This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealogist1515 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52863.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much for your help Unfortunately this Henry's baptism isn't Henry William Raymond's; this Henry is located on a census in Liverpool living with his wife Catherine when Henry W. is living with Ann(a.) The 1851 census you mention is the right census for Henry which my friend has along with the death. Thank you very much for the marriage, if Henry was born 1820 or 1821 this could indeed be his parents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Orlando_Littlemoss Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52867.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You do not need a marriage certificate to find the parents - you want her birth registration. As there is a possibility that Ada's mum was not married - The marriage certificate may be blank or have a made up name.for her father. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi, Vern, You seek help with a Preston marriage and you provide the details from LancsBMD, which are helpful. Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1859 CRANGLE Edward KIRBY Elizabeth Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/27/112 This shows that the marriage was solemnised in the Registrar's Office or in a non-Anglican chapel. Between 1837 and 1898, marriages in non-Anglican chapels, Unitarian, Baptist, Methodist, RC, etc, were recognised in law provided the Registrar was in attendance and made the record for the state. In 1898, non-Anglican chapels were permitted to appoint an Authorised Person to act for the Registrar and maintain the civil registers. Many of the Free Church congregations availed themselves of this facility but some, particularly the RCs, were slow to act. The RC s generally adopt this practice from about 1970. The early Catholic Registers for Preston have been transcribed and published by the Catholic Family History Society on a CD. These are the records for St Wilfrid and St Mary which was the earliest RC mission in the town. There was only one mission but it used the two chapels at different times. There is NO record of this marriage on the CD. The original registers are still with the parish priest. There were two other RC chapels in the town by 1859, St Ignatius, and St Walburge. I think the only way to find the details you seek, and the chapel in which the marriage took place is to purchase the certificate. Sorry not to be very helpful, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) -----Original Message----- From: Vern Prescott via Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 4:49 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com . Subject: [LAN] CRANGLE- KIRBY marriage 1859

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52867.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to Lancs BMD marriage was in Cloughfold at Sion Chapel. No more information that I can find online. C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Peterjones1986 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52867/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi any kind sould have Parish registers for possibly Waterfoot Haslinden Area They Married in 1919 Need to know Adas Parent(s) Many thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaureenEdna Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52863.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Could this be Henry William Raymonds Baptism who was born 1821,It looks like three children from the same family were Baptised on the same day so possibly all different birth years. Feb 1825 St Peters,Liverpool Edwin Raymond Child of Henry Raymond and Mary Henry Raymond ( As Above ) Mary Ann Raymond ( As Above) Abode-Standish Street,Liverpool Fathers Occupation-Blacksmith. Baptism 9 July 1825 St Perts,Liverpool Mary Ann Raymond-Child of Henry Raymond and Mary Ann Abode 58 Standish Street,Liverpool Fathers Occupation-Smith Baptism 7 March 1830 St Peters,Liverpool Emma Raymond child of Henry Raymond and Mary Ann Abode-58 Standish Street,Liverpool Fathers Occupation-Furrier Baptism 31 December 1832 St Peters,Liverpool Edward Raymond child of Henry Raymond and Mary Abode-Fontenoy Street,Liverpool. Fathers Occupaion-Blacksmith. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------There is Allerton in Liverpool Bith place Allerton,Lancaster (Think this Error should read Lancashire) Census 1851 Harry William Raymond Burial 5 August 1830 Low Hill Cemetery,Everton Liverpool. Mary Raymond child of Henry Raymond and Mary Ann Age 3 ? 5 Abode Standish Street,Liverpool Burial 23 August 1831 Low Hill Cemetery,Everton,Liverpool Emma Raymond Child of Henry Raymond and Mary Age-19 months Abode-Standish Street,Liverpool Cause of death-Teething. Death 1878 West Derby,Liverpool Henry William Raymond Age 57 b.1821 Approx. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does this mean anything to you. Marriage 22 November 1820 St Peters,Liverpool William Raymond Occupation-Mariner of this Parish Elizabeth Cathness x Spinster Witnesses-Ann Lyon X Sarah Berry X Married by Banns. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Could this be Henry William Raymond's Brother.. 1881 Census 17 Bevington Hill Liverpool Edwin Raymond Head age 58 b.1823 Liverpool.Occupation-Master Painter. Elizabeth Raymond age 61 b.1820 Liverpool. Mary O'Brien Daughter Married age 29 b.1852 Liverpool. Hope this helps in some way. Regards. Maureen. Liverpool.U.K. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Yorkshirerose58 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52856.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Result...have found a probate for the head of household in the 1911 census...giving 77 Lord Street as his address. Thank you both again I wouldn't have known where to begin without your kind and useful help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

I am looking for some help please with the marriage of Edward CRANGLE to Elizabeth KIRBY in Preston in 1859. This appears to be a Catholic marriage. Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1859 CRANGLE Edward KIRBY Elizabeth Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/27/112 If anyone has information on this marriage, would you please send me the details. In particular, I am interested in Elizabeth KIRBY's father. Thanks. Vern in Ontario

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eworld_2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52866.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Which way are you trying to trace. A look at family search suggests he was the son of John and Isabella (nee Pilkington)Metcalf baptised 27 December 1885 at St Thomas' Church Preston. There is only one James Metcalf in FreeBMD born Preston. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealogist1515 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52866.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was unable to find a James born in 1885. However, there are two James Metcalfes born 1882 in Preston. One christened November to James and Ellen - James Edward The other christened in February to William and Emmeline.- James John It looks like James married Ellen Friars 29 April 1882 and his estimated birth is 1860, father Thomas. Ellen's father James. Is any of this of any help? They were both christened in Emmanuel's Church so they may be related. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealogist1515 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52863.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is more evidence pointing toward Lancashire or Lancaster, because his army records also state he was born in Lancaster, St Mary's. Further checks on Allerton parish records show that there are none uploaded online yet as there are many people born in this place on the censuses but no birth records. Perhaps Allerton was close to this 'St Mary's'. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaureenEdna Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52860.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello gnf530, Wonder if you have any of this information ?. Whoops.Think you have this marriage. Marriage March Quarter 1865 Liverpool Henry Fleet wood Keziah Skelding. Ref-Vol 8b Page 177 These are the only Births I could find for Births Sept Quarter 1878 Stourbridge Keziah Skelding Ref-Vol 6c Page 204 Birth June Quarter 1879 Stourbridge Keziah Skelding Ref-Vol 6c Page 220 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skelding Cottage, Bridgnorth St Leonard, Bridgnorth, Shropshire, Thomas Skelding Head age 70 b.1811 Alveley,Shropshire.Retired Medical Practitioner Annie Skelding Wife age 71 b.1810 Claines,Worcestershire James Bradley Servant Single age 25 b.1856 Kidderminster,Worcestershire.Groom & c (Dom) Ann Jones Servant Single age 30 b.1851 WiWilley,Shropshire Elizabeth Reeves Servant Single age 19 b.1862 Madeley,Shropshire.Housemaid. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 Wellington Road, Edgbaston, (Warwick) Kings Norton, Worcestershire Samuel M Coombs Head age 58 b.1823 Birmingham,Warwickshire.Independent Min (No Charge) SecretaryTo a Church Mary Coombs Wife age 60 b.1821 Ireland *Annie E Fleetwood age 15 b.1866 Liverpool,Lancashire. Scholar* Elizabeth Brown Servant Single age 22 b.1859 Woverhampton,Staffordshire..Domestic Servant. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 Bristol Road, Edgbaston,(Warwick), Kings Norton, Worcestershire. George St Clair Head age 44 b.1837 London,Middlesex,.Free Church Minister Edward St ,Chapel Emma St Clair Wife age 44 b.1837 London,Middlesex. *Norman St Clair Son age 15 b.1866 Banbury,Oxfordshire.Scholar.* Oswald St Clair Son age 12 b.1869 Banbury,Oxfordshire.Scholar Hubert St Clair Son age 10 b.1871 London,Middlesex..Scholar. Constance C St Clair Daughter age 6 b.1875 Birmingham,Warwickshire Ruth W St Clair Daughter age 2 b.1879 Norfolk Alice Brooks Servant Single age 19 b.1862 Oxfordshire.Servant Domestic. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 86 Gt Arthur Street, Harborne (Stafford), Kings Norton, Worcestershire. Arthur Skelding Head age 44 b.1837 Cradley,Staffordshire..Occup Shingler (Iron) Elizabeth Skelding Wife age 43 b.1838 Staffordshire Agnes Skelding Daughter Single age 20 b.1861 Staffordshire. Arthur Skelding Son age 15 b.1866 Staffordshire. Isaac Skelding Son age 13 b.1868 Staffordshire. Enoch Skelding Son age 10 b.1871 Staffordshire. Elizabeth Skelding Daughter age 7 b.1874 Staffordshire. *Kesia Skelding Daughter age 2 b.1879 Quarry Bank,Staffordshire. Hope this helps in some way. Regards. Maureen. Liverpool.U K. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52863.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We already know that the census records give two different places of birth. We can't prove where he was born without finding his baptism record. C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealogist1515 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52863.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Note to all: I have recently been discussing the new probability of Henry having been born in Kirklinton, when she reminded be that on the 1851 census his birth was stated as Allerton. What twist does this add to the complex mystery of his birth record? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dfsheppard1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/1173.4768.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Not sure if you still check the boards as it has been so long. Found the father of our Lachlan McTavish from Glassary, Argyll (who was the father of John who married Alice Hamilton). Alexander Hamilton, crofter and Margaret Leitch were John's grandparents. They did have a son named Hugh born 1790 who married Mary McEwan - no son John as Mary died before 1841 but had an Alexander born 1820. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vaughncmarno Surnames: Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52866/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I am trying to trace family of 3922 Pte James Metcalfe of the 8th Bn Royal Irish Regiment who was born in Preston, Lancashire in 1885. James was formally in the North Lancashire Regiment before transferring to the Royal Irish and died of his wounds on the 2nd Nov 1918 having served in Flanders. I would be very grateful if someone could contact me ref James. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kattim127 Surnames: Dunne Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52865/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone tell how to find out who was living in 80 Arlington Street Liverpool 1899/1900? My ancestors were married 13th January 1900 and the Husband James Dunne had used this address on the marriage certificate. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RxCairns Surnames: FLEETWOOD, SKELDING, ST CLAIR Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52860.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I haven't managed to find them in any English census records, using any search strategies. Very puzzling. Finally, I turned to Family Search and put in a search for Ann Fleetwood, parents Henry and Kezia, and found a marriage in Boston in 1887. So I wondered if the whole family had emigrated, and I did find a possible US 1870 census record. The 1870 US census record shows: Henry Fleetwood, born 1841 England. Eliza Fleetwood, born 1848 England Henry Fleetwood, born 1868 England Ann Fleetwood, born 1866 England They were living in New York Ward 19 District 8, New York, New York in 1870. Henry's occupation was insurance agent. In the English records, there is a Keziah Skelding born about 1848, who in 1861 is a servant in the Haycox household in Worcestershire. She was born in Pensax, Worcestershire. There is a possible family match with Thomas Skelding, born about 1807 in Pensax, who was a coal miner and also seemed to give his children Biblical names. I noted that Keziah was a minor at the time of her marriage to Henry in 1865, which would seem to mean she was born after 1844. The Eliza in the New York record would seem to match. However, I don't see a birth record for a Keziah in FreeBMD. Family Search brought up the marriage of an Annie E. Fleetwood, born 1866, parents Henry and Kezia, to Norman B. St. Clair, an English architect, in Boston, Massachusetts on 12 September 1887. Norman was born about 1866 in Banbury, Gloucestershire, and in 1881, his family was living in the civil parish of Edgbaston in Warwickshire. Norman evidently arrived in the US in 1887 - also the year of his marriage, and it appears he and Annie lived in Massachusetts for some time as their first son Aubrey Fleetwood St Clair was born there in July 1889. They travelled back to England in 1891, and then settled in Los Angeles, California. He began naturalization proeedings in 1895 and when he received his naturalization certificate in Los Angeles, California, in 1905, and the witness for him was a Henry Fleetwood. Despite listing her parents as Henry and Kezia, however, Annie stated on her US passport application that she had been born in London, rather than Liverpool, so this may be a red herring :) However, if any of this sounds like it might be a possibility, I am happy to send on the records that I found. Just send me a private message with your email address. Kind regards, Rosemary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Holland1901 Surnames: Jackson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52864.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1891 Census - Jackson Family 9 Priory Street Garston William Jackson 72 General Labourer Featherstone Yorkshire Elizabeth Jackson 67 Halewood Lancashire John Jackson 37 Son W Railway Labourer Halewood Lancashire Elizabeth Jackson 13 GD Scholar Woolton Lancashire Alice Jackson 11 GD Scholar Woolton Lancashire John Jackson 6 GS Scholar Woolton Lancashire C Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: garystanford1964 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52864.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That's great, it was the connection between the Wyke and Blease families that was slightly confusing but the relationship between Jane Wyke (Blease) and James Blease seems to have solved that, thank you. As a child I visited Gilbert Street often but only one house was occupied by the family then. Gary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>