ago, but nothing has yet been done. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Ruth in Hampshire

Could someone please check a marriage at Manchester Cathedral for me. I need the details from the register, not the GRO reference. On 25 December 1858, William Barnett married Margaret Henderson. I am trying to find out whether this is a second marriage for William. The whole of 1858, apart from one or two entries, is missing on Ancestry. I told them about it nearly a year ago, but nothing has yet been done. Many thanks in advance. Ruth in Hampshire

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jimlancaster94 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52786.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking at LancashireBMD (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php ) there are only three female FRASER births recorded in the present Manchester Registration District. The old Registration Districts of Manchester, Chorlton and Prestwich are largely in the present day Manchester District. The three births are - Surname, Forename(s); Sub-District; Registers At; Mother's Maiden Name; Reference Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1856 FRASER Mary London Road Manchester LRD/45/75 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1857 FRASER Margaret Hulme Manchester HUL/76/73 FRASER Sarah Cheetham Manchester CHE/16/24 The mother's maiden name is not yet available for Manchester entries. There are no Ann (or similar) Fraser births recorded in the rest of Lancashire on this site for these years. The possible reasons are - 1) Birth not registered. At this time it was the Registrar's duty to record births and kit was only about 1878 that the duty of registration was placed on the parents of the child. 2) Birth registered under a different surname. 3) Birth registered outside Lancashire. Turning to her marriage, LancashireBMD has - Surname. Forename(s); Surname, Forename(s); Church / Register Office; Registers At; Reference Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1880 FRASER Annie ROBINSON William Elton, All Saints Bury CE11/4/276 A transcript of All Saints', Elton marriage register has Entry 276; 1880; William Robinson, age 22, Bachelor; Labourer; of Elton, father Peter Robinson, a Coach Builder married Annie Fraser, age 23, spinster, of Elton, daughter of Joseph Fraser, Looking at LancashireBMD for births of ROBINSON children with a FRASER mother shows only three in Lancashire between 1979 and 1901 - Surname, Forename(s); Sub-District; Registers At; Mother's Maiden Name; Reference Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1888 ROBINSON Albert Elton Bury FRASER ELT/37/87 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1890 ROBINSON Maud Elton Bury FRASER ELT/39/92 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1893 ROBINSON Harry Elton Bury FRASER ELT/41/77 This is consistent with your understanding that Edith Ann was born in Hebden Bridge. There is a YorkshireBMD but it is not as extensive as the LancashireBMD. Hebden Bridge is now in the Todmorden Registration District and none of the records for this district have been included in YorkshireBMD. However, Edith Ann's baptism is recorded in All Saints', Elton Baptism Register along with the three noted above - Entry; Name; Father, Mother; Abode; Father's occupation; Date of Birth; Date of Baptism 2098, Edith Ann Robinson; William, Annie; Elton; Stripper & Grinder; 27-Jul 1882; 16-Mar 1883 3479, Albert Robinson; William, Annie; Elton; Carder; 04-Feb 1888; 11-May 1888 4; Maud Robinson; William, Annie; Elton; Stripper & Grinder; 06-Aug 1890; 12-Sep 1890 528: Harry Robinson; William, Annie; Elton; Stripper & Grinder; 12-Feb 1893; 21-Apr 1893 A Stripper and Grinder worked on one of the machines in the Carding Room of a cotton mill. The record for Edith Ann disagrees with your statement that she appears on the 1881 Census. I would be suspicious of this baptism record as it is a transcript, not mine. Surely, the minister would have recognised a three year old child as not being 8 or 9 months of age!! If I get the chance I will try to check the original register. Your questions about William being dead in 1891 are probably not capable of resolution. As for Harry's father, your explanation is possible. Equally it may not be correct. If Ann Robinson recorded the birth of Harry and stated that her husband's name was William even if he were not the father, then he would have been recorded as the father. A very useful site that explains many of these queries is Barbara Dixon's (http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/indexbd.htm ). You state that William ROBINSON died in 1894 and you have found the record. Is this the death certificate? If so, where did he die and who registered the death? Have you looked at the 1911 Census for 13, Hornby Street, Bury. This property no longer exists, nor does the property in Albion street, Elton. Hope this helps, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hello all Sheila, you need to give folks a hint of where your GALES lived. Also, try posting on the appropriate Lost Friends & Family board (see http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.lostfamilyandfriends/mb.ashx) and consider placing an advertisement in a local paper. If anyone can help Sheila with details about John and Ian, please do so off list. Lynne Sheila Beer <member@smbeer.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > >Looking for John Innes Gale born 1970 and/or his brother Ian Christopher Gale born 1973 > >Thank you >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: linsfam Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52786.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you searched under Nan or Nannie? Or perhaps she used a middle name some years. I had relatives I couldn't find and found some years it was 1st name and some middle name and then back to first name. Good luck. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi Linda In order for the original poster to see your message, it has to be posted on the message board. The start of the thread can be found here: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52785/mb.ashx Kind regards, Lynne Linda <linsfam@myfairpoint.net> wrote: > >Is it possible Joseph was a middle name he went by instead of his first name? > > > > >