I was reading a blog about High Court Records in Scotland, as one does, and came across an interesting bit which I've never thought about: in addition to the info about the criminal him/herself, the records frequently contain victim names and other information which might be relevant to research in other locations. For example, a quick search of the records for Lancashire came up with 618 hits, Manchester resulted in 1241 hits, Lincolnshire 195 hits, Durham 1335 hits, Wiltshire 123 hits, and Yorkshire 871 hits. The blog is an interesting read and can be found at https://tinyurl.com/yyptnomt Information about and instructions for searching the High Court records can be found at <https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/high-court-criminal-trials> and the search screen can be found at <http://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/search.aspx>. Because my ancestors all led exemplary lives and were never victims of crimes <g>, I didn't find any mention of them after a quick search, but maybe you'll get lucky. Here's hoping. Lynne

It gets complicated with the different periods of counties. I was initially looking for a North Wales list, some of the "real" county ones have been removed but in some places the "new" county lists have been removed instead. I normally prefer the "real" counties, like Lancashire. But in those cases the newer ones are larger so allow the post to refer to a wider area which often fits better with the movement of ancestors. In this area, the Bolton list is much quieter than in the past but it is often much more productive in getting results than LANCSGEN. Martin Briscoe Fort William Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507) -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 1:58 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: ROOTSWEB Once upon a time all these off shoot lists were necessary to keep the main lists traffic down but these days one per county would easily suffice Different times require different measures

Once upon a time all these off shoot lists were necessary to keep the main lists traffic down but these days one per county would easily suffice Different times require different measures Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01/08/2019 13:09, Lynne wrote: > > And speaking of inactive, quite a few Lancashire area lists, created when the lists were way more active, are moribund. Per my agreement with the Ancestry staff person that oversees RootsWeb, those Lancashire lists that I admin which haven't had posts other than my own for quite a long time will be inactivated and the subscribers moved to LancsGen. Once I get my act together, I'll send messages out to those lists to let everyone know. > > Lynne

And speaking of inactive, quite a few Lancashire area lists, created when the lists were way more active, are moribund. Per my agreement with the Ancestry staff person that oversees RootsWeb, those Lancashire lists that I admin which haven't had posts other than my own for quite a long time will be inactivated and the subscribers moved to LancsGen. Once I get my act together, I'll send messages out to those lists to let everyone know. Lynne Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > >Probably stating the obvious, but if it has (inactive) in the title, its >been mothballed > >The archives are still available, but you can neither subscribe or post >to that list > >You can still find any list by using the Find a List search box or >browse them > >https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/ > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >On 01/08/2019 10:38, Martin Briscoe (W10 laptop) wrote: >> I was looking around for a mailing list that I had not used for some time >> and came across this useful list of those mailing lists that are still >> active. >> >> https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/overview?country=England

Probably stating the obvious, but if it has (inactive) in the title, its been mothballed The archives are still available, but you can neither subscribe or post to that list You can still find any list by using the Find a List search box or browse them https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/ Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01/08/2019 10:38, Martin Briscoe (W10 laptop) wrote: > I was looking around for a mailing list that I had not used for some time > and came across this useful list of those mailing lists that are still > active. > > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/overview?country=England > > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507)

I was looking around for a mailing list that I had not used for some time and came across this useful list of those mailing lists that are still active. https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/overview?country=England Martin Briscoe Fort William Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507)

The Chronicle Herald, Halifax, Nova Scotia, July 29, 2019 Julie Marilyn Chalmers (Smith) Of Truro. It is with profound sadness we announce that on Friday, July 26, 2019, Julie passed away at home. Born September 27, 1945, in Barrow-in-Furness, England, she was the daughter of the late Henry and Doris Smith. Julie was predeceased by her husband, Dr. Ron Chalmers. Julie attended schools both in England and Canada and was a graduate of Queen Elizabeth High School in Halifax. Julie administered her husband's medical practice at the Hilden Clinic for over 27 years. Julie was a long-time member and past president of the Truro Golf Club. Julie was a proud supporter of 100 Women Who Care (Truro). She was also a past member of Ski Wentworth. Over the past several years Julie became a passionate hockey fan while watching her grandsons play Bantam, Midget and Junior. A Hockey. Julie is survived by her daughter, Cathy (Chuck) Williams, Tantallon; son, Scott (Pavita), Fort Myers, Fla.; and her cherished grandsons, Matt and Ben Williams. Julie is also survived by her brother, John Smith, Toronto, Ont.; and numerous nieces, nephews and extended family. A Celebration of Life will be held from 3-5 p.m. Tuesday, July 30th in Truro Golf Club, 86 Golf St., Truro. Donations in memory can be made to Colchester East Hants Victorian Order of Nurses, Canadian Cancer Society or a charity of choice. The family would like to extend particular thanks to the Palliative Care team who so ably and graciously assisted Julie these past weeks. Condolences to the family can be made by visiting: www.ColchesterCommunity.com

Hi Cherie Sorry, but I only saw it online (https://tinyurl.com/y3g4muvf) and not in print. Lynne "cherie.everett@btinternet.com" wrote: > > Hi Lynnne, >Sorry to be a nuisance but which edition Family Tree magazine please? I >have just purchased August Issue I cannot find the article. >Cherie >

Family Tree magazine has an article "How to find your Liverpool ancestors for free." Probably nothing in it you don't already know, but maybe . . . . See https://tinyurl.com/y3g4muvf Lynne

Elaine -- may I just say thank you SO much for all the amazing work you and your colleagues do. Regards June On Thursday, 25 July 2019, 10:45:02 BST, Elaine Ainsworth <elaine.ainsworth@gmail.com> wrote: Hi I've also checked the images and both dates in the baptism entry, should be 1841. I've passed it on to our QC, so it should be updated thought not immediately. Regards Elaine Lan-OPC Coordinator North West Lancs

Hi I've also checked the images and both dates in the baptism entry, should be 1841. I've passed it on to our QC, so it should be updated thought not immediately. Regards Elaine Lan-OPC Coordinator North West Lancs On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 17:31, Peter Booth via LANCSGEN < lancsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > All, > > I know that this is a strange question, but here goes: > Were babies (born in Lancashire) ever baptized after they had died? > > I am trying to reconcile the following pair of Lanc OPC entries that > appear to suggest that: > > 1. On 19 Nov 1841 Amnon Hargreaves and his wife Jane (Jenny Warburton) had > a daughter Elizabeth (Anne) Hargreaves, who died nine months later and was > buried on 10 Jul 1842, but was baptized on 5 Dec 1842. > I guess if that baptismal date was actually 5 Dec 1851 then everything > would make sense, and mistranscription is the most likely explanation? > > Peter > Burial: 10 Jul 1842 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England > Elizabeth Anne Hargreaves - Daughter of Amnon Hargreaves > Age: 9 months > Abode: Broad Holden Fold > Buried by: R Edwards > Register: Burials 1840 - 1852, Page 92, Entry 732 > Source: Original Parish Register at Lancashire Archives > > Baptism: 5 Dec 1842 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England > Elizabeth Hargreaves - Dau of Amnon Hargreaves & Jane > Born: 19 Nov 1841 > Abode: Haslingden > Occupation: Stripper & Grinder > Notes: S [in margin] > Baptised by: T Sewell > Register: Baptisms 1837 - 1853, Page 172, Entry 1377 > Source: Original Parish Register > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 17, 2019, at 1:29 PM, June Dowling via LANCSGEN < > lancsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Good gracious Lynne -- what a long list you have provided. Thank you so > very much for going to all that trouble. It seems a shame as we could check > on the Lancs OPC site ourselves under 'What's New'. > > > > We'll be getting lazy if you keep doing this for us! Thank you again. > > > > Regards June > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 17 July 2019, 15:35:29 BST, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lancs OPC (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/) have been very busy bees: > > > > > > * > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, > links, and information. > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word > UNSUBSCRIBE > > in both the subject and body of the message to > lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, > and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word > UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Indeed but not quite the same for C of E ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/07/2019 18:26, Lynne wrote: > >> From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Peter >> >> You cannot baptise the dead > > > Except in the case of the LDS. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead) > > Lynne

>From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > >Hi Peter > >You cannot baptise the dead Except in the case of the LDS. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead) Lynne

Peter -- Sorry, I should have explained, that if you were unaware of the records on Ancestry (and you do subscribe) -- you can find them by going to the Card Catalogue and typing 'Lancashire Baptisms' (or marriages or burials as the case may be. Options with dates split at 1813 will appear. Select your option and then just complete the search box. If you want to check the parishes covered - go to 'Browse this collection' on the right hand side of the screen - a list of included parishes will appear. You can then complete the search box if your parish is listed. Be aware that some places such as Bury, Bolton, Rochdale, Newchurch in Rossendale are included in the Manchester collection -- in which case just type in Manchester baptisms (or marriages or burials). Liverpool also has it's own collection. Regards June

----- Forwarded message ----- From: June Dowling <june.dowling@yahoo.co.uk>To: Peter Booth <peter_booth@me.com>Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2019, 17:54:33 BSTSubject: Re: Baptism after burial? Peter -- the actual filmed records for both the Parish Registers ans Bishops Transcripts are on Ancestry for this church (along with many other Lancashire Parish Registers/Bishops Transcripts. In Elizabeth's case she was definitely baptised on 5th Dec 1841 in both sets of records and buried on 10 July 1842 aged 9 months. -- So it looks like the record you saw was a mis-transcription. Regards June

Hi Peter You cannot baptise the dead Hence why you have some private baptisms where the child was thought unlikely to live before being able to get to a church So there must be some other reason for your problem, transcription? wrong child? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/07/2019 17:31, Peter Booth via LANCSGEN wrote: > All, > > I know that this is a strange question, but here goes: > Were babies (born in Lancashire) ever baptized after they had died? > > I am trying to reconcile the following pair of Lanc OPC entries that appear to suggest that: > > 1. On 19 Nov 1841 Amnon Hargreaves and his wife Jane (Jenny Warburton) had a daughter Elizabeth (Anne) Hargreaves, who died nine months later and was buried on 10 Jul 1842, but was baptized on 5 Dec 1842. > I guess if that baptismal date was actually 5 Dec 1851 then everything would make sense, and mistranscription is the most likely explanation? > > Peter

All, I know that this is a strange question, but here goes: Were babies (born in Lancashire) ever baptized after they had died? I am trying to reconcile the following pair of Lanc OPC entries that appear to suggest that: 1. On 19 Nov 1841 Amnon Hargreaves and his wife Jane (Jenny Warburton) had a daughter Elizabeth (Anne) Hargreaves, who died nine months later and was buried on 10 Jul 1842, but was baptized on 5 Dec 1842. I guess if that baptismal date was actually 5 Dec 1851 then everything would make sense, and mistranscription is the most likely explanation? Peter Burial: 10 Jul 1842 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Anne Hargreaves - Daughter of Amnon Hargreaves Age: 9 months Abode: Broad Holden Fold Buried by: R Edwards Register: Burials 1840 - 1852, Page 92, Entry 732 Source: Original Parish Register at Lancashire Archives Baptism: 5 Dec 1842 St James, Haslingden, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Hargreaves - Dau of Amnon Hargreaves & Jane Born: 19 Nov 1841 Abode: Haslingden Occupation: Stripper & Grinder Notes: S [in margin] Baptised by: T Sewell Register: Baptisms 1837 - 1853, Page 172, Entry 1377 Source: Original Parish Register Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2019, at 1:29 PM, June Dowling via LANCSGEN <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Good gracious Lynne -- what a long list you have provided. Thank you so very much for going to all that trouble. It seems a shame as we could check on the Lancs OPC site ourselves under 'What's New'. > > We'll be getting lazy if you keep doing this for us! Thank you again. > > Regards June > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 17 July 2019, 15:35:29 BST, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > > > > Lancs OPC (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/) have been very busy bees: > > > * > > _______________________________________________ > Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE > in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you Howard for the information....I am sure I paid £10 last time, I certainly have paid £6 in the past. Just put a largish shopping list in. Dorri Have you heard the phrase "Where there is a will there are relatives".....my husband has a new varient "Where there is a will there is a 'sad' Geneaolgist"! ________________________________________ From: Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> Sent: 23 July 2019 20:46 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Cc: Howard Jones Subject: [LAN] Re: Probate Registry reduces prices Howard, I'm glad you were able to take advantage of the lower price. Unfortunately, I cannot confirm whether or not you're going mad. Actually, I think it's a requirement to have a few screws loose if you're researching family history. ;-) Kindest regards, Lynne Howard Jones <howard.o.jones@gmail.com> wrote: > >I ordered some last night and thought that they were cheap compared with last time. > >At one point I though that I'd made a mistake. > >At that price I'll be ordering a lot more than I have in the past. > >Thanks for confirming I'm not going mad. > >Howard > _______________________________________________ Be sure mail to the list is in PLAIN TEXT. GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Don't forget to check the Lancashire message board for new queries, links, and information. To UNSUBSCRIBE via email, send a Plain Text email with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the subject and body of the message to lancsgen-leave@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Peter Maybe the reduction in price doesn't cover solders' wills. Can you provide the web address, please? Thanks! Lynne Peter Metcalfe <Peter-redfern@runbox.com> wrote: > >It's still showing £10 for me. > >Peter > > >On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:34:26 +0100, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > >> No Peter, I checked earlier and they were £1.50 >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> On 23/07/2019 15:20, Peter Metcalfe wrote: >> > I noticed that a soldiers will is still £10. >> > >> > Peter

Howard, I'm glad you were able to take advantage of the lower price. Unfortunately, I cannot confirm whether or not you're going mad. Actually, I think it's a requirement to have a few screws loose if you're researching family history. ;-) Kindest regards, Lynne Howard Jones <howard.o.jones@gmail.com> wrote: > >I ordered some last night and thought that they were cheap compared with last time. > >At one point I though that I'd made a mistake. > >At that price I'll be ordering a lot more than I have in the past. > >Thanks for confirming I'm not going mad. > >Howard >