You probably need to refresh the page - you will be seeing a cached version. Usually <Control> R on a desktop browser. On 23/07/2019 19:11, Peter Metcalfe wrote: > It's still showing £10 for me. > > Peter > > > On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:34:26 +0100, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk

Did you add it to your basket and view said basket, I tested two and it shows £1.50 each Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/07/2019 19:11, Peter Metcalfe wrote: > It's still showing £10 for me. > > Peter

It's still showing £10 for me. Peter On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:34:26 +0100, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > No Peter, I checked earlier and they were £1.50 > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 23/07/2019 15:20, Peter Metcalfe wrote: > > I noticed that a soldiers will is still £10. > > > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

No Peter, I checked earlier and they were £1.50 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/07/2019 15:20, Peter Metcalfe wrote: > I noticed that a soldiers will is still £10. > > Peter

I noticed that a soldiers will is still £10. Peter

I ordered some last night and thought that they were cheap compared with last time. At one point I though that I'd made a mistake. At that price I'll be ordering a lot more than I have in the past. Thanks for confirming I'm not going mad. Howard -----Original Message----- From: Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> Sent: 23 July 2019 14:00 To: Undisclosed recipients: Subject: [LAN] Probate Registry reduces prices The cost of obtaining a will from the Probate Registry has been reduced to 1.50 for downloaded copies. From <https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate>: "Find a probate record, also known as a grant of representation , for someone who died after 1857. "Probate gives someone the legal right to deal with a deceased person s property, money and possessions (their estate ). "A new probate record will be online approximately 14 days after probate has been issued. "There s a different process in Scotland and Northern Ireland. "You can use this service to: - search for a probate record in England and Wales - check if probate has been issued - check the type of probate issued - order a copy of a probate record (including a will, if there is one) "Each copy of a probate record ordered online costs 1.50. "It can take up to 10 working days for you to receive your documents. "Before you start "Wills and probate records from 1858 to 1996 "If you cannot find the record you re looking for, check the years after the person died. These records are stored under the year the grant was issued, rather than the year of death. "To find the will of someone who died in the early 1990s, you may need to check the records that cover 1996 onwards. "Not all probate records contain a will. Check the type of grant of representation when you search. "The grant types that contain a will include: - Probate or Grant and Will - Admon with Will or Grant and Will " Administration (Admon) or Grant does not contain a will. "Search for a probate record by post Download and fill in form PA1S to search for a probate record by post. Send it to the address on" the form. "It costs 1.50 for a search by post. This includes a copy of the probate record and will (if there is one). "You should get a response within 4 weeks. "If the person died in the last 6 months "Probate may not have been granted yet. You can use form PA1S to ask to be sent a copy of a probate if it s granted in the next 6 months. This is called a standing search . It costs 10. "You can extend the standing search after 6 months." Happy searching! Lynne _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks for that Lynne: very interesting. Regards, Penny On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 2:00 PM Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > > The cost of obtaining a will from the Probate Registry has been reduced to £1.50 for downloaded copies. > > > From <https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate>: > > "Find a probate record, also known as a ‘grant of representation’, for someone who died after 1857. > > "Probate gives someone the legal right to deal with a deceased person’s property, money and possessions (their ‘estate’). > > "A new probate record will be online approximately 14 days after probate has been issued. > > "There’s a different process in Scotland and Northern Ireland. > > "You can use this service to: > > - search for a probate record in England and Wales > - check if probate has been issued > - check the type of probate issued > - order a copy of a probate record (including a will, if there is one) > > "Each copy of a probate record ordered online costs £1.50. > > "It can take up to 10 working days for you to receive your documents. > > "Before you start > "Wills and probate records from 1858 to 1996 > > "If you cannot find the record you’re looking for, check the years after the person died. These records are stored under the year the grant was issued, rather than the year of death. > > "To find the will of someone who died in the early 1990s, you may need to check the records that cover 1996 onwards. > > "Not all probate records contain a will. Check the type of grant of representation when you search. > > "The grant types that contain a will include: > > - ‘Probate’ or ‘Grant and Will’ > - ‘Admon with Will’ or ‘Grant and Will’ > > "‘Administration (Admon) or Grant’ does not contain a will. > > "Search for a probate record by post > > Download and fill in form PA1S to search for a probate record by post. Send it to the address on" the form. > > "It costs £1.50 for a search by post. This includes a copy of the probate record and will (if there is one). > > "You should get a response within 4 weeks. > > "If the person died in the last 6 months > > "Probate may not have been granted yet. You can use form PA1S to ask to be sent a copy of a probate if it’s granted in the next 6 months. This is called a ‘standing search’. It costs £10. > > "You can extend the standing search after 6 months." > > Happy searching! > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

The cost of obtaining a will from the Probate Registry has been reduced to £1.50 for downloaded copies. From <https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate>: "Find a probate record, also known as a ‘grant of representation’, for someone who died after 1857. "Probate gives someone the legal right to deal with a deceased person’s property, money and possessions (their ‘estate’). "A new probate record will be online approximately 14 days after probate has been issued. "There’s a different process in Scotland and Northern Ireland. "You can use this service to: - search for a probate record in England and Wales - check if probate has been issued - check the type of probate issued - order a copy of a probate record (including a will, if there is one) "Each copy of a probate record ordered online costs £1.50. "It can take up to 10 working days for you to receive your documents. "Before you start "Wills and probate records from 1858 to 1996 "If you cannot find the record you’re looking for, check the years after the person died. These records are stored under the year the grant was issued, rather than the year of death. "To find the will of someone who died in the early 1990s, you may need to check the records that cover 1996 onwards. "Not all probate records contain a will. Check the type of grant of representation when you search. "The grant types that contain a will include: - ‘Probate’ or ‘Grant and Will’ - ‘Admon with Will’ or ‘Grant and Will’ "‘Administration (Admon) or Grant’ does not contain a will. "Search for a probate record by post Download and fill in form PA1S to search for a probate record by post. Send it to the address on" the form. "It costs £1.50 for a search by post. This includes a copy of the probate record and will (if there is one). "You should get a response within 4 weeks. "If the person died in the last 6 months "Probate may not have been granted yet. You can use form PA1S to ask to be sent a copy of a probate if it’s granted in the next 6 months. This is called a ‘standing search’. It costs £10. "You can extend the standing search after 6 months." Happy searching! Lynne

This sounds so interesting, I wish I could attend. Thanks for telling us because it highlights the brilliant work that goes on often 'unseen', and unappreciated - until we need it! Warm regards, Ruth in Brum. (Birmingham, England.) On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 at 15:03, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > Another subscriber has alerted me to a talk which anyone with St. Helens > ancesters might find interesting. > > The Windleshaw Chantry is among the oldest structures in St Helens and > dates back to the 15th century. > > Ned Forsyth leads the group that is spending countless hours of > painstaking research which have helped shed new light the origins of one of > St. Helens’s most historic buildings. Their work involves carefully > identifying the thousands of graves buried in the grounds and restoring > headstones and graves. > > During the research, the exact date of the chantry’s opening was uncovered > as June 21 1415. A copy of a letter from the Bishop of Coventry and > Lichfield which allows mass to be celebrated at the chantry from that date. > > The group has a very interesting page on Facebook -- Chantry St Helens -- > with plenty of photos of the work being done. > > Ned Forsyth will be speaking at Momo's Cafe, 64-68 Westfield St, St. > Helens WA10 1QJ, at 11 am on July 24 to present a talk on the Chantry > (Abbey). Ned stated, "So if you would like to know more about our oldest > building and the history of some of those that are buried there, why not > come along." > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, > and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word > UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Another subscriber has alerted me to a talk which anyone with St. Helens ancesters might find interesting. The Windleshaw Chantry is among the oldest structures in St Helens and dates back to the 15th century. Ned Forsyth leads the group that is spending countless hours of painstaking research which have helped shed new light the origins of one of St. Helens’s most historic buildings. Their work involves carefully identifying the thousands of graves buried in the grounds and restoring headstones and graves. During the research, the exact date of the chantry’s opening was uncovered as June 21 1415. A copy of a letter from the Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield which allows mass to be celebrated at the chantry from that date. The group has a very interesting page on Facebook -- Chantry St Helens -- with plenty of photos of the work being done. Ned Forsyth will be speaking at Momo's Cafe, 64-68 Westfield St, St. Helens WA10 1QJ, at 11 am on July 24 to present a talk on the Chantry (Abbey). Ned stated, "So if you would like to know more about our oldest building and the history of some of those that are buried there, why not come along." Lynne

Oh, I didn't take it that way, June! I'm sorry if I sounded like I did. I was just explaining why I did it. And you're very welcome! June Dowling <june.dowling@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > >Oh Lynne -- I wasn't 'ticking you off' -- I was thanking you for going to all that trouble and ticking the rest of us off for not doing!! > >June > >

Oh Lynne -- I wasn't 'ticking you off' -- I was thanking you for going to all that trouble and ticking the rest of us off for not doing!! June On Thursday, 18 July 2019, 19:21:29 BST, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: Hi June Yes, I know we could all check for ourselves, but wonder if many of us do that.  I keep forgetting.  I just happened to see a post on the message boards about the site and thought it would be a good idea to take a look at the additions and remind others.  I was very pleased to see some BUSKEY additions, my main name of interest. If anyone is very good about checking for updates, they can just delete my post and accept my congratulations for being so on top of things.  Wish I could do the same! Kind regards, Lynne

Hi June Yes, I know we could all check for ourselves, but wonder if many of us do that. I keep forgetting. I just happened to see a post on the message boards about the site and thought it would be a good idea to take a look at the additions and remind others. I was very pleased to see some BUSKEY additions, my main name of interest. If anyone is very good about checking for updates, they can just delete my post and accept my congratulations for being so on top of things. Wish I could do the same! Kind regards, Lynne June Dowling <june.dowling@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >Good gracious Lynne -- what a long list you have provided. Thank you so very much for going to all that trouble. It seems a shame as we could check on the Lancs OPC site ourselves under 'What's New'. > >We'll be getting lazy if you keep doing this for us! Thank you again. > >Regards June >

From John Marsden, Webmaster of www.lancashirebmd.org.uk, www.cumbriabmd.org.uk, www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk, www.mlfhs.org.uk June 17, 2019: Added 31,028 Deaths for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1974-1978) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson, Phil Wharram and their team. June 22, 2019: 31,393 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1995-2006) 7,460 Deaths for Bury RD comprising Ramsbottom (1938-1974) 2,337 Marriages for Bury RD comprising Elton, All Saints (1973-2000) Elton, St.Stephen (1973-1991) Holcombe, Emmanuel (1984-1997) Prestwich, St. Margaret (1981-1995) Ainsworth, Christ Church (1989-2012) Bury, St.Mary (1977-2000) Bury, St.Peter (1976-1992) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson, Phil Wharram and their team and to tony Foster and his team. July 1, 2019: Added 1,260 Marriages for Bolton RD comprising: Horwich, Independent Methodist Chapel, Lee Lane (1976-1992) Bolton, St Matthew (1953-1992) Bolton, Wesleyan Chapel, Seymour Road, Astley Bridge (1970-1992) Bolton, Unity Church, Deane Road (1968-1983) Bolton, Victoria Hall, Knowsley Street (1958-1992) Outwood, Emmanuel Church, Folds Road (1924-1981) Bolton, Bethel Church, Albert Place, Clarence Street (1948-1991) Bolton, St Columba's Church, Ripley Street (1974-1992) Bolton, Congregational Church, Red Lane (1974-1991) Westhoughton, Sacred Heart Church, Lord Street (1977-1992) Horwich, St Catherine (1972-1992) Bolton, St Aidan, Hall i'th Wood (1973-1992) Thanks are due to Graham Holt for the above. July 12, 2019 Added 28,171 Deaths for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1999-2007) Added 1,880 Marriages for Chorley RD comprising: Chorley, Trinity Methodist Church (Gillibrand Walks) (Gillibrand Walks), registers at Preston (1976-1976) Coppull, Methodist Church (Spendmore Lane) (Spendmore Lane), registers at Preston (1976-1983) Croston, Trinity Methodist Church (1976-1984) Eccleston, Methodist Church (1976-1998) Euxton, Methodist Chapel (1977-1982) Heskin, Methodist Chapel (1978-1984) Hoghton, Methodist Chapel (1977-1977) Mawdesley, Methodist Chapel (1976-1984) Whittle-le-Woods, Methodist Church (1977-1989) Chorley, Methodist Church (Park Road) (Park Road), registers at Preston (1976-1986) Croston, Chapel of The Holy Cross R.C. (1976-1980) Mawdesley, SS Peter & Paul R.C. (1976-1981) Whittle-le-Woods, St Chad's R.C. Chapel (1976-1977) Chorley, Park St Chapel (1977-1978) Chorley, United Reformed Church (Hollinshead Street) (Hollinshead Street) , registers at Preston (1976-1976) Adlington, United Reformed Church (1976-1989) Bretherton, Ebenezer Congregational Church (South Road) (South Road), registers at Preston (1978-1993) Rivington, Presbyterian Chapel (1977-1982) Chorley, Kingdom Hall Friday St (Jehovah's Witness) (Jehovah's Witness), registers at Preston (1976-1990) Withnell Fold, Methodist Chapel (1976-1993) Preston Monthly Meeting House (1979-1986) Chorley, Methodist Church (Eaves Lane) (Eaves Lane), registers at Preston (1976-1992) Adlington, Methodist Church (1985-1999) Brinscall, Hillside Methodist Chapel (1976-1977) Bretherton, Methodist Chapel & Sunday School (1980-1982) Coppull, Methodist Church (Preston Road) (Preston Road), registers at Preston (1977-1982) St Lawrence, Chorley (1976-1992) St Peter, Chorley (1976-1985) Parish Church, Coppull (1976-1976) St John The Divine, Coppull (1976-1989) St Michael, Croston (1976-1982) St Mary The Virgin, Eccleston (1976-1981) Parish Church, Euxton (1976-1984) St Barnabas, Heapey (1976-1984) Holy Trinity, Hoghton (1976-1991) St Peter, Mawdesley (1976-1976) St Paul, Adlington (1976-1977) The Chapelry, Rivington (1976-1977) St John The Evangelist, Whittle-le-Woods (1976-1979) St Paul, Withnell (1976-1995) St John The Baptist, Bretherton (1976-1984) St James, Brindle (1976-1986) Christ Church, Charnock Richard (1976-1983) St George, Chorley (1976-1977) St James, Chorley (1976-1986) Chorley Register Office or Registrar Attended (1976-1977) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson and Phil Wharram and their team and to Tony Foster and his team. ~ ~ ~ ~ Many thanks to John and all of the volunteers and contributors to LancashireBMD. Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

Good gracious Lynne -- what a long list you have provided. Thank you so very much for going to all that trouble. It seems a shame as we could check on the Lancs OPC site ourselves under 'What's New'. We'll be getting lazy if you keep doing this for us! Thank you again. Regards June On Wednesday, 17 July 2019, 15:35:29 BST, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: Lancs OPC (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/) have been very busy bees: *

Lancs OPC (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/) have been very busy bees: **11 July 2019** Baptisms 1792 to 1837 from Stamford St Methodist New Connexion in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Burials 1879 to 1888 from Heaton Cemetery, Bolton Admissions male 1876 to 1901 and female 1879 to 1908 from Burnley Workhouse Marriages 1872 to 1918 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Joseph, Heywood Marriages 1947 to 1968 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of Darwen Marriages 1930 to 1943 from the Church of St Thomas, Golborne Burials 1741 to 1782 from the Church of St James (formerly St Thomas), Gorton, Manchester Baptisms 1869 to 1872 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Francis of Assisi, Gorton, Manchester Burials 1874 to 1888 from the Church of St Margaret of Antioch, Hollinwood Baptisms 2007 to 2018 and Burials 2000 to 2018 from the Church of St Michael, Hoole Baptisms 1867 to 1870 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Edward, Lees Baptisms 1867 to 1870 from Zion, Methodist New Connexion, Lees Marriages 1815 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Baptisms 1845 and Marriages 1789 from the Collegiate Church, Manchester Adds the months of July to December to complete Baptisms for the year 1845 Adds the months of January to July to complete Marriages for the year 1789 Marriages 1900 to 1928 from All Saints, Newton Heath, Manchester Burials 1773 to 1784 from the Church of St Mary, Oldham Baptisms 1856 to 1861 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary, Oldham Banns 1881 to 1883 from the Church of St Chad, Rochdale Marriages 1882 to 1896 from the Church of St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland Replacing the previous index of these Marriages with the full details Marriages 1887 to 1890 from the Church of St Elphin in the Parish of Warrington **11 June 2019** Marriages 1877 to 1887 from the Church of St Elphin in the Parish of Warrington Banns 1897 to 1912 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Peter, Greengate Baptisms 1825 to 1837 from Ebenezer Independent, Calderbrook, in the Town of Rochdale Marriages 1891 to 1905 from the Church of St Peter, Newbold, in the Town of Rochdale Burials 1788 to 1794 and 1812 to 1837 from Ebenezer Particular Baptist, Bacup Baptisms 1960 to 2007, Confirmations 1983 to 2017, Banns 1970 to 2018 and Marriages 2001 to 2017 from the Church of St Michael, Hoole Baptisms 1867 to 1870 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Patrick, in the District of Collyhurst, Manchester Marriages 1895 to 1917 from the Church of St James (formerly St Thomas), Gorton, Manchester Marriages 1903 to 1916 from the Church of George the Martyr, Gorton, Manchester Baptisms 1874 to 1882 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Francis of Assisi, Gorton, Manchester Marriages 1871 to 1877 from the Church of St Paul, Bury Baptisms 1816 to 1837 and Burials 1816 to 1837 from Central Wesleyan Methodist, Bury Baptisms 1803 to 1837 from Park Chapel, Walmersley, in the Parish of Bury Baptisms 1823 to 1837 from Mereclough Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Cliviger, in the Parish of Burnley Burials 1755 to 1837 from Tottlebank Baptist, Tottlebank, Colton Baptisms 1927 to 1949, Marriages 1943 to 1957 and Burials 1929 to 1953 from the Church of St Thomas, Golborne Banns 1856 to 1875 and Marriages 1749 to 1770 and 1859 to 1866 from the Church of St James, Accrington Baptisms 1596 to 1616, 1638 to 1653 and 1662 to 1749, Marriages 1596 to 1616, 1616 to 1639 and 1663 to 1749, and Burials 1596 to 1615, 1638 to 1653, and 1662 to 1749 from the Church of St James, Altham The register for Burials 1662 to 1749 has been updated to contain some additional entries Baptisms 1685 to 1766 from the Church of St Mary, Walton-on-the-Hill Baptisms 1783 to 1791 and Burials 1734 to 1813 from the Church of St George, Derby Square, Liverpool Marriages 1813 to 1815 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Baptisms 1809 to 1837 from Bryar St Chapel, Lancaster Baptisms 1845 to 1859 from the Church of St Thomas, Lancaster Baptisms 1837 to 1857 from Trinity URC (formerly High St Chapel), Lancaster Baptisms 1788 to 1837 from Wesley Chapel, Colne in the District of Pendle Baptisms 1870 to 1918 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary, Osbaldeston Baptisms 1774 to 1812 from the Church of St Michael in the Parish of Whitewell Baptisms 1877 to 1879 from the Church of St Mary, Oldham Completes the register for Baptisms 1875 to 1879 Marriages 1815 to 1817 from the Parish Church of St Peter, Bolton This Register, which previously presented only an index, is now updated to include the full details from the Parish Register Happy searching! Lynne

Hi Kathleen -- Unfortunately I can't take the credit for finding a baptism for a James Hargreaves Darlington in Manchester -- it must have been Bob or someone else. (Shucks!!) Regards June On Tuesday, 16 July 2019, 23:28:22 BST, Kathleen Wilson <wilsonro@manx.net> wrote: Many thanks to Bob and June for their helpful replies.  June thank you for pointing out about the baptism of Jas Hargreaves Darlington in Manchester.  It is so easy to forget the basics of checking when trying to find a match.  At least I can now discount Mary Haslam. I am beginning to think that Mary may have been born in Gomersal and then the family moved to Wakefield from where she was married.  After marriage Richard and Mary could have moved to Bolton.  However, this is all conjecture at the moment with no real foundation. There is a baptism at St John, Wakefield on 18 June 1809 for John Darlington, son on Richard and Mary. Many thanks for your help Kathleen Wilson Isle of Man. --sWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Many thanks to Bob and June for their helpful replies. June thank you for pointing out about the baptism of Jas Hargreaves Darlington in Manchester. It is so easy to forget the basics of checking when trying to find a match. At least I can now discount Mary Haslam. I am beginning to think that Mary may have been born in Gomersal and then the family moved to Wakefield from where she was married. After marriage Richard and Mary could have moved to Bolton. However, this is all conjecture at the moment with no real foundation. There is a baptism at St John, Wakefield on 18 June 1809 for John Darlington, son on Richard and Mary. Many thanks for your help Kathleen Wilson Isle of Man. -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 13 July 2019 09:03 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: LANCSGEN Digest, Vol 14, Issue 123 Send LANCSGEN mailing list submissions to lancsgen@rootsweb.com To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body subscribe to lancsgen-request@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body unsubscribe to lancsgen-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at lancsgen-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of LANCSGEN digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Richard and Mary DARLINGTON (Kathleen Wilson) 2. Re: Richard and Mary DARLINGTON (familyhistory) 3. Re: Richard and Mary DARLINGTON (June Dowling) 4. Re: Richard and Mary DARLINGTON (June Dowling) 5. Re: Richard and Mary DARLINGTON (familyhistory) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:31:12 +0100 From: Kathleen Wilson <wilsonro@manx.net> Subject: [LAN] Richard and Mary DARLINGTON To: <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <004401d538d7$9ac4f1e0$d04ed5a0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear List I have been trying to find the marriage for Richard Darlington (born c1783) and Mary (born (c1783), taken from 1851 census. Their children were all baptised at Bolton-le-Moors as follows: Ellen - bap 28 July 1811 Marianne - bap 23 May 1813 Elizabeth - bap 20 August 1815 (my 2 X great grandmother) Sarah - born 1817 died 1822 Margaret - bap 16 July 1820 Joseph - bap 28 April 1822, died January 1823 Jane - bap 28 April, died June 1822 Sarah - bap 22 September 1828 Richard died on 25 August 1857 and Mary died on 30 August 1857 in Preston, Lancashire. On the 1851 census, the only census where I can find them, Richard gives his place of birth as Chester, Cheshire and Mary's place of birth as Gomersal, West Yorkshire. The only possible marriage I can find is that of Richard Darlington and Mary Haslam on 1 October 1809 in Manchester. Richard's occupation is stated as Hatter in the Register, whereas on the 1851 census and his daughter Elizabeth's marriage certificate his occupation is Engineer. Any help anyone can give on this problem would be much appreciated. Kathleen Wilson Isle of Man ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:54:26 +0100 From: familyhistory <familyhistory@bccy.org.uk> Subject: [LAN] Re: Richard and Mary DARLINGTON To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <73c5033b-e4a6-8a28-6468-a62ae09b69a1@bccy.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed If the bride's home was Gomersall in Yorkshire have you tried looking there for a possible marriage, such as : Name: Richard Darlington Spouse's Name: Mary Schofield Event Date: 25 Sep 1808 Event Place: All Saints,Wakefield,York,England From Familysearch.com On 12/07/2019 18:31, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > Richard Darlington -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:00:40 +0000 (UTC) From: June Dowling <june.dowling@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [LAN] Re: Richard and Mary DARLINGTON To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1997431307.597492.1562954440506@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Kathleen, I can only find one other marriage between a Richard Darlington and a Mary to fit in with the birth of their first child -- and that was at Wakefield All Saints 25 Sept 1808-- bride was Mary Schofield and the couple were 'both of this parish' (N.B.Gomersall is not within Wakefield Parish). I notice that one of the witnesses to the Manchester marriage was a Joseph Haslam, no doubt a relative of Mary -- and Richard and Mary do name a son, Joseph (who sadly dies). I do agree though that it is a dramatic change of occupation for Richard if this is the correct marriage. Have you checked for the couples' baptisms? The names of the parents may help -- ie if Mary's mother was an Ellen for instance - then their first daughter was named after Mary's mother. Just a thought. Regards June ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:25:14 +0000 (UTC) From: June Dowling <june.dowling@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [LAN] Re: Richard and Mary DARLINGTON To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <345997886.616927.1562955914698@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi again Kathleen, There is only one baptism in Chester itself which I can see (that doesn't mean there aren't more!!) - around 1783 - that was a Richard Darlington and a twin sister Elizabeth baptised 13 Oct 1782 - parents Thomas Darlington and Ann. As far as Gomersal is concerned -- it fell into Birstall Parish. I only know that because I have ancestors from that area. Regards June ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 20:57:51 +0100 From: familyhistory <familyhistory@bccy.org.uk> Subject: [LAN] Re: Richard and Mary DARLINGTON To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <63005471-f644-f2f9-0a0e-8d7cb598f3e0@bccy.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed It's pretty certain you can rule out the Hatter - see Baptism: 10 Apr 1814 Collegiate and Parish, Manchester, Lancashire, England Jas. Hargreaves Darlington - Son of Richard Darlington & Mary Abode: Salford Occupation: Hatter Baptised by: J Brookes Register: Baptisms 1814 - 1815, Page 16, Entry 544 This is in 1814 between Baptism: 23 May 1813 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England Marianne Darlington - Daughter of Richard Darlington & Mary Abode: Little Bolton Occupation: Iron Founder Baptised by: Thos. Brocklebank, Curate Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1815, Page 39, Entry 310 and Baptism: 20 Aug 1815 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Darlington - Daughter of Richard Darlington & Mary Abode: Little Bolton Occupation: Weaver Baptised by: Thos Brocklebank Curate Register: Baptisms 1815 - 1817, Page 22, Entry 170 (Richard does seem to have taken time off from his mainly engineering occupations to have a spell at Weaving for this one) On 12/07/2019 18:31, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > > > Dear List > > I have been trying to find the marriage for Richard Darlington (born c1783) > and Mary (born (c1783), taken from 1851 census. > > Their children were all baptised at Bolton-le-Moors as follows: > > Ellen - bap 28 July 1811 > Marianne - bap 23 May 1813 > Elizabeth - bap 20 August 1815 (my 2 X great grandmother) > Sarah - born 1817 died 1822 > Margaret - bap 16 July 1820 > Joseph - bap 28 April 1822, died January 1823 > Jane - bap 28 April, died June 1822 > Sarah - bap 22 September 1828 > > Richard died on 25 August 1857 and Mary died on 30 August 1857 in Preston, > Lancashire. > > On the 1851 census, the only census where I can find them, Richard gives his > place of birth as Chester, Cheshire and Mary's place of birth as Gomersal, > West Yorkshire. > > > > The only possible marriage I can find is that of Richard Darlington and Mary > Haslam on 1 October 1809 in Manchester. Richard's occupation is stated as > Hatter in the Register, whereas on the 1851 census and his daughter > Elizabeth's marriage certificate his occupation is Engineer. > > > > Any help anyone can give on this problem would be much appreciated. > > > > Kathleen Wilson > > Isle of Man > > -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer When REPLYING, send a PLAIN TEXT message to lancsgen@rootsweb.com and EDIT THE SUBJECT LINE so it is more specific. Delete all messages other than the one to which you're replying. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ ------------------------------ End of LANCSGEN Digest, Vol 14, Issue 123 *****************************************

It's pretty certain you can rule out the Hatter - see Baptism: 10 Apr 1814 Collegiate and Parish, Manchester, Lancashire, England Jas. Hargreaves Darlington - Son of Richard Darlington & Mary     Abode: Salford     Occupation: Hatter     Baptised by: J Brookes     Register: Baptisms 1814 - 1815, Page 16, Entry 544 This is in 1814 between Baptism: 23 May 1813 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England Marianne Darlington - Daughter of Richard Darlington & Mary     Abode: Little Bolton     Occupation: Iron Founder     Baptised by: Thos. Brocklebank, Curate     Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1815, Page 39, Entry 310 and Baptism: 20 Aug 1815 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Darlington - Daughter of Richard Darlington & Mary     Abode: Little Bolton     Occupation: Weaver     Baptised by: Thos Brocklebank Curate     Register: Baptisms 1815 - 1817, Page 22, Entry 170 (Richard does seem to have taken time off from his mainly engineering occupations to have a spell at Weaving for this one) On 12/07/2019 18:31, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > > > Dear List > > I have been trying to find the marriage for Richard Darlington (born c1783) > and Mary (born (c1783), taken from 1851 census. > > Their children were all baptised at Bolton-le-Moors as follows: > > Ellen - bap 28 July 1811 > Marianne - bap 23 May 1813 > Elizabeth - bap 20 August 1815 (my 2 X great grandmother) > Sarah - born 1817 died 1822 > Margaret - bap 16 July 1820 > Joseph - bap 28 April 1822, died January 1823 > Jane - bap 28 April, died June 1822 > Sarah - bap 22 September 1828 > > Richard died on 25 August 1857 and Mary died on 30 August 1857 in Preston, > Lancashire. > > On the 1851 census, the only census where I can find them, Richard gives his > place of birth as Chester, Cheshire and Mary's place of birth as Gomersal, > West Yorkshire. > > > > The only possible marriage I can find is that of Richard Darlington and Mary > Haslam on 1 October 1809 in Manchester. Richard's occupation is stated as > Hatter in the Register, whereas on the 1851 census and his daughter > Elizabeth's marriage certificate his occupation is Engineer. > > > > Any help anyone can give on this problem would be much appreciated. > > > > Kathleen Wilson > > Isle of Man > > -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk

Hi again Kathleen, There is only one baptism in Chester itself which I can see (that doesn't mean there aren't more!!) - around 1783 - that was a Richard Darlington and a twin sister Elizabeth baptised 13 Oct 1782 - parents Thomas Darlington and Ann. As far as Gomersal is concerned -- it fell into Birstall Parish. I only know that because I have ancestors from that area. Regards June