This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: infosending1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52848.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Prestwich Registration District certificates are obtainable from... http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/500203/births_marriages_deaths_and_nationality/1144/buy_a_copy_certificate Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: infosending1 Surnames: SOMERVILLE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52851.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hmmm, I thought that your name sounded familiar, we've spoken before, quite a few times. Suggestion, you might want consider slowing down a bit and focusing on one or two items at a time, you seem to be spreading yourself a bit thin. The quick bottom line on this is...Sumi48 not only gave excellent advice, but was also spot on. The answer to your problem with finding David's identity is a spelling error, and the big clue to that is on the certificate of his 1914 marriage to Sarah Wright nee Holland, they were both illiterate, they both signed the marriage certificate with an X,..."his mark...her mark". I'll leave out the investigation part, as I said, the bottom line is...David's correct birth name, and death name, was...David SOMERVILLE. It all starts around 1066 with the Norman French conquest of Britain by William the second Duke of Normandy First aka William the Conquerer aka William the first, King of England. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_conquest_of_England Which is why David was, probably very distantly, as were and are, millions of people in Britain, descended from the nobility, but unlike lots of Brits whose British ancestry may only go back to more recent ancestors who moved to Britain from other countries, David's family have been British for almost a 1000 years. One of William's men was Sir Gualtier de Somerville, and his name comes from his home in Normandy in France, which was either the town of Saint Omer, or one of about three villages with the same name, that's how the name Somerville was created. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerville_(surname) http://thescottishtartans.co.uk/a-z-of-clans-2/clan-somerville/ http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_clans/clan_somerville/history.html http://archive.org/stream/familiesofheadso00came/familiesofheadso00came_djvu.txt As I suspected, the name Somerville is mainly Scottish, after he had conquered Britain, William the first rewarded his knights by granting each of them large areas of land, Sir Gualtier de Somerville and his descendants were given land in the north of England, and later in Scotland. David's parents and siblings, ( at the time of his birth ), were all born in Scotland. David SOMERVILLE was born in the West Derby Registration District of Liverpool between mid November of 1866 and the the end of March 1867, ( parents had, and still have, 6 weeks in which to register a birth, and until more recent years births were recorded in the quarter of the year of registration ). His birth was registered in the first quarter of 1867 Volume 8B Page 263 http://liverpool.gov.uk/births-marriage-deaths/copies-of-certificates/ He died in 1943 as David SOMERVILLE aged 77 in in the Manchester Registration District Volume 8D Page 489 http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/500203/births_marriages_deaths_and_nationality/1144/buy_a_copy_certificate You'll find his birth family in Manchester on the 1871 census at Rowbottom Street Manchester. His dad was called John, he was a watchmaker, and his mum was called Agnes. So lots more relatives for you to lose track of...just kidding :):) 1881 Can't find any of them. ! 1891 Thorn Street Manchester, just David and Agnes and 8 year old nephew John Bates. David is head of household, moulder in ironworks, mum Agnes is a 59 year old widow. 1901 40 Princess Street Prestwich Manchester, David, a moulder, is married to Elizabeth, not her firdt marriage, her previous married surname was Whitney, and they have a bunch of Whitney sons and daughters living with them. 1911, 38 Princess Street Miles Platting Manchester, same again, wife is called Elizabeth Ann. So, both Sarah and David suffered bereavements in middle age, but then they got together, and hopefully had a long and happy marriage. Just like Frank said perhaps... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlSbSKNk9f0 Anyway, I have had a pint of Boddys in their honour, and I'm sure that you know what that is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVMEOG7MtYs No luck at present with Sarah, but get David's death certifiicate and see if she registered the death. You might try this as well, but the fee is £30 a pop... http://www.1911census.org.uk/1939.htm http://www.hscic.gov.uk/register-service Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Walton Davies Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/51680.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Alice Walton (formerly Davies) was Teresa's mother in law. Alice was originally from Bilston, Staffordshire according to the 1911 census. Alice's husband Samuel Wattleworth Walton was from Earlestown. William and his older brother Bertie were born in Manchester, the rest of the Walton children were born in Liverpool. The Walton family were at 2 Acton Street Edge Hill Liverpool on the 1911 census. Here are the seven Walton family members who died in the Durning Road bombing with their relationship to Teresa in brackets. It was basically two households minus the men, William and Harry Walton who must have been away from home:- (1) ALICE WALTON (Teresa's mother in law) died 29/11/1940, aged 70. of 4 Arrow Street, Edge Hill. Widow of Samuel Walton. Died at Ernest Brown Junior Instructional Centre. THERESA EUGENIE WALTON died 29/11/1940, aged 49. Wife of William Henry Walton, of 4 Arrow Street, Edge Hill. Died at Ernest Brown Junior Instructional Centre. WILLIAM WALTON (son of Teresa) died 29/11/1940, aged 11. Son of William Henry Walton, of 4 Arrow Street, Edge Hill, and of Theresa Eugenie Walton. Died at Ernest Brown Junior Instructional Centre. (2) EMMA LOUISA WALTON (brother in law Harry Walton's wife) died 29/11/1940, aged 38. Wife of Harry Walton, of 2 Eastwood Street. Died at Ernest Brown Junior Instructional Centre. BERT SAMUEL WALTON (nephew of Teresa) died 29/11/1940, aged 14. Son of Harry Walton, of 2 Eastwood Street, and of Emma Louisa Walton. Died at Ernest Brown Junior Instructional Centre. TERESA EILEEN WALTON (niece of Teresa) died 29/11/1940, aged 11. Daughter of Harry Walton, of 2 Eastwood Street, and of Emma Louisa Walton. Died at Ernest Brown Junior Instructional Centre. REGINALD KENNETH WALTON (nephew of Teresa) died 29/11/1940, aged 5. Son of Harry Walton, of 2 Eastwood Street, and of Emma Louisa Walton. Died at Ernest Brown Junior Instructional Centre. C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mafiacls Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52851.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: tried it cant seem to find owt Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Walton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/51680.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Flo The memorial record on Ancestry and the website link below mentions all the Waltons who died in the bombing. I've also included another link below showing William's details on the CWGC website:- http://liverpoolremembrance.weebly.com/durning-shelter.html http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3119970/WALTON, WILLIAM C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FCHESHIRE1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/51680.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am so sorry that i have not got through to you sooner!! Computer is having a fit!! I tried yesterday and today whether its due to changes ?On top of that printer is playing up also ! Looks like i will have to see if i can transfer them to my sister inlaw so she can print this info for me. Anyway i,ll try again. I am a little sad due to the stories ,but also over the moon about all this info you have found for me,thank you!! especially the marriage proof what a bonus .!! I have a story to tell even if i do not have photo,sof Lovat st . at least i have maps !! thanks again for your time most appreciated. Does it have info about her son William? he was only about 11yrs . Her Husband died 1947 not long after the war 2yrs to be excact, must have died of a broken heart, wandering now if he was he in the army at the time of the bombings in 1940? Here,s hoping this will be sent ? maybe you will get all 3 messages together? regards Flo Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sumi48 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52851.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Try searching under SOMERVILLE Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52845.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Tina James Fairbrother birth Upholland 24th July 1796 son of James Fairbrother regards james Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mafiacls Surnames: Summerville Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52851/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Im Been Researching My Ancestor Sarah Holland Who Married George Parker Wright In 1893 He Died In 1912 So She Remarried A David Summerville Now When I Look For His Birth / Death Nothing Comes Up At All They Married April 1914 St Luke Church Miles Platting Manchester I Cant Seem To Find Her Death Id Like To Know Did She Die A Summerville Or Did She Remarry ?? Please Help Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hello Eddie The original poster is probably not subscribed to the list. To reply to a post gatewayed from the message board, click on or copy the URL included in the message (in this case, http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52842.2.1.1/mb.ashx and post your replies on the message board. You need to be registered to post, but it's free and all you need is a name and valid email address. Kind regards, Lynne Eddie Lester via <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >My g.grandfather James LESTER (1853) married Anne Jane FOSTER (1855) at >St.ALBANS in Bevington Liverpool in 1874. >ANNE'S parents were William and Alice Ann (BIBBY). Does this coincide with >any part of your research. > >Eddie >----- Original Message ----- >From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >To: <LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 1:57 PM >Subject: Re: [LAN] Looking for parents and grandparents of Jane Foster 1897 > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: Holland1901 >> Surnames: Foster Boyle Harding >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52842.2.1.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Hi Carol >> >> If you an Ancestry sub that includes the Liverpool parish records you can >> download Jane's 1899 baptism under the name Jane Faster. Also the >> Foster/Boyle marriage 1895. The 1918 Harding/Foster marriage is not on >> Ancestry as it appears to have been a registry office marriage so you >> would need to order the certificate for that. GRO link for certificates:- >> >> http://www.gro.gov.uk/GRO/content/certificates/default.asp >> C >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >> above and respond on the board. >> >> <br> >>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52845.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Tina Ann Ashton baptised 10th July 1764 Wigan, Father James Ashton , Mothers Dorothy Ashton Residence district Scholes Wigan Ann married James Fairbrother at Upholland 15th September 1782 Regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mafiacls Surnames: Wright Classification: death Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52850/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Im Trying To Locate A Burial Record For A Child Who Is A Ancestor Of Mine I Looked On Manchester Buriels And Paid For A Record turned Out Wrong One As It Was Same Name But 1912 The Child Im Looking For Called George Parker Wright Born April - May - June 1911 Also On 1911 Census For Living At Albion Street Miles Platting Death Jul - Aug - Sep 1911 All My Ancestors Are Buried In Philips Park Manchester Due To Living Near Area But I Am Unable To Find Paper George Can Someone Help Me Thank You Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/51680.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Attached map showing college/training centre at Durning Road and Clint Road bombed in 1940. C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/51680.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kelly's Directory 1938:- Arrow Street RIGHT SIDE (from Wavertree Road) 4 Walton Mrs Alice & Son, scrap metal drs (see map attached) C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mafiacls Surnames: HOLLAND Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52849/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HELLO I HAVE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE FOR A ANN HOLLAND BORN 4TH AUGUST 1876 FATHER THOMAS HOLLAND I PURCHASED THE WRONG CERTIFICATE NO GOOD TO ME SO IF ANYBODY WHO RELATED TO THIS WOMAN WHO WANTS IT CAN HAVE IT JUST GIVE ME A QUICK MESSAGE Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

My g.grandfather James LESTER (1853) married Anne Jane FOSTER (1855) at St.ALBANS in Bevington Liverpool in 1874. ANNE'S parents were William and Alice Ann (BIBBY). Does this coincide with any part of your research. Eddie ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [LAN] Looking for parents and grandparents of Jane Foster 1897 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Holland1901 > Surnames: Foster Boyle Harding > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52842.2.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Carol > > If you an Ancestry sub that includes the Liverpool parish records you can > download Jane's 1899 baptism under the name Jane Faster. Also the > Foster/Boyle marriage 1895. The 1918 Harding/Foster marriage is not on > Ancestry as it appears to have been a registry office marriage so you > would need to order the certificate for that. GRO link for certificates:- > > http://www.gro.gov.uk/GRO/content/certificates/default.asp > C > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > <br> > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Walton Clark Clarke Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/51680.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This Walton/Clarke 1915 marriage transcript shows the fathers' names, confirming it is the right one:- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFX4-5XR C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Clark Clarke Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/51680.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Confirmation:- Name: Teresia Eugenia Clarke Confirmation Name: Anastasia Confirmation Date: 10 Sep 1905 Parish: St Anne Sponsor's Name: Maria Helman C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davidhansonmp Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/2690.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Richard is my great grandfather--found this by chance ---he is buried with ada his wife in Burnley cemetery -i hope to visit soon-i have a photo of ada and the boys i can send you if you email me or message here my email is davidhansonmp@gmail.com My grandfather was harry-he is on www.livesofworldwarone.org-- search harry Lloyd hanson for info .includes census info Best wishes David hanson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Walton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/51680.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is also an image on Ancestry showing the names and details of the Walton family who were killed in the raid. Ancestry also has a probate record image Teresa. C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>