>From Bolton & District FHS (http://www.bolton.mlfhs.org.uk/): Caroline Furey , Bolton Archives collection Officer, will present ‘Health Care in Bolton Before the NHS’, discussing what the people of Bolton did to treat illness and injury before the Bolton Dispensary was opened in 1814, the history of the Dispensary/Infirmary, history of Townley’s Hospital and mention of other hospitals such as Blair’s Hospital. Caroline's talk will include pictures of items from the archive collections at Bolton to illustrate the talk. All welcome of course, with a small charge to those who are not members of the Manchester and Lancashire Family History Society. The usual venue of Old Links Golf Club (first floor, no lift yet --- sorry ) , Chorley Old Road, BL1 5SU. It starts at 7. 30pm with tea and coffee served from 7pm, and a Help Desk, and stationery and recycle desks available. For further enquiries please contact Barbara Owen on 01204 309515 or email [email protected]

>From Manchester Histories: In 2019, the 200th anniversary of the Peterloo Massacre will be taking place remembering when cavalry charged to disperse a crowd of 60,000 - 80,000 people in St Peter's Field, Manchester. People had gathered to demand voting reform and improved economic conditions for working people, and the attempt to break up the meeting led to the death of 15 people and injuries to over 600. In partnership with People's History Museum, Manchester Histories have been hosting a series of meetings for people discuss ideas, partnerships and plans leading up to the commemorations in Greater Manchester. Whether you have attended the past sessions or not, join us for this third session to continue the conversations. Everyone is welcome whether you are an interested individual, a member of a history organisation, a committed Peterloo campaigner, an artist interested in responding to the commemorations, or a teacher planning something for your school. We want to share and hear as many opinions as possible. Please share this event with any friends or colleagues who you think it will be of interest to. If you have any questions about the meeting and how you could get involved, please contact Manchester Histories CEO, Karen Shannon on [email protected] or call 0161 306 1982. Strictly no food or drink in meeting room. https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/peterloo-2019-public-network-meeting-tickets-33006922594 People's History Museum Left Bank Manchester M3 3ER http://www.phm.org.uk/

Message from John Marsden, Lancashire: Hi All New data has been added at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk as follows: Added 66,253 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1965-1969) Added 13,897 Births for Bolton RD comprising: Bolton North (1947-1948) Farnworth & Kearsley (1956-1963) Halliwell (1933-1943) Little Bolton (1941-1947) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson and Phil Wharram and to Bob Winder and their teams for the above. John John Marsden Webmaster: www.lancashirebmd.org.uk www.cumbriabmd.org.uk www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk www.mlfhs.org.uk For access to all the UK's major BMD and Census sites visit http://www.UKBMD.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Family History sites visit http://www.UKGDL.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Military Family History sites visit http://www.UKMFH.org.uk/

When I did the original Ancestry DNA I was getting matches of the order of 8 generations, none of which I was able to identify. I had one on the current DNA tests who shows 4th to 6th cousin and had lots of family in my home town but we could not see any common surnames. We have now decided that there is an illegitimate connection. We can't prove it but it does seem very certain. What I have found useful is to have several known matches in the tree, that makes it possible to test a new match to see which part of the tree they are related to or not related to. I wrote before that I have been able to be very certain that someone born in the early 1800s was illegitimate. I have found a second cousin but just waiting to get a reply to a message on Ancestry. There are a few other people we have found related to the family. What I really want is to get some of the Cumberland Briscoes with DNA samples so I can see whether we might be related to them. Martin Briscoe Fort William [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of familyhistory Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 6:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Looking for advice about DNA matches If you start with the premise that a "generation" averages 25 years then 50 generations will take you back around 1250 years and 65 will be around 1625 years. That means that the common ancestor for the "match" was knocking about around 592AD. As I understand it this sort of matching is mainly of use in determining racial origin - really more to do with if you had, say Danish roots or Celtic etc, than helping you work out your relationship to a particular named family. In my own case traditional record chasing indicates my descent from a clothier who died in the Blackburn area in 1718. There is a gap in the record around 1800 but associative research suggest the most likely connection. Now if I had a confirmed descendant of one of the brothers of this "questionable" ancestor and who I can prove was related to the clothier then a DNA test of both of us would be worthwhile to confirm or refute my research. Unless I had this I don't think it worth my while enriching the shareholders of these DNA testing organisations. I was a member of a group for some time which researched the Calvert name using DNA - the group was mainly USA based (I think due to the interest in the name as that of the family of Lord Baltimore, proprietor of Maryland). Groups like that seem to have been able to make use of DNA research because they have gone into it with a defined aim. What to do with the emails - unless there are any with 10 or 11 generation matches or you are interested in racial origins then I'd file them in the WPB as pursuing them could be costly and probably lead nowhere. BobC

If you start with the premise that a "generation" averages 25 years then 50 generations will take you back around 1250 years and 65 will be around 1625 years. That means that the common ancestor for the "match" was knocking about around 592AD. As I understand it this sort of matching is mainly of use in determining racial origin - really more to do with if you had, say Danish roots or Celtic etc, than helping you work out your relationship to a particular named family. In my own case traditional record chasing indicates my descent from a clothier who died in the Blackburn area in 1718. There is a gap in the record around 1800 but associative research suggest the most likely connection. Now if I had a confirmed descendant of one of the brothers of this "questionable" ancestor and who I can prove was related to the clothier then a DNA test of both of us would be worthwhile to confirm or refute my research. Unless I had this I don't think it worth my while enriching the shareholders of these DNA testing organisations. I was a member of a group for some time which researched the Calvert name using DNA - the group was mainly USA based (I think due to the interest in the name as that of the family of Lord Baltimore, proprietor of Maryland). Groups like that seem to have been able to make use of DNA research because they have gone into it with a defined aim. What to do with the emails - unless there are any with 10 or 11 generation matches or you are interested in racial origins then I'd file them in the WPB as pursuing them could be costly and probably lead nowhere. BobC On 29/03/2017 09:55, Fiona Hall wrote: > You wrote: > > Hello Fellow Listers, > I feel very fortunate to be able to trace my line in Lancashire back 10 > generations. Recently, I had my DNA tested and I'm now getting email > messages talking about individuals with matching DNA to mine. > Apparently, I > currently have 1240 matches, most of which are with 50 or 65 generations, > too many generations?for my tiny mind to deal with. > I'm at a loss as to what I should or could be doing with this > information. ... > > There are some lively and knowledgeable discussions on Facebook - the > page : 'dna help for genealogy (uk) - > gedmatch-ftdna-ancestrydna-23andme' is very active and answers even > my stupid questions. here is also 'DNA for Genealogy - UK' > > There are also Ancestry Message Boards on the subject. > > HTH > > Fiona >

Fiona Hall wrote: > <snip> > >There are also Ancestry Message Boards on the subject. > The RootsWeb/Ancestry DNA message boards are very active and include participation by some extremely knowledgeable folk. Under Topics > DNA Research are the following sub-topics: - Announcements of DNA Projects - Autosomal DNA - DNA & Adoption - DNA Ethnicity Result - Gedmatch - General Research - Genome Mate - mt-DNA - Y-DNA and under Topics > Ancestry.com there is - Ancestry DNA (for discussion of technical issues with Ancestry DNA tests) Lynne

I don't expect great results from DNA testing but I find it interesting none the less. I mostly only check up to fourth cousins and even then I don't expect great things. It has matched any known relative I have who have also done their DNA, so I know it works for more than general heritage. To my surprise I was recently connected with a 5th cousin through DNA whose connection to mine is in the 1700's. It is a clear match and added 137 people to my tree. I agree it's a rare occurance, but it does happen. With my husband's DNA a match was able to tell us where his great grandfather originated from when no one in the family had any idea. So it's not all useless but you have to realize in advance you aren't going to suddenly fill your family tree with the matches you get.

You wrote: Hello Fellow Listers, I feel very fortunate to be able to trace my line in Lancashire back 10 generations. Recently, I had my DNA tested and I'm now getting email messages talking about individuals with matching DNA to mine. Apparently, I currently have 1240 matches, most of which are with 50 or 65 generations, too many generations?for my tiny mind to deal with. I'm at a loss as to what I should or could be doing with this information. ... There are some lively and knowledgeable discussions on Facebook - the page : 'dna help for genealogy (uk) - gedmatch-ftdna-ancestrydna-23andme' is very active and answers even my stupid questions. here is also 'DNA for Genealogy - UK' There are also Ancestry Message Boards on the subject. HTH Fiona

Many thanks to the dedicated volunteers! Noreen > On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:10 AM, sally roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > Here are the latest databases to be added to the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website. The search engine has been updated to include all records. > > http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html > > 21 March 2017 > > Marriages 1813 to 1837 and 1843 to 1948 from Christ Church in the Parish of Ainsworth > > Baptisms 1793 to 1911, Confirmations 1845 to 1915 and Marriages 1831 to 1913 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Saints, Barton upon Irwell > > Baptisms and Burials 1846 to 1896 and Marriages 1846 to 1870 from the Church of St Mary Magdalene, Broughton in Furness > > Banns 1929 to 2014 from the Church of St Michael and All Angels in the Parish of Croston > > Baptisms 1799 to 1837 from Brook Rd Wesleyan Methodist, in the District of Flixton, Manchester > > Marriages 1994 to 2001 from the Church of St Peter in the Parish of Mawdesley with Bispham > > Baptisms 1890 to 1905 from the Roman Catholic Church of St John the Baptist, Rochdale > > Confirmations 1877 to 1891 from Swinton Industrial School, Swinton > > Marriages 1813 to 1819 and 1836 to 1840 from the Church of St James, in the District of Toxteth, Liverpool > > Baptisms 1988 to 2002 from the Church of St Mark, Worsley > > 7 March 2017 > > Baptisms 1894 to 1900 from the Roman Catholic Church of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, in the District of Blackley, Manchester > > Baptisms 1972 to 2005 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of Darwen > > Baptisms 1886 to 1887 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool > > Marriages 1795 to 1796 from the Collegiate Church, Manchester > > Marriages 1965 to 1976 from the Church of St Peter in the Parish of Mawdesley with Bispham > > Baptisms 1907 to 1914 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Peter in the Parish of Middleton > > Baptisms 1853 to 1858 and Banns 1810 to 1811 and 1836 to 1840 from the Church of St Mary, Oldham > > Marriages 1937 to 1951 from the Church of St Andrew, Oldham > > Baptisms 1862 to 1870 from the Roman Catholic Church of Our Lady of Mount Carmel and St Patrick, Oldham > > Burials 1851 to 1853 from St John in the Town of Preston > > Baptisms 1859 to 1866 from the Church of St Anne, Shevington > > Baptisms 1856 to 1910, Confirmations 1863 to 1904 and Marriages 1867 to 1920 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary of the Immaculate Conception, Swinton > > Also - a note from the LOPC themselves: We are looking for a few more volunteers to help with register photography, mainly at Preston and Manchester. Please look on the website for details on how to volunteer. > > Regards, > Sally > > > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, Here are the latest databases to be added to the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website. The search engine has been updated to include all records. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 21 March 2017 Marriages 1813 to 1837 and 1843 to 1948 from Christ Church in the Parish of Ainsworth Baptisms 1793 to 1911, Confirmations 1845 to 1915 and Marriages 1831 to 1913 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Saints, Barton upon Irwell Baptisms and Burials 1846 to 1896 and Marriages 1846 to 1870 from the Church of St Mary Magdalene, Broughton in Furness Banns 1929 to 2014 from the Church of St Michael and All Angels in the Parish of Croston Baptisms 1799 to 1837 from Brook Rd Wesleyan Methodist, in the District of Flixton, Manchester Marriages 1994 to 2001 from the Church of St Peter in the Parish of Mawdesley with Bispham Baptisms 1890 to 1905 from the Roman Catholic Church of St John the Baptist, Rochdale Confirmations 1877 to 1891 from Swinton Industrial School, Swinton Marriages 1813 to 1819 and 1836 to 1840 from the Church of St James, in the District of Toxteth, Liverpool Baptisms 1988 to 2002 from the Church of St Mark, Worsley 7 March 2017 Baptisms 1894 to 1900 from the Roman Catholic Church of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, in the District of Blackley, Manchester Baptisms 1972 to 2005 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of Darwen Baptisms 1886 to 1887 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Marriages 1795 to 1796 from the Collegiate Church, Manchester Marriages 1965 to 1976 from the Church of St Peter in the Parish of Mawdesley with Bispham Baptisms 1907 to 1914 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Peter in the Parish of Middleton Baptisms 1853 to 1858 and Banns 1810 to 1811 and 1836 to 1840 from the Church of St Mary, Oldham Marriages 1937 to 1951 from the Church of St Andrew, Oldham Baptisms 1862 to 1870 from the Roman Catholic Church of Our Lady of Mount Carmel and St Patrick, Oldham Burials 1851 to 1853 from St John in the Town of Preston Baptisms 1859 to 1866 from the Church of St Anne, Shevington Baptisms 1856 to 1910, Confirmations 1863 to 1904 and Marriages 1867 to 1920 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary of the Immaculate Conception, Swinton Also - a note from the LOPC themselves: We are looking for a few more volunteers to help with register photography, mainly at Preston and Manchester. Please look on the website for details on how to volunteer. Regards, Sally

Researching the Young family who lived at Chorley Rd Westhoughton from 1740 to about 1940 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Norman, You didn't specify what kind of DNA test you did; there is more than one. However, from the number of "matches" (1240) I'm going to guess that it's of autosomal DNA. This number of matches is fairly common with atDNA. If so, don't worry about the "50 or 65 generations". The atD\NA matching is basically limited to five, maybe six or seven, generations of separation. Beyond that, the genetic signal gets swamped by background noise. Nor, did you say which company you tested with; it could make a difference. The "Big Three" in the field are Family Tree DNA, Ancestry DNA and 23andMe; these are reputable companies with databases suifficiently large to yield significant matches. If you want to follow up on some of those 1240, I'd suggest looking at the size of total DNA shared and the largest single shared blocks. In general, the larger the block (& the total) the closer the relationship. The four standard types of genealogical DNA tests are 1. yDNA STR -- for direct paternal lineages up to ~24 generations (roughly the time of universal surnames) and for males only. 2. yDNA SNP -- for ancient patrilines, generally beyond 24 generations (exceptions exist) also males only 3. mtDNA -- for tracing direct maternal lineages, many generations but more ambiguous,, both genders. 4. atDNA -- for indirect relationships out to about 4 generations, both genders. There are other, non-standard tests. But it's generally recommended to use them only in conjunction with the standard tests. Incidentally, I'm the administrator of a large DNA project for a common surname. I have to know this stuff. -rt_/) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:48:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Norman Ashton <[email protected]> To: LancsGen Mailing List <[email protected]> Subject: [LAN] Looking for advice about DNA matches Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello Fellow Listers, I feel very fortunate to be able to trace my line in Lancashire back 10 generations. Recently, I had my DNA tested and I'm now getting email messages talking about individuals with matching DNA to mine. Apparently, I currently have 1240 matches, most of which are with 50 or 65 generations, too many generations?for my tiny mind to deal with. I'm at a loss as to what I should or could be doing with this information. I thought of building a spreadsheet with 1240 entries to see what pops up; of emailing some of the matches within more recent generations to ask if their lines went through Deane Parish or other Lancashire locales my people lived in. Acknowledging that I must not be the first lister to find himself in this quandary, I would like to petition for advice as to how other listers have dealt with this new information. No idea is too strange or too far outside the box. Thanking you in advance,Norm Ashton(logging in from Toronto, Canada and going through life like a porcupine in a room full of balloons!)

Message from John Marsden, Lancashire. Hi All New data has been added at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk as follows: Added 13,866 Births for Bolton RD comprising: Great Bolton and Lever (1920-1941) Horwich (1930-1935) Turton (1935-1963) Added 8,946 Deaths for Bury RD comprising: Bury South (1889-1921) Thanks are due to Bob Winder and to Tony Foster and their teams for the above. John -- John Marsden Webmaster: www.lancashirebmd.org.uk www.cumbriabmd.org.uk www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk www.mlfhs.org.uk For access to all the UK's major BMD and Census sites visit http://www.UKBMD.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Family History sites visit http://www.UKGDL.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Military Family History sites visit http://www.UKMFH.org.uk/

Thanks for all your responses, possible a Methodist based on marriage and children baptisms, Thanks again Sue

Who are you looking for? Sent from my iPad > On 19 Mar 2017, at 15:39, John Lindley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Ruth. Problem is I am not on ancestry. I use fi d my past and the > incoming lists from Canada are not there. Thanks john > >> On 19 Mar 2017 15:35, "Ruth Appleby" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Incoming passenger lists are on Ancestry. >> >> Ruth >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 19 Mar 2017, at 14:51, John Lindley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> HI list. Can a amy one please tell me were I can get the passenger lists >>> for ships arriving from Canada in the late 1930's on a ship called the >>> matoroa. Thanks. Regards john lindley Ps the port wasI iverpool >>> >>> >>> >>> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >>> >>> Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy. >> rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm >>> >>> Contact the list administrator at [email protected] >>> >>> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >> Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ >> lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm >> >> Contact the list administrator at [email protected] >> >> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Ruth. Problem is I am not on ancestry. I use fi d my past and the incoming lists from Canada are not there. Thanks john On 19 Mar 2017 15:35, "Ruth Appleby" <[email protected]> wrote: > Incoming passenger lists are on Ancestry. > > Ruth > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 19 Mar 2017, at 14:51, John Lindley <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > HI list. Can a amy one please tell me were I can get the passenger lists > > for ships arriving from Canada in the late 1930's on a ship called the > > matoroa. Thanks. Regards john lindley Ps the port wasI iverpool > > > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy. > rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm > > > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ > lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Adrian wrote: Message: 6 Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:03:10 +0000 From: Adrian Bruce <[email protected]> To: LancsGen Mailing List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAN] burial in unconsecrated ground Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" No - all sorts of possibilities, I guess, but being a non-conformist might be one - a church graveyard just might have an unconsecrated area for non-conformists - though this may be unusual??? I notice that you don't say which graveyard - burials in municipal or privately owned cemeteries were habitually split (at least) between Cof (consecrated) and "the rest" (unconsecrated) so you need to be certain exactly what sort of a burial ground we're talking about. If you do a Google on the topic, you'll probably find all sorts of discussions putting more detail on than my fallible memory can. Adrian All who live in a Parish whether members of the C of E or not are entitled to be buried in the Churchyard. I believe there are sections which are not consecrated for this purpose. Sometimes it can depend on who actually does the committal There was a problem a good few years back where someone from my church (non-conformist) wanted to be buried in the Parish Churchyard and a grave in the consecrated section duly dug . However, the families had to wait in our church while another plot was dug in the unconsecrated section as the family would not allow the C of E Priest to do the interment words (it was agreed that this would be followed by a words from the congregational minister) which he has to do by Canon Law. How times have changed - no-one would object nowadays and in fact it happens with our older members who are buried with family in the consecrated section - the vicar does the burial of the ashes. Fiona

HI list. Can a amy one please tell me were I can get the passenger lists for ships arriving from Canada in the late 1930's on a ship called the matoroa. Thanks. Regards john lindley Ps the port wasI iverpool

One of my ancestors committed suicide. The Death Certificate read that he did it "a temporary fit of insanity", I think that was a common wording. He was buried at the parish church though the grave was lost when then they removed many graves. -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Chapman Sent: 19 March 2017 11:55 To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] burial in unconsecrated ground Hi Listers On searching the family search parish registered have found burial record for an ancestor which states he was buried in unconsecrated ground, would you assume from this that he committed suicide? Thanks Sue

Not necessarily - people of other faiths would be buried in unconsecrated ground too if that was the only burial space available. Do you know what religion your ancestor was? Dot Holden On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Susan Chapman <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers > > On searching the family search parish registered have found burial record > for an ancestor which states he was buried in unconsecrated ground, would > you assume from this that he committed suicide? > > Thanks > Sue > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ > lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >