This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RxCairns Surnames: CROWTHER, ASHWORTH, TOWNEND Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52857.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Marie. Just a few bits from the records: There is a June 1872 marriage in Burnley for Paul Crowther and Mary Ann Ashworth., which suggests this birth record in Lancashire BMD may be George: CROWTHER George ASHWORTH 1874 Newchurch Preston Lancashire NEW/55/56 Lancashire BMD also has this marriage record: CROWTHER George TOWNEND Mary Elizabeth 1903 Bacup, St Saviours Preston Lancashire CE27/2/68 And these births which may match: CROWTHER Annie TOWNEND 1914 Burnley West Preston Lancashire BUW/48/63 CROWTHER Edith Mary TOWNEND 1905 Bacup Preston Lancashire BAC/12/71 CROWTHER George TOWNEND 1904 Bacup Preston Lancashire BAC/11/38 CROWTHER John TOWNEND 1910 Bacup Preston Lancashire BAC/17/13 In the 1911 census, George Crowther is aged 37, born about 1874 in Bacup, and is a Manager in the Hay Straw Coal Liner And Furniture Removing industry. Mary Elizabeth is 35, also born Bacup, and children Edith Mary and John are in the household. They had been married 8 years and 3 children had been born, of whom two were still living. Presumably George is the one who died, as he is not on the census record. If George was a widower when he married Ann Carter Rathbone, then possibly this may be Mary Elizabeth's death: CROWTHER Mary Elizabeth 55 1930 Burnley East Preston Lancashire BUE/83/73 Good luck with your searching for relatives. Kind regards, Rosemary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi.....any chance that a Lee White is subscribed to the list? I understand that he has Alice Hutchinson on his tree on Ancestry, along with photos. I believe Alice to be my great-aunt and would love to share and see the photos he has. I'm only subscribed to the U.S. version of Ancestry. If anyone knows of him, please let me know. Thanks......mary lou

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mlskjk56 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52857.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, it might be that the George who was married to TOWNSEND died during the war. I have searched for additional children of this marriage too, and didn't find any. I am interested in hearing from anyone who knew of the George CROWTHER who was married to Ann CARTER RATHBONE. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52857.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Marie George Crowther , his Children Edith Mary Birth 1905 Bacup Lancashire. John birth 1910 Bacup Lancashire, Annie birth 1914 Burnley East Lancashire. Unable to find any other births re Crowther family I've surfed later of 1914, it might be possible that George Crowther have.died in the first World War Regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52852.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sue 1881 census UK James Clark Birth Scotland 1834 head occupation Coal Miner age 47, abode 724 Atherton Road Hindley Lancashire Wife Sarah Clark (nee Turner) age 45 birth Horwich, near Bolton Lancashire Children. John age 21 birth Manchester, James age 19 birth in Manchester, Mary Ellen age 17 birth in Manchester. William age 12 birth in Manchester. Sarah age 5 birth in Hindley. Thomas age 3 birth in Hindley regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paulinewindfarm Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52788.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Maureen, Sorry that I was not more specific in my names. RICHARD KIRBY married a MARTHA SARAH CROFT in 1915 in Bootle, nr Liverpool. They had 2 children TERESA and LILY KIRBY. MARTHA their mother died in 1917? I have been unable to find out anything about these children at all. I think that they were put into a childrens home when their mother died. I would be interested to know were this children's home may have been?? RICHARD KIRBY then went on to marry my GRANDMOTHER MARTHA REDHEAD in 1921. In Waterloo, Liverpool. They had 5 children FRED / SALLY / FLO / RICHARD / JEAN ( my mum ) I would be interested to find out about the family of my Grandfather RICHARD KIRBY. His parents were a CHARLES & ELIZABETH KIRBY ( nee HOUGHTON ) married 1890 in Liverpool They had 5 children that I know of CELIA b 1893 Married a THOMAS ELLIS QUICK in the March quarter of 1917 They had 2 sons JOHN QUICK b 1918 he may have died in 1950 in Devizes ( yet to be confirmed ) THOMAS QUICK b 1920 - No idea what happened to him at all. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx CHARLES or CHRISTOPHER b 1902 ??? in Waterloo, Liverpool Not too sure of the name. We have never been able to find out anything about these children. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx THOMAS b 1904 He may have married a EMMA FOLLOWS in Leigh in Lancashire 1946? I have only mentioned the following surnames KIRBY / QUICK / HOUGHTON / FOLLOWS As I think it would be too confusing. My apologies for not stating in my first e-mail who I was looking for. It has been sometime since I have done family history, and I lost my way a little bit. Kind regards, Pauline. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dink12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52856.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have noted the property that you are interested in. I suggest you obtain the plans/deeds etc. from Land Registry http://www.uklrs.co.uk/land-registry/ the cost to obtain the documents with postal address is £12 .95 hope this helps Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dink12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52856.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In 1911 Lord Street would have been shown as either West Street or East Street depending on which part of the street you were. To help narrow down the search can you advise where and when the address 77 Lord Street was applied. Was it a shop? if so what was the name and type of shop. If not what building are you researching? what has prompted your research. regards Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mlskjk56 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52857/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information about the George CROWTHER family. None of what I have has been confirmed ... it's just supposition gathered from Ancestry. It may be that George was married to Mary Elizabeth TOWNSEND (1903 - 1930) and they had at least three children. Edith Mary b 1905; John b 1910; Annie b 1914. I do have a marriage certificate for Ann Carter RATHBONE and a George CROWTHER in 1935. George was 61 years of age, a widower, coal secretary and manager. His father was Paul CROWTHER (deceased) Is anyone connected to this George CROWTHER? Regards, Marie in Alberta, Canada Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hello all The process to remove the message from the archives has been initiated and the subscriber, whose computer or email account has been hijacked by a Trojan, has been alerted to the problem. I'm sure you all know not to click on the URL that was included in the message. Thank you for not responding to such posts on the list. Kind regards, Lynne list admin. -----Original Message----- >From: oldrailwaystation42 via <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Aug 10, 2014 4:14 AM >To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com >Subject: [LAN] Easi ly > ><style>I think you must have dozed off too dear said Proiessor Trelawney I would certainly not ></style><p></p><u>i've sent you a Offline message</u><p></p><a href="http://xxxxxxxx <snip> >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Yorkshirerose58 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52856/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Please can anyone tell me who lived in Lord Street, in Fleetwood in 1911. and what they did for to earn a living..sorry I have no details other than the house number of 77..which may not have been relevant in 1911. We are trying to do research on the building..hence the lack of details. Any help would be very much appreciated..Thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pf1623 Surnames: HOLMES DUNBAR Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52855/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would love to hear from descendants of Samuel HOLMES & Ada Maud DUNBAR - who married within Holy Trinity, Hulme, Lancashire, England on the 12 Aug 1893. They had 6 children: Ada Dunbar (1894-1913), Samuel (b~1897), unknown-child (d.<1911), Tom b. 3 Dec 1904, Albert b. 19 Aug 1907 and Edward b. 27 Apr 1910. This family was still in Hulme (Manchester) in 1911. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: serhug Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/49867.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Maureen Thanks for reply,l am not a member of Ancestry so l wonŽt be able to see your tree,so I was wondering if and when you have a moment you could send me the information in an e-mail. I would be really grateful.I would love to hear about William and his family and I can send you information also as l said in my previous message. My e-mail is Olwenash@yahoo.es. I live in Spain and have done so for many years.Anyway l look forward to hearing from you, Bye for now Olwen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mohayes50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/49867.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Olwen, I don't think I have any photos as William died in 1897 after an accident. He had 3 children. I am at present putting the Lunds on a family tree on Ancestry. Have only just started but hopefully you may find it interesting. It is so nice to talk to someone with the same family. Hope to speak again soon. Maureen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: serhug Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/49867.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Maureen ,great to hear from you. I am descended from Joshua Lund born 1863 ,WilliamŽs brother.I would love to know anything you have on the Lund family.I have more or less been able to trace the steps of my great grandfather Joshua and a bit on Frank born 1887 and Henry born 1880 but I have nothing about William . It would be great to hear about anyone in the family,l did get a reply from a member of RichardŽs family but it was only once and since then l have heard nothing. If you would like and information about either Joshua,Frank or Henry l would be more than pleased to pass it on to you.I think this makes us some kind of distant cousins .Looking forward to hearing from you. - .Olwen PS.Have you by any chance any photos of my grat grandfather Joshua with William I have been trying to find one for years through the families of Frank and Henry but without luck. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

<<snipped>> What makes you think he was in the 3rd battalion? I would say given the movements he was in the 1st Battalion <<snipped>> Assuming that Nivard is right about who we're talking about, he appears in the "British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920" collection on Ancestry - as I'm sure you know from your reference to "He was in the 3rd Battalion Loyal North Lancashire according to his record card (service number 18921)" It's important to understand that people can move between battalions (and between regiments even) and the "Statement of Services" for William shows which units within the LNL he served in. The section shows: 3 Bn Attested & Posted 18/12/14 1 Bn Posted 7/4/15 Depot Posted 18/6/15 3rd Posted 26/8/15 (i.e. 3rd Bn) ... 3rd Discharged ... 19/5/16 So he was in the 3rd for training, then he was posted to the 1st in France (and his Medal Index Card shows his date of entry to France to be 7/4/15, i.e. his date of posting). *Presumably* after he was wounded, he was posted to "Depot", which probably isn't a single place but just an organisational term for people still in the regiment but not on the strength of any specific unit. And then he must have recovered sufficiently to be put back into the 3rd until they decided he wasn't going to make a useful soldier any more. Adrian B

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mohayes50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/49867.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, My name is Maureen and I am descended from William Lund 1866 born Barnes Green son of William Lund & Mary Coupe. Don't know if your are still researching the Lund Family, but I may be able to help if you have any questions. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

OK I see where have seen 3rd battalion from his service record However if you check the page you will see he was with the 3rd first, posted to the 1st battalion, wounded then transferred to the 3rd as a telephone orderly as he couldn't handle a rifle Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/08/2014 16:09, Janet Baillie via wrote: > Hi, Here's hoping someone can assist me. > > > > My Great Uncle was wounded at Givenchy in 1915; he had his right thumb shot > off in the action.

It does help a little to give a name you know <g> I assume its William Arthur BELL ? His silver war badge roll entry shows he was a private with the Loyal North Lancs 18921 badge number 93052 enlisted 18th Dec 1914 discharged 19th May 1915 KR 392 XVI wounds whether served overseas = yes His medal card shows he went overseas 7th April 1915 to France 1915 Star Victory British war medals What makes you think he was in the 3rd battalion? I would say given the movements he was in the 1st Battalion The medal rolls may show his unit, they are at Kew, not online At the time he joined up, he may have had some choice as to the regiment, so did he have loyalties to it? had friends in it? earlier family members in it ? By the way the cause of death would be tuberculosis (Phthisis) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/08/2014 16:09, Janet Baillie via wrote: > Hi, Here's hoping someone can assist me. > > > > My Great Uncle was wounded at Givenchy in 1915; he had his right thumb shot > off in the action. > > > > He was discharged to pension as unfit for active service in 1916 and > subsequently died in 1917 of Phthisis pulmonaris (pneumonia) > > > > He was in the 3rd Battalion Loyal North Lancashire according to his record > card (service number 18921) but that was a reserve battalion based in > Felixstowe. I don't seem to be able to find a War Diary for the battalion > probably because it was a reserve battalion. > > > > Question is - who was he with in France when he was fighting and why that > particular regiment? > > > > Hoping someone can assist, I stay hopeful > > > > Janet E Baillie

Hi, Here's hoping someone can assist me. My Great Uncle was wounded at Givenchy in 1915; he had his right thumb shot off in the action. He was discharged to pension as unfit for active service in 1916 and subsequently died in 1917 of Phthisis pulmonaris (pneumonia) He was in the 3rd Battalion Loyal North Lancashire according to his record card (service number 18921) but that was a reserve battalion based in Felixstowe. I don't seem to be able to find a War Diary for the battalion probably because it was a reserve battalion. Question is - who was he with in France when he was fighting and why that particular regiment? Hoping someone can assist, I stay hopeful Janet E Baillie