Hi Linda That's the old address for RootsWeb's home page, which doesn't work anymore. The home page can now be reached at <https://home.rootsweb.com/> on which you can find links to the message boards, as well as a few other things. Lynne Linda <linsfam@myfairpoint.net> wrote: > >Try https://www.rootsweb.com/ Not sure if it's the same. > > >

Well that's very odd, Rod. I was just on the board a few minutes ago. Please try this URL: <https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/mb.ashx>. I left the "mb.ashx" out of the previous URL. That used to work, but obviously not now. Thanks very much for bringing that to my attention. :-) Lynne Rodney Whale via LANCSGEN <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >Hello Lynne, > >Just in case nobody else has mentioned it, I tried the URL for Lancashire >message boards shown in your message and I got a reply from Ancestry to say >that it is no longer available. > >Regards, Rod.

Try https://www.rootsweb.com/ Not sure if it's the same. On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 14:32:27 +0100, Rodney Whale via LANCSGEN wrote: Hello Lynne, Just in case nobody else has mentioned it, I tried the URL for Lancashire message boards shown in your message and I got a reply from Ancestry to say that it is no longer available. Regards, Rod. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community  

Hello Lynne, Just in case nobody else has mentioned it, I tried the URL for Lancashire message boards shown in your message and I got a reply from Ancestry to say that it is no longer available. Regards, Rod. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hello Jim, Beth and Lynne, Many thanks for replying to my LAWTON enquiry. The scenario is tantalisingly close, but no evidence of a match or indeed contact with the LAWTON family. Any online correspondence seems to stop around 2016....even Twitter 2013. So although I am researching their FH and am back to Liverpool 1881, no surname is helping my cause. Cheers for now, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Lynne [mailto:lklein@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 6:49 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com; lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: LAWTON Surname Hi Robyn If you haven't checked yet, take a look at the Lancashire message board at <https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/localities.britisles.england.lan.general> . There are 145 messages that mention LAWTON. A reference to Wavertree couldn't be found on the LAWTON message board (<https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/surnames.lawton/>), but there are a few references on that board to Liverpool and one post from 2013 announcing the LAWTON Saddleworth DNA Project. Perhaps researchers related in some way to your ancestors? Saddleworth is about 50 miles from Wavertree. It would also be worth posting on RootsWeb's own Bury mailing list. See <https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/details?list_name=eng-lan-bur y>. Good luck! Keep us posted on your progress. Lynne --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Robyn If you haven't checked yet, take a look at the Lancashire message board at <https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/localities.britisles.england.lan.general>. There are 145 messages that mention LAWTON. A reference to Wavertree couldn't be found on the LAWTON message board (<https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/surnames.lawton/>), but there are a few references on that board to Liverpool and one post from 2013 announcing the LAWTON Saddleworth DNA Project. Perhaps researchers related in some way to your ancestors? Saddleworth is about 50 miles from Wavertree. It would also be worth posting on RootsWeb's own Bury mailing list. See <https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/details?list_name=eng-lan-bury>. Good luck! Keep us posted on your progress. Lynne

Hi Robin. Have you tried uploading your Ancestry DNA result to any other DNA site? (You can upload Ancestry results to several other companies, but not the other way round.) My closest match, a third cousin, didn't reply to my Ancestry messages, but I found she was a match on a couple of other sites. She had a list of ancestral surnames on Family Tree DNA and an email address and I was able to work out which branch of my family was the relevant one and contact her. She was also on My Heritage. You don't need to subscribe, just register. I don't think people always pick up Ancestry messages. I have a DNA cousin where I know exactly how she fits into my tree, but I have had no success contacting her. She doesn't appear on the other sites. I have even managed to find her parents on Facebook, but haven't tried contacting them that way yet. Best wishes, Beth.

Hi, Robyn, You have a problem - > I have searched for this match online and have a possible family. > The "old" UK 2000+ Electoral Roll tells me living in Bury Lancashire. > I have emailed this person on Ancestry numerous times without any reply. There is a FaceBook group "Bury Lancashire Genealogy and Family History and DNA" (https://www.facebook.com/groups/254654168295296/ ) that is run by Sharon Bunter. It may be worth contacting that group. Hope this helps, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 19/06/2019 09:05, Robyn Clarke wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm on a DNA wild goose chase (again). Through Ancestry my Test has > resulted in a match to a LAWTON family I believe. It states also there is > no Family Tree and the person concerned hasn't been on Ancestry since 2016.

Hi there, I'm on a DNA wild goose chase (again). Through Ancestry my Test has resulted in a match to a LAWTON family I believe. It states also there is no Family Tree and the person concerned hasn't been on Ancestry since 2016. I have searched for this match online and have a possible family. The "old" UK 2000+ Electoral Roll tells me living in Bury Lancashire. Accountant according to Probate of Father, Ian James Lawton Sr. who died in 2016 in Bury, Greater Manchester. His Father George Parfitt Lawton and Mother, Edith I Copeland. None of these names are known to our ARMITAGE/TRISTRAM/ROBERTSON/ROBERTS, JUMEAUX lines, but my ARMITAGE first cousins have the same match and quite close, as in 2nd cousin. I have emailed this person on Ancestry numerous times without any reply. Would anyone have an interest in the LAWTON families - as I said, I have gone back to Wavetree? Liverpool, 1881. It seems originally from Staffordshire and West Bromwich. 1911 HARRY LAWTON b. 1876 with wife MARGARET Elizabeth DICKINSON m. 1898 living in Wavetree, Liverpool including son GEORGE LAWTON b. 1936. I am trying to find a contact for family research purposes for this Family...... Any help would be much appreciated, Cheers, Robyn Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hello I have no connection with Waterworths but Bedford Lancashire is actually a part of Leigh Lancashire. Leigh was divided into Westleigh , Pennington and Bedford. I was at school with a Maureen in Westleigh in the 40’s & 50’s HTH Pamela Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: goodall_wendy--- via LANCSGEN Sent: 15 June 2019 23:48 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Cc: goodall_wendy@yahoo.com Subject: [LAN] Re: Introducing the WATERWORTHS Hi Jenny, Are you still researching and in particular the Waterworth name? After taking an ancestry.com DNA test I found a minor match with “randycrann” who I contacted and shared some information on my Waterworth connection. He communicated with you years ago and suggested I contact you since you might be more familiar with the Australian connection. My Waterworth connection is as follows: Elizabeth "Eliza" Ann Waterworth b. 1861 Bedford, Lancashire, England ? m. 1888 Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia (Frederick Augustus Munday aka Leslie) d. 1936 East Malvern, Victoria, Australia Is this lady on your tree, are you familiar with her? If so, I would love to communicate with you and hope you are still interested in genealogy. Best regards. Wendy _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Jenny, Are you still researching and in particular the Waterworth name? After taking an ancestry.com DNA test I found a minor match with “randycrann” who I contacted and shared some information on my Waterworth connection. He communicated with you years ago and suggested I contact you since you might be more familiar with the Australian connection. My Waterworth connection is as follows: Elizabeth "Eliza" Ann Waterworth b. 1861 Bedford, Lancashire, England ? m. 1888 Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia (Frederick Augustus Munday aka Leslie) d. 1936 East Malvern, Victoria, Australia Is this lady on your tree, are you familiar with her? If so, I would love to communicate with you and hope you are still interested in genealogy. Best regards. Wendy

Does anyone have any roots to this family? I am looking for James Brassgirdle and Alice who produced Matthew, christened at St. Nicholas in 1782. The name may have been changed to Bracegirdle later on. Julie

Preston Branch Lancashire Family History and Heraldry Society Friday 14th June 2019 Family History Surgery Lancashire Archives Bow Lane Preston PR1 2RE 10am - 12 noon Some members will be on hand to help you with your family research and hopefully help you to knock down your brick walls. Please bring along any relevant paperwork and anything of interest.

On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 03:44, Linda <linsfam@myfairpoint.net> wrote: > Sorry, being American, I thought BT was Bishop's Transcripts, not telephone company. Ooops. Sorry. And of course what you said made sense to me if you'd meant British Telecom! What's that old phrase about "Divided by a common language"? Adrian

If only they were as efficient and well run as Bishop's Transcripts we would be a lot better off! Meg Galley-Taylor

Sorry, being American, I thought BT was Bishop's Transcripts, not telephone company. On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 22:12:04 +0100, Adrian Bruce wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 14:45, Linda wrote: > ... I would think BT would be the most accurate. Electoral rolls should be right within election years. If we mean the BT telephone directory, I would be wary. My father is still listed against the phone at my house but that's simply because I'm no longer a BT customer and it seemed too much like hard work to have his name replaced with mine. And of course, that's ignoring the opposite issue of ex-Directory numbers. Electoral Rolls are updated *every* year - whether people bother to fill in their update form is another matter. Adrian _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

The Electoral rolls being asked about are on Genesreunited Which being a sister company of Findmypast derives its data from the same source, namely 192.com Which is the same data on BT 192 although presented slightly differently So its all the same data as sold to businesses all over, this is the public Electoral Roll and does not include those who "opt out" of the public electoral rolls from the point at which that was an option Both the Electoral Rolls, Telephone books and Directories are compiled but printed later, in the mean time people moved, changed number etc, so none are entirely accurate And all contain mistakes, usually human error ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06/06/2019 22:12, Adrian Bruce wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 14:45, Linda <linsfam@myfairpoint.net> wrote: >> ... I would think BT would be the most accurate. Electoral rolls should be right within election years. > > If we mean the BT telephone directory, I would be wary. My father is > still listed against the phone at my house but that's simply because > I'm no longer a BT customer and it seemed too much like hard work to > have his name replaced with mine. And of course, that's ignoring the > opposite issue of ex-Directory numbers. > > Electoral Rolls are updated *every* year - whether people bother to > fill in their update form is another matter. > > Adrian

On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 14:45, Linda <linsfam@myfairpoint.net> wrote: > ... I would think BT would be the most accurate. Electoral rolls should be right within election years. If we mean the BT telephone directory, I would be wary. My father is still listed against the phone at my house but that's simply because I'm no longer a BT customer and it seemed too much like hard work to have his name replaced with mine. And of course, that's ignoring the opposite issue of ex-Directory numbers. Electoral Rolls are updated *every* year - whether people bother to fill in their update form is another matter. Adrian

My thanks to both John and Linda for their thoughts. I did type a message to them a little while ago but for some reason my server wouldn’t send. Regards, Pauline Sent from my iPad

Occasionally you can get information this way that you'd never otherwise have. I only discovered a great-uncle was gay when I asked my mother why he had been working as a chauffeur for a man who didn't seem in need of one ????. Cue maternal embarrassment and ambiguous language. Me: 'You mean they were lovers?' My mother: 'Well, if you must put it that way...' -- John Lynch > Many people had boarders or could it be a two family home? I would think > BT would be the most accurate. Electoral rolls should be right within election > years. Directories can be wrong by a year or two because the time lapse > between collecting information and printing it. I've had a few errors in > directories. >