Kathleen, I can only find one other marriage between a Richard Darlington and a Mary to fit in with the birth of their first child -- and that was at Wakefield All Saints 25 Sept 1808-- bride was Mary Schofield and the couple were 'both of this parish' (N.B.Gomersall is not within Wakefield Parish). I notice that one of the witnesses to the Manchester marriage was a Joseph Haslam, no doubt a relative of Mary -- and Richard and Mary do name a son, Joseph (who sadly dies). I do agree though that it is a dramatic change of occupation for Richard if this is the correct marriage. Have you checked for the couples' baptisms? The names of the parents may help -- ie if Mary's mother was an Ellen for instance - then their first daughter was named after Mary's mother. Just a thought. Regards June

If the bride's home was Gomersall in Yorkshire have you tried looking there for a possible marriage, such as : Name: Richard Darlington Spouse's Name: Mary Schofield Event Date: 25 Sep 1808 Event Place: All Saints,Wakefield,York,England From Familysearch.com On 12/07/2019 18:31, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > Richard Darlington -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk

Dear List I have been trying to find the marriage for Richard Darlington (born c1783) and Mary (born (c1783), taken from 1851 census. Their children were all baptised at Bolton-le-Moors as follows: Ellen - bap 28 July 1811 Marianne - bap 23 May 1813 Elizabeth - bap 20 August 1815 (my 2 X great grandmother) Sarah - born 1817 died 1822 Margaret - bap 16 July 1820 Joseph - bap 28 April 1822, died January 1823 Jane - bap 28 April, died June 1822 Sarah - bap 22 September 1828 Richard died on 25 August 1857 and Mary died on 30 August 1857 in Preston, Lancashire. On the 1851 census, the only census where I can find them, Richard gives his place of birth as Chester, Cheshire and Mary's place of birth as Gomersal, West Yorkshire. The only possible marriage I can find is that of Richard Darlington and Mary Haslam on 1 October 1809 in Manchester. Richard's occupation is stated as Hatter in the Register, whereas on the 1851 census and his daughter Elizabeth's marriage certificate his occupation is Engineer. Any help anyone can give on this problem would be much appreciated. Kathleen Wilson Isle of Man

Hi Julie For some reason I couldn't find your message in the list's archives. Did anyone reply? Any idea where wife Alice originated? They may have moved near to her parents. Do you know James BRASSGIRDLE's occupation? Perhaps he can be found in an historical directory. Another thought is that the records are out there but the surname has been mistranscribed. Perhaps if you'll tell us how you found him to be in your tree someone will be able to come up with some ideas. It would also be worth posting to the Liverpool list. Kind regards, Lynne Julie Tadman <julietadman@gmail.com> wrote: >Great stuff. Lynne. Unfortunately I still cannot find any records of >the family I am looking for. I have found records of a James >Brassgirdle and wife Alice, who had four children baptised at St >Nicholas. Matthew 1782, Richard, 1784, Mary Ann 1786 and Alice 1788. > >So far I cannot find any further trace of this family. No births. >deaths or marriages of the parents or children. I am not sure if >there are further records available or they have just not been >digitised as yet. > >Any advice would be most appreciated. > >Regards, > >Julie >Queensland Australia.

Thank you to the people who replied to this request. I have been busy with a nomber of things and have not found the time to reply until now. Sorry for the delay. Vern On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 08:05, Vern Prescott <vprescott@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I am wondering whether anyone on the list has access to Catholic marriages > in Preston area. > > I am interested in the following two marriages: > > 1. Josias WOODS to Jane WALTON > Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1866 > Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers > At Reference > WALTON Jane WOODS Josias Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended > Preston PRESTON/42/50 > > and > > 2. Thomas WOODS to Elizabeth SPALL > Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1895 > Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers > At Reference > WOODS Thomas SPALL Elizabeth Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended > Preston PRESTON/103/88 > > Thank you for any assistance provided. > > Vern > Ontario, Canada > > > >

Susan Riley has posted this information on the Eng-Gen-Events list. In case you didn't see the post, . . . .: LFHHS CHORLEY BRANCH MEETING Thursday 18 July 2019 - 7:30 pm. Astley Hall, Chorley PR7 1XA "Joanne Halliwell - Happy Ever After "July once more finds us in the wonderful Astley Hall where we again meet BETSY. First coming to us as a scullery maid (perhaps a little naive, but extremely funny), she has now most definitely come up in the world and will no doubt tell us how she managed to do so. "No charge for admission but donations to The Friends of Astley Hall will be very much appreciated. "A raffle will be held during the evening, and as usual for our summer meeting, Strawberries and Cream will be available, with donations very much appreciated. "Our meeting is open to everyone, whether members of LFHHS or not, but if you are interested in family history, come and meet us, and find out what membership of the LFHHS offers. "Application forms to join the Society will be available, please just ask. "For further details of our branch see www.lfhhschorleybranch.com "For opening times of the Family History Research Centre in Astley Hall Farmhouse please see www.cfhrc.com" To add to this, if your ancestors were miners in the area, you will be interested in this from the Chorley Branch website at <http://www.lfhhschorleybranch.com/encyclopaedia-of-mining.html>: "The Chorley Heritage Group has recently acquired a collection of 28 lever arch files containing an ‘Encyclopaedia of Mining’. Chorley Family History Research Centre agreed to give this wonderful resource a home in our Library. "This collection is primarily in two parts. The first being details of collieries and pits throughout England – whilst not totally comprehensive, it primarily covers Lancashire but then spreads out through the country. This contains pictures, maps of mine locations and mine workings, geological plans, and descriptions of the collieries and mines. The second part is transcriptions of newspaper articles detailing accidents and fatalities associated with the mines. "The whole collection is hand written and drawn and represents the life work of a very dedicated gentleman. "We are currently digitising and indexing the collection making it fully searchable and viewable on our computers."

'The Beckoning of the West' sounds very interesting and useful, June. Thanks for letting us know about it. Lynne June Dowling <june.dowling@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >Thank you for this information Lynne. I hadn't known about this website and look forward to exploring it. > >I have Methodist ancestors from Accrington - and some years ago I read a really fascinating book entitled 'The Beckoning of the West' ... 'An account of how Methodism first found it's way into Lancashire, then spread Westwards'.. by Norman Cunliffe. > >It is full of information of how the circuits were formed - starts from the Pennines and names some of the people involved in the various townships as the word spread Westwards across the County. There are a few copies of early Membership Lists as well. > >It is mainly involved with the North of the County - from Yorkshire, through Todmorden, Colne, Blackburn, Preston to Poulton and Blackpool and the places between. If you have Methodist ancestors it really is a fascinating and enlightening book. > >June

If you're researching Methodist ancestors, The Methodist Heritage site might be helpful. Discussed on the site are where to find local church and circuit records, locations of Methodist church archives, and certificates of baptism, as well as where to find information about officers and ministers of the church and other information. See <http://www.methodistheritage.org.uk/research-family.htm> Happy searching! Lynne

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Do you know anyone who was stationed in York during WW2? The Borthwick Institute for Archives has a fully digitised and transcribed Forces Canteen Visitors’ Book. See if you can find them at <https://borthcat.york.ac.uk/index.php/mr-y-wc-47>. Lynne

Hello all The Ormskirk and District Family History Society have uploaded a video to YouTube which might interest you: A Brief Tour Of Bickerstaffe. It can be found at https://tinyurl.com/y3lycqk6 Links to the Society's other videos can be found at https://tinyurl.com/y4dcrbqs Lynne

Great stuff. Lynne. Unfortunately I still cannot find any records of the family I am looking for. I have found records of a James Brassgirdle and wife Alice, who had four children baptised at St Nicholas. Matthew 1782, Richard, 1784, Mary Ann 1786 and Alice 1788. So far I cannot find any further trace of this family. No births. deaths or marriages of the parents or children. I am not sure if there are further records available or they have just not been digitised as yet. Any advice would be most appreciated. Regards, Julie Queensland Australia. On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 22:31, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > > According to Dick Eastman's blog, on a well known commercial site there are now "...over 6.4 million new records and newspaper articles available to search..." including "... 264,000 new and exclusive parish records that have been digitised and made available online for the first time in association with the Lancashire Archives." The records are comprised of Liverpool baptisms, marriages and banns, and burials. New newspapers (163,404 new pages)have also been added to the site. > > See <https://tinyurl.com/y5g7syxx> for the story. > > Happy hunting! > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi, Vern, You ask - > I am wondering whether anyone on the list has access to Catholic marriages in Preston area. Sadly, Preston sits in a doughnut of transcribed Catholic registers. About a century ago, the Catholic Record Society transcribed and published many of the registers from Catholic missions on the Fylde and two to the south of Preston. More recently, the Lancashire FHHS has published others from around Preston. In this century the Lancashire On-Line Parish Clerk project has published Catholic registers from the Diocese of Salford (the Hundred of Blackburn). The only registers from Preston that have been published are from St Mary and St Wilfrid for the period 1768 – 1915. These were transcribed by a team led by Margaret Purcell in the early 1990s and have been published on CD by the Catholic FHS, (“St Wilfrid with St Mary RC Parish, Preston, .Baptism, Marriage & Death Registers 1763 – 1915” pub Catholic Family History Society 2012). I have checked this CD and neither of the two marriages is listed. There were seven Catholic churches in Preston in 1866 - St Mary, from 1761 St Wilfrid from 1793 St Ignatius from 1833 St Augustine from 1838 St Walburge from 1850 St Joseph from 1861 English Martyrs from 1863 The early registers of St Mary and of St Wilfrid are still with the Parish Priest of St Wilfrid. The early registers of the other churches have been deposited in Lancashire Archives (details in its on-line catalogue). There would be other churches just outside the town where marriages would be included in the Registrar's records. Authorised Persons for marriages were only established in 1898 and, in general, Catholic churches did not have them until after 1960. Sorry not to be more help, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 25/06/2019 13:28, Vern Prescott wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I am wondering whether anyone on the list has access to Catholic marriages > in Preston area. >

Vern What makes you think that they are Catholic Either could be any denomination or in the register office. I would suggest contacting Lancashire archives or check their online catalogue If it is catholic not many will be in the normal archives and many are still in fact with the churches themselves You might be better of checking the local newspapers Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust - https://www.halsted.org.uk Research website - https://www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Vern Prescott <vprescott@gmail.com> Sent: 25 June 2019 13:28 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Catholic marriages in Preston Hi Everyone I am wondering whether anyone on the list has access to Catholic marriages in Preston area. I am interested in the following two marriages: 1. Josias WOODS to Jane WALTON Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1866 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference WALTON Jane WOODS Josias Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/42/50 and 2. Thomas WOODS to Elizabeth SPALL Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1895 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference WOODS Thomas SPALL Elizabeth Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/103/88 Thank you for any assistance provided. Vern Ontario, Canada _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

You could try www.nwcatholichistory.org.uk, I'm sure you will not be disappointed. -----Original Message----- From: Vern Prescott <vprescott@gmail.com> Sent: 25 June 2019 13:28 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Catholic marriages in Preston Hi Everyone I am wondering whether anyone on the list has access to Catholic marriages in Preston area. I am interested in the following two marriages: 1. Josias WOODS to Jane WALTON Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1866 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference WALTON Jane WOODS Josias Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/42/50 and 2. Thomas WOODS to Elizabeth SPALL Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1895 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference WOODS Thomas SPALL Elizabeth Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/103/88 Thank you for any assistance provided. Vern Ontario, Canada _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

According to Dick Eastman's blog, on a well known commercial site there are now "...over 6.4 million new records and newspaper articles available to search..." including "... 264,000 new and exclusive parish records that have been digitised and made available online for the first time in association with the Lancashire Archives." The records are comprised of Liverpool baptisms, marriages and banns, and burials. New newspapers (163,404 new pages)have also been added to the site. See <https://tinyurl.com/y5g7syxx> for the story. Happy hunting! Lynne

Hi Everyone I am wondering whether anyone on the list has access to Catholic marriages in Preston area. I am interested in the following two marriages: 1. Josias WOODS to Jane WALTON Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1866 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference WALTON Jane WOODS Josias Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/42/50 and 2. Thomas WOODS to Elizabeth SPALL Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1895 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference WOODS Thomas SPALL Elizabeth Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/103/88 Thank you for any assistance provided. Vern Ontario, Canada

Perhaps, difficulty in finding the URL is the result of semantic confusion. This is a "mailing list", not a "message board". A difference between the two is that messages posted to boards are passive; they just stay on the board until someone chooses to read them. A mailing list is active; posted m-rt_/)essages get sent out to subscribers. -rt_/)

Hi Lynne, I thought the problem may have been with my server........I too couldn't open the pages and had the same response as Rod:-)) But thank you for trying to help, I'm still at a loss with this LAWTON family, albeit I've gone back 5 generations. Cheers, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Lynne [mailto:lklein@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 12:16 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Cc: Rodney Whale Subject: [LAN] Re: LAN message board Well that's very odd, Rod. I was just on the board a few minutes ago. Please try this URL: <https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/ mb.ashx>. I left the "mb.ashx" out of the previous URL. That used to work, but obviously not now. Thanks very much for bringing that to my attention. :-) Lynne Rodney Whale via LANCSGEN <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >Hello Lynne, > >Just in case nobody else has mentioned it, I tried the URL for Lancashire >message boards shown in your message and I got a reply from Ancestry to say >that it is no longer available. > >Regards, Rod. _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hello Lynne, Thanks for the reply, the amended URL does work, so all your followers can breath sighs of relief. Regards, Rod. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus