This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Jackson Wkye Blease Wilson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52864.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Emma's parents Thomas Wilson Wyke and Jane Wyke are living at 4 Gilbert Street Garston in 1911. Along with daughter Ellen Blease Wyke, grandson Thomas Henry Jackson (presumably John and Emma's other son) and a boarder called James Blease who is Jane Wyke's brother. The original image of the marriage of Thomas Wilson Wyke and Jane Blease at St James, Toxteth in 1883 (the one mentioned by Whitesfan1930) is on Ancestry here is a transcript:- Marriage Date: 20 Aug 1883 Parish: Toxteth, St James Name: Thomas Wyke, Horse ?, 11 Clarke Street Age: 21 Father's Name: Edward Wyke, Joiner Spouse's Name: Jane Blease, 26 Clarke Street Age:19 Spouse Father's Name: Joseph Blease, Gardener Witness 1: William Blease Witness 2: Elizabeth Bonney 1881 Census - Blease Family Address: 9 Arthur Street Garston Mary Blease Head F W 51 Laundress Garston, Lancashire, England William Blease Son M 26 Housepainter Allerton, Lancashire, England Joseph Blease Son M 22 Gardener Bromboro, Cheshire, England John Blease Son M 20 Stonemason Allerton, Lancashire, England Jane Blease Daughter F 16 Laundress Allerton, Lancashire, England James Blease Son M 14 Gardener Garston, Lancashire, England Thomas H Blease Son M 12 Scolar Garston, Lancashire, England Baptism: Jul 1863 St Mary, Hale, Lancs. Thomas Wilson Wyke - [Child] of Edward Wyke & Susannah Abode: Speke Occupation: Game Keeper Baptised by: Richd. B. Stewart Register: Baptisms 1842 - 1873, Page 146, Entry 1167 Source: LDS 2045906 Unfortunately 1938 Kelly's Directory of Liverpool doesn't give the residents in Gilbert Street Garston. C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: garystanford1964 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52864.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks that's really helpful, I'd got the names but not the fact John and Emma were lodging at number 10, it seems they were residing in at least 3 houses in Gilbert St which from memory was not that big. Gary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52863.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Link to other thread as enquirer is posting on 2 threads about the 1 subject:- http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52861/mb.ashx C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: madecho173 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52862.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: maybe they went back to Italy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealogist1515 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52861.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: They probably don't have the marriage certificate, the marriage is on familysearch.org with these details. I did not know there was a St.Mary's Church in Kirklinton. Maybe Kirklinton used to be part of Lancaster for some reason? Mary Isabella is my friend's direct ancestor too! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealogist1515 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52861.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much, this is indeed his death. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealogist1515 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52861.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Oh ok! She is related through Henry's daughter Mary Isabella. She found her living on the census and then found her father Henry, and then mother Ann and searched for their marriage. Henry's middle name was stated as William and he was in the army. Then she searched the army records on findmypast.co.uk which tie in with the census to show he was born 1819-1821 in St Mary's, Lancaster. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealogist1515 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52863.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, Indeed, his baptism is a mystery! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealogist1515 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52863.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much. I think my friend has this census, this is where Henry's birth is stated as Kirklinton instead of Lancaster like it usually is. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52863.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There's two threads on this subject it's probably best to use the other one as there's more activity on it. Census info has already been found the enquirer is trying to find a baptism to confirm Henry William Raymond's origins but it's not online. C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Jackson Wyke Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52864.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The parents' marriage was at St Peter's, Liverpool (used to be in Church Street). The original image is available to view on Ancestry here is a transcript:- Marriage Date: 27 Sep 1908 Parish: Liverpool, St Peter Name: John Jackson, Labourer, Fontenoy Street Age: 23 Father's Name: John Henry Jackson, Labourer Spouse's Name: Emma Wyke, Fontenoy Street Age: 20 Spouse Father's Name: Thomas Wilson Wyke, Carter Witness 1: Adam Jackson Witness 2: Elizabeth Ann Jackson In 1911 the family are lodging at 10 Gilbert Street Garston with James & Edith Whiteside & children & boarders Robert & Margaret Byrom:- John Jackson, Lodger, 26, Married, General Labourer, Corporation, Worker, Woolton Lancashire Emma Jackson, Lodger, 22, Married 3 years, 2 children born & living, Speke Lancashire William Jackson, Lodger, 2 months C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52863.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello , hello Henry Raymond Birth 1820 at Kirklinton Cumberland 1871 census residence Liverpool Henry W Raymond head Spouse Ann Raymond Children Elizabeth Charles Emily Thomas Mary Julia. Other resident Mary Sandford regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: garystanford1964 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52864.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just as an add on to confuse matters, which is easy as I'm new to all this. On the 1911 census I have found in one house two Wykes, a Blease Wyke, a Jackson and a Blease, all three names I'm looking for but in various mixes Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Raymond Lennon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52861.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Somebody on Ancestry has a tree for this family. They have a date for the marriage of Henry William Raymond and Anna Maria Lennon of 29 Sep 1845 in County Cork. No father's details which makes me wonder if they have the marriage certificate or not. Also date of birth for Dublin born Mary Isabella Raymond as 19 Apr 1863. They may have that birth certificate. They don't have Henry William Raymond's origins or parentage, they just say born in Cumberland or Lancashire. Baptism records may not be online for wherever he was from. You may want to investigate church records at the Carlisle office of the Cumbria Archive Service for Church of England (CRO Reference PR 156), St. Cuthbert's and St. Mary's, Kirklinton (see info below). http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CUL/Kirklinton/ C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: garystanford1964 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52864.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks I will investigate Gary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52864.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Gary Marriage of Thomas Wyke to Jane Blease 1883 at St James church Toxteth park. I'm not sure this is your research, but still match's your family regards james Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: garystanford1964 Surnames: Jackson, Wyke, Stanford, Blease Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52864/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm looking to find details of my grandparents who lived in Garston between 1900-1930. Their children included Brenda Jackson 1912, James Blease Jackson 1917, May Jackson 1919, Nellie Jackson 1922 and my mother Joyce Jackson 1930, some of whom lived in Gilbert Street up to its demolition in the late 1970's. Other members of the family lived in Highbank Drive. I believe their were other children, definitely William (Willy) and possibly Thomas (Tom). I've had some success with my fathers side of the family, the Stanford's from the Woolton area, but am struggling with the Jackson's in the period between living relatives and the 1911 census. I believe their mothers maiden name was Wyke and their could possibly be the name Blease but I'm not sure. Thanks in advance for any help. Gary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Belindajh Surnames: Bentey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/38851.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Dan; I hope you don't mind if I jump into this discussion. I am a decendent of William Bentley, the third to youngest child of John and Elizabeth Middlefell Bentley. I found the baptism record (Bishop's Record) of John and was disappointed because it only said "John, son of Hannah Bentley with the baptism date of 3 Feb 1811. There is also a Frederick Bentley listed as a child of (Edward and) Hannah Bentley (Johns parents) who passed away at the age of 22 in Rivington, Lanchashire, England. rivington is not far from Salford/Manchester so it is possible that he is 'our' Frederick. He was born in 1812 and died 18 Dec 1838 I have been unable to find a baptismal record for Frederick, but will continue to fine the information to connect Edward, Hannah, Frederick and John.. I was told that the Lancashire area was booming at the turn of the century, so it's possible that Edward and Hannah moved to Salford from somewhere else and we are looking in the wrong place. It sure gets confusing, doesn't it? I have the 1977 Bentley Book as well, but if you have information other than what is in the book or what I have found, would you be willing to share? Thanks, Belinda Harrison Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddie71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52861.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi This could be his death buy the death certificate it could give you some clues like who was with him when he died who registerd the death First name(s) HENRY WILLIAM Last name RAYMOND Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1821 Age 57 Death quarter 4 Death year 1878 District WEST DERBY County Lancashire Volume 8B Page 332 Shelagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sumi48 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52861.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Re the evidence trail....I don't understand how your friend has an ancestor born circa 1820 but doesn't know more about him. To get to my ancestor born 1806, I needed to know my grandfather's details, to get his parents details, etc and this involved searching parish registers and buying birth and marriage certificates. I don't think 'probably married Ann Lennon' helps your friend's research unless there is a reliable trail maybe from family information. Does that make sense? :-) Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>