Still working away at the MOORE family. The list overall; has been extremely helpful with finding information re the family of Charles Herbert MOORE & Lily Ellen Florence KEMSLEY. From past postings; it was found Charles & Lily had 3 sons: Brian Kemsley MOORE b) 1920 Donald Herbert MOORE b) 1921 Maxwell Benjamin MOORE b) 1922 It is Maxwell Benjamin MOORE that I am currently interested in: finding he Died November 2006, Wigam & Leigh District, Lancashire. In the December 1/4 1943, Liverpool South District; Maxwell Married Elizabeth JONES and try as I might; that's where my research halts; not being able to find Elizabeth's Birth or Death and haven't been able to find if any children were born to the marriage. As to her Parents? Any ideas as to where I may be able to find such information, as I've exhausted every avenue I can think of. Robert Australia

That all ties in with the 1939Register entry that I posted first. There is a Mary E A STUDDART born 1872 in the household - could well be Alice's mother. An Ivy JONES born 14 July 1927 married a CHAPPLE is also there. Also an Ethel F JONES born 1920 married a NORTH. Alice M born 19 Aug 1896 is married to a Robert D PRICE though - they married in Q3 1928 in St Mary, Kirkdale. There is a death for a Richard JONES in Q1 1927 aged 32 - means that he would have died before Ivy was born and should be reflected as such on her birth certificate. Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of familyhistory Sent: 10 April 2017 09:44 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Maxwell Benjamin MOOR b) 1922 And that shows as a witness Ivy Jones who was likely to be Elizabeth's sister. Checking LAN-OPC marriages for Ivy there are two likely entries : Marriage: 20 Dec 1952 St Mary, Wavertree, Lancashire, England Thomas Chapple - 38 years, Factory Worker, Bachelor, 61 Byng Road, Liverpool 4. Ivy Jones - 25 years, Factory Worker, Spinster, 8 Waldgrave Place, Liverpool 15. Groom's Father: Martin James Chapple, Labourer Bride's Father: Richard Jones, Deceased, Glass Blower Witness: H. B. Jones; N. Corner Married by Licence by: C. P. K. Barnes Rector Register: Marriages 1940 - 1959, Page 126, Entry 251 Source: LDS Film 1546069 which shows she would have been born ~ 1927 and : Baptism: 5 Aug 1927 St John the Evangelist, Knotty Ash, Lancashire, England Ivy Jones - [Child] of Richard Jones & Alice Margaret Abode: 13 9th Avenue Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: Frank J. Powell Register: Baptisms 1879 - 1933, Page 218, Entry 1743 Source: LDS Film 2147887 which suggests Alice Margaret may also have been Elizabeth's mother. There is a possible marriage at Kirkdale, St Mary in 1919 between a Richard Jones and a Alice M Studdart and sure enough FreeBMD gives Ivy's mothers maiden surname as "Studdart" and one for Elizabeth : Births Sep 1922 Jones, Elizabeth Studdart W.Derby 8b 845 So it looks like Elizabeth's parents were Richard Jones and Alice Margaret Studdart. -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk On 10/04/2017 06:57, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Robert > > Maxwell’s marriage to Elizabeth Jones is on the Lancashire OPC site. > > http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html > > Regards > > Kerry (Young) > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And that shows as a witness Ivy Jones who was likely to be Elizabeth's sister. Checking LAN-OPC marriages for Ivy there are two likely entries : Marriage: 20 Dec 1952 St Mary, Wavertree, Lancashire, England Thomas Chapple - 38 years, Factory Worker, Bachelor, 61 Byng Road, Liverpool 4. Ivy Jones - 25 years, Factory Worker, Spinster, 8 Waldgrave Place, Liverpool 15. Groom's Father: Martin James Chapple, Labourer Bride's Father: Richard Jones, Deceased, Glass Blower Witness: H. B. Jones; N. Corner Married by Licence by: C. P. K. Barnes Rector Register: Marriages 1940 - 1959, Page 126, Entry 251 Source: LDS Film 1546069 which shows she would have been born ~ 1927 and : Baptism: 5 Aug 1927 St John the Evangelist, Knotty Ash, Lancashire, England Ivy Jones - [Child] of Richard Jones & Alice Margaret Abode: 13 9th Avenue Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: Frank J. Powell Register: Baptisms 1879 - 1933, Page 218, Entry 1743 Source: LDS Film 2147887 which suggests Alice Margaret may also have been Elizabeth's mother. There is a possible marriage at Kirkdale, St Mary in 1919 between a Richard Jones and a Alice M Studdart and sure enough FreeBMD gives Ivy's mothers maiden surname as "Studdart" and one for Elizabeth : Births Sep 1922 Jones, Elizabeth Studdart W.Derby 8b 845 So it looks like Elizabeth's parents were Richard Jones and Alice Margaret Studdart. -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk On 10/04/2017 06:57, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Robert > > Maxwell’s marriage to Elizabeth Jones is on the Lancashire OPC site. > > http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html > > Regards > > Kerry (Young) > > >

I just checked the 1939Register and there was no Elizabeth JONES at that address in 1939 Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 10 April 2017 06:57 To: Robert N. G. KEMSLEY; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Maxwell Benjamin MOOR b) 1922 Hi Robert Maxwell’s marriage to Elizabeth Jones is on the Lancashire OPC site. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html Regards Kerry (Young) :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert There is an Elizabeth MOORE born 23 June 1922 and living at 39 Sandway Crescent in Liverpool in the 1939Register who married a MOORE. Elizabeth married ? MOORE before 12 October 1943 (as that is the date of the change of name in the 1939Register. The family is headed by Robert D PRICE who married an Alice M JONES in 1928 in St Mary, Kirkdale. There are only two Elizabeth MOORE's registered in 1922 in Liverpool and one has a mothers' maiden name of JONES which would imply that she was illegitimate. You would need the birth certificate to prove it. Mind it could have been a JONES/JONES marriage!! Of the children that Kerry mentioned I am not sure that Alan is yours as they are born in Q2 and therefore 6 months before Maxwell married. There are too many Moore/JONES children to know exactly who are yours. The ones that Kerry has mentioned are only some of those who were born in Liverpool South RD. As Elizabeth is visible in the 1939Register in means that she has almost certainly died. Now this is where it starts to get a little tricky and it is always helpful to know which websites someone has used - certainly for searching the GRO indexes. FreeBMD only goes as far as 1983 and is not complete yet at the later stages. All of the other stop in 2005/6 as that is the limit of the database that the GRO issued went. For births, marriages and deaths beyond that you need to visit in person on the repositories in the UK that hold them. These are listed here https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know. asp#FamilyHistory1 If this is the correct Elizabeth (and you would need to get the marriage certificate to prove it) then she died in November 1989 in Liverpool. It would appear that neither Elizabeth nor Maxwell left wills. Hope this helps Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference for 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert N. G. KEMSLEY Sent: 10 April 2017 01:32 To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Maxwell Benjamin MOOR b) 1922 Still working away at the MOORE family. The list overall; has been extremely helpful with finding information re the family of Charles Herbert MOORE & Lily Ellen Florence KEMSLEY. From past postings; it was found Charles & Lily had 3 sons: Brian Kemsley MOORE b) 1920 Donald Herbert MOORE b) 1921 Maxwell Benjamin MOORE b) 1922 It is Maxwell Benjamin MOORE that I am currently interested in: finding he Died November 2006, Wigam & Leigh District, Lancashire. In the December 1/4 1943, Liverpool South District; Maxwell Married Elizabeth JONES and try as I might; that's where my research halts; not being able to find Elizabeth's Birth or Death and haven't been able to find if any children were born to the marriage. As to her Parents? Any ideas as to where I may be able to find such information, as I've exhausted every avenue I can think of. Robert Australia :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Also sending a possible 1911 census match. Christine

Baptism of Robert Graham O'Kea sent to |Mike off list. Parents William and Elizabeth Christine -----Original Message----- From: Mike Morris Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 1:02 AM To: SEND MAIL LANCASHIRE Subject: [LAN] O'Kea family in 1911 Liverpool I am back again grovelling :))Please is there any chance one of our kind list members can help me to help a dear friend track down his grandparents in |Liverpool ? All he could remember was her name was Mary Elizabeth (Nee GRAHAM) O'Kea, she was born around Edinburgh, Scotland. he never got to meet her but all her children were born in Liverpool. He does not know his granddads name. The feeling is she married Mr O'Kea in Liverpool. But I cannot trace any wedding in the free Lancashire records or the one covering England for this couple. Mary had the following children. Esther Born 1914 Abercromby, Liverpool. She was my friends mother. She had three brothers Thomas, Samuel and William O'Kea. He does not have there birth years. Can anyone track down Mary Elizabeth GRAHAM'S wedding to a Mr O'Kea. It would be before 1814. I did locate two more possible children. But my friend has never heard of them. The Lancs records show they came from Abercromby, Jean b1912 and Edward B1918 he died the same year. Kind regards and my thanks. Mike Morris Toronto Canada :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am back again grovelling :))Please is there any chance one of our kind list members can help me to help a dear friend track down his grandparents in |Liverpool ? All he could remember was her name was Mary Elizabeth (Nee GRAHAM) O'Kea, she was born around Edinburgh, Scotland.  he never got to meet her but all her children were born in Liverpool. He does not know his granddads name. The feeling is she married Mr O'Kea in Liverpool. But I cannot trace any wedding in the free Lancashire records or the one covering England for this couple. Mary had the following children. Esther Born 1914 Abercromby, Liverpool. She was my friends mother. She had three brothers Thomas, Samuel and William O'Kea. He does not have there birth years. Can anyone track down Mary Elizabeth GRAHAM'S wedding to a Mr O'Kea. It would be before 1814. I did locate two more possible children. But my friend has never heard of them. The Lancs records show they came from Abercromby, Jean b1912 and Edward B1918 he died the same year. Kind regards and my thanks. Mike Morris Toronto Canada

Good evening Bob: Again; Many thanks for your interest in my quest and your contributions. Re Donald Herbert MOORE Marrying; I very much feel that he married Eileen Mary NEWCOMBE whose Mother is recorded as VINCENT, finding a John C NEWCOMBE Married Sep 1/4 9132, Wirral District, Cheshire - Maud M VINCENT. Yes; I've Donald Herbert MOORE's Father as Charles Herbert MOORE Thank you for sorting out Constance MOORE & Son Don C MOORE who I wasn't comfortable with. I now feel quite confident that I've the MOORE Family sorted and am amazed how it's all come together as it has with very much help from List members. Many thanks indeed. Robert Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of familyhistory Sent: Saturday, 8 April 2017 11:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Robert, One reason for Donald to be married across the river in Wirrall would be if it was the home of his future wife. After a bit of looking it appears a likely spouse for Donald H Moore would be the Eileen M Newcombe born Wirrall, Cheshire in 1933. This would make her about 12 years younger than Donald, and so age now about 84 if still alive. She would have been 19 at marriage in 1952. I think it was me who threw the middle name Herbert into the mix - his birth simply shows Donald H, it was the death in 1995 that matched with a Donald Herbert (actually there are two Donald Herbert Moores who died in 1995, the other one died in Sussex on 24 April according to probate records and was born in 1919 ) both for age and location. Donald Herbert seemed likely if his father was Charles Herbert. Regarding the "Don" Moore shown on the shipping list there is a Don Conde Moore shown in the California death index - born 3 Oct 1920 in Oregon and died 15 October 1988 in California. His mother's name is simply given as "Conde" but everything matches a US 1930 Census record for Portland Ohio : Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Donald H Moore Head M 34 Oregon (Traffic Manager, Shell Oil) Constance L Moore Wife F 32 England Don C Moore Son M 9 Oregon Constance was born Constance Conde and can be found in the 1901 and 1911 UK censuses in Birkenhead and New Ferry, Cheshire. It seems likely that Constance married an American soldier returning from service in Europe at the close of WW I. They went to the U.S. but she returned with her son to visit her family. The 1940 census shows Constance as "Divorced" and her son, Don C is living with her. Constance and Don (shown as Don Condi) are shown on a shipping list arriving at New York from Liverpool on Aug 16 1932. Constance is shown as Naturalised US Citizen "by marriage" and their address is 515 East 32nd Court No. Portland Oregon. Don's birthplace is shown as Molalla, Oregon. For completeness Don Conde Moore married Elaine A Velarde Hirth on 29 Sept 1956 in Nevada U.S. So there doesn't appear to be a Moore connection with either the Donald H who married Constance Conde or their son Don. Sometimes it's easier to prove that someone isn't related than to show that they were. -- Bob C

Robert, One reason for Donald to be married across the river in Wirrall would be if it was the home of his future wife. After a bit of looking it appears a likely spouse for Donald H Moore would be the Eileen M Newcombe born Wirrall, Cheshire in 1933. This would make her about 12 years younger than Donald, and so age now about 84 if still alive. She would have been 19 at marriage in 1952. I think it was me who threw the middle name Herbert into the mix - his birth simply shows Donald H, it was the death in 1995 that matched with a Donald Herbert (actually there are two Donald Herbert Moores who died in 1995, the other one died in Sussex on 24 April according to probate records and was born in 1919 ) both for age and location. Donald Herbert seemed likely if his father was Charles Herbert. Regarding the "Don" Moore shown on the shipping list there is a Don Conde Moore shown in the California death index - born 3 Oct 1920 in Oregon and died 15 October 1988 in California. His mother's name is simply given as "Conde" but everything matches a US 1930 Census record for Portland Ohio : Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Donald H Moore Head M 34 Oregon (Traffic Manager, Shell Oil) Constance L Moore Wife F 32 England Don C Moore Son M 9 Oregon Constance was born Constance Conde and can be found in the 1901 and 1911 UK censuses in Birkenhead and New Ferry, Cheshire. It seems likely that Constance married an American soldier returning from service in Europe at the close of WW I. They went to the U.S. but she returned with her son to visit her family. The 1940 census shows Constance as "Divorced" and her son, Don C is living with her. Constance and Don (shown as Don Condi) are shown on a shipping list arriving at New York from Liverpool on Aug 16 1932. Constance is shown as Naturalised US Citizen "by marriage" and their address is 515 East 32nd Court No. Portland Oregon. Don's birthplace is shown as Molalla, Oregon. For completeness Don Conde Moore married Elaine A Velarde Hirth on 29 Sept 1956 in Nevada U.S. So there doesn't appear to be a Moore connection with either the Donald H who married Constance Conde or their son Don. Sometimes it's easier to prove that someone isn't related than to show that they were. -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk On 07/04/2017 11:34, Robert N. G. KEMSLEY wrote: > Good evening; > > Armed with the information sent me; I visited the site and found as > you suggested; where the Marriage took place and leading on from there; also > found the 2 children to the marriage, which is great. > > Although at this stage: I am quite sure this is the marriage I was > seeking: I've yet to prove. > > Many thanks indeed for your interest. > > Regards: > > Robert > > Australia > > >

Hi Robert Family Search has Maxwell Benjamin MOORE born 25th September 1922 dying in November 2006  and Brian Kemsley MOORE born 28th January 1920 dying 1978. Regards Kerry (Young)

Good morning Dot: I seem to be losing the plot somewhere along the line. Again if I understand you: Constance and Son Don MOORE b) 1921 seemingly in the USA and on the ship returning to the UK in 1932: could be the Donald H MOORE who in 1952; Married Eileen Mary NEWCOMBE? I guess that's possible, but you would need to know if and what was Don's 2nd Christian Name? As you say; a Marriage Certificate would clear the issue up. Robert Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dot holden Sent: Saturday, 8 April 2017 7:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family The Donald H Moore marriage in 1919 relates to the wife (Constance) and son (Don Moore) on the 1932 ship list coming back into the UK - whether this Don Moore who was also born 1921 could be the same Donald H Moore who married in 1955 is the question. Sending for the marriage certificate would resolve this regards, Dot On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 9:59 PM, sally roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe I've got this wrong in my head, but the Donald H Moore we've > been chasing was born in 1921 to Charles and Lily. Therefore this > Donald H Moore can't be the son as he's old enough to marry in 1919. > > That tells me that the marriage in 1952 stands more chance of being > your Donald H Moore, but of course, purchasing the certificate is the > only way of proving it is a correct decision. > > Gotta love a bit of teasing genealogy > > Kind regards, > Sally

Good morning Sally: I also am now a little confused. What you are saying is: that the Marriage in 1919 between Donald H MOORE & Constance CONDE isn't the Marriage we were looking for and if that's the case: I would agree, as the Marriage took place 2 years before my Donald H MOORE was Born? Again: If that's the case; we are back to the 1952 Marriage between Donald H MOORE & Eileen Mary NEWCOMBE? I think you found Sally; that Donald H MOORE'S 2nd Christian Name was Herbert? How did you find that out and what of his Brothers, Brian K MOORE b) 1920 & Maxwell B MOORE b) 1922? The UK have the Census to rely on for researching Family Members, whereas here in Australia we've only the Electoral Rolls and I am surprised that the UK Electoral Rolls are not searchable as are ours, as it would help very much in finding Family Members after the 1911 Census. Just had a quick look at FREE BMD and cannot find children to MOORE - CONDE between 1900-1930 just as a matter of interest. Many thanks again Sally: Keep up the good work. Robert Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sally roberts Sent: Saturday, 8 April 2017 6:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Maybe I've got this wrong in my head, but the Donald H Moore we've been chasing was born in 1921 to Charles and Lily. Therefore this Donald H Moore can't be the son as he's old enough to marry in 1919. That tells me that the marriage in 1952 stands more chance of being your Donald H Moore, but of course, purchasing the certificate is the only way of proving it is a correct decision. Gotta love a bit of teasing genealogy Kind regards, Sally From: LANCSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert N. G. KEMSLEY <[email protected]> Sent: 07 April 2017 01:19 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family          Good morning Sally:         Just when I was beginning to think this issued was being tied up nicely?         I could be wrong, but; I still feel the correct Marriage was found earlier, but; I could be wrong.         Re this found Marriage of Donald H MOORE to Constance CONDE Jun Quarter 1919? I don't know what to think about it?         Robert         Australia        -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sally roberts Sent: Friday, 7 April 2017 12:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Well spotted, Dot, good catch! I had seen the marriage for this potential couple, but ruled it out because of a possible marriage entry, two years before the Donald in question was born: Name:   Donald H Date of Registration:   1919 Apr-May-Jun Registration district:  Wirral Inferred County:        Cheshire Spouse: Constance Volume Number:  8a Page number:    1171 Name Donald H Moore Constance Conde Regards, Sally :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources:  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator  at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning Mike: That's always possible, but you would need to know both parents and when they left the UK? Robert Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Morris Sent: Friday, 7 April 2017 10:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Maybe they took out American citizenship while living in the USA. I am a Canadian citizen although I was originally born in England. Regards, Mike MorrisToronto Canada. From: Robert N. G. KEMSLEY <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Good morning Dot: Many thanks indeed. Yes; It would be most interesting to obtain the Marriage Certificate to confirm one way or another, but in the meanwhile: armed with the Passenger List information that you found: I found the entry on "Ancestry" and I don't know what to think about it as both Mother and Child were USA Citizens and although Don is of the right age: indications are from the List that although they planned to stay in the UK; their final destination was "Foreign Countries? It will give me something to think about and to keep in the back of my mind. Many thanks indeed. Robert Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dot holden Sent: Thursday, 6 April 2017 11:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Just a word of caution - I would send for the marriage certificate to be sure this is the right person as there is a Don Moore travelling with a Constance Moore shown on a ship passenger list returning to the UK at 7 King Street Rock Ferry Wirral from the USA on the Scythia. Constance is 37 and is listed as a housewife. NAME: Don Moore BIRTH: abt 1921 DEPARTURE: New York, New York, United States ARRIVAL: 7 Jun 1932 - Liverpool, England Dot

The Donald H Moore marriage in 1919 relates to the wife (Constance) and son (Don Moore) on the 1932 ship list coming back into the UK - whether this Don Moore who was also born 1921 could be the same Donald H Moore who married in 1955 is the question. Sending for the marriage certificate would resolve this regards, Dot On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 9:59 PM, sally roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe I've got this wrong in my head, but the Donald H Moore we've been > chasing was born in 1921 to Charles and Lily. Therefore this Donald H > Moore can't be the son as he's old enough to marry in 1919. > > That tells me that the marriage in 1952 stands more chance of being your > Donald H Moore, but of course, purchasing the certificate is the only way > of proving it is a correct decision. > > Gotta love a bit of teasing genealogy > > Kind regards, > Sally > > > > > >

Maybe I've got this wrong in my head, but the Donald H Moore we've been chasing was born in 1921 to Charles and Lily. Therefore this Donald H Moore can't be the son as he's old enough to marry in 1919. That tells me that the marriage in 1952 stands more chance of being your Donald H Moore, but of course, purchasing the certificate is the only way of proving it is a correct decision. Gotta love a bit of teasing genealogy Kind regards, Sally From: LANCSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert N. G. KEMSLEY <[email protected]> Sent: 07 April 2017 01:19 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family           Good morning Sally:         Just when I was beginning to think this issued was being tied up nicely?         I could be wrong, but; I still feel the correct Marriage was found earlier, but; I could be wrong.         Re this found Marriage of Donald H MOORE to Constance CONDE Jun Quarter 1919? I don't know what to think about it?         Robert         Australia         -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sally roberts Sent: Friday, 7 April 2017 12:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Well spotted, Dot, good catch! I had seen the marriage for this potential couple, but ruled it out because of a possible marriage entry, two years before the Donald in question was born: Name:   Donald H Date of Registration:   1919 Apr-May-Jun Registration district:  Wirral Inferred County:        Cheshire Spouse: Constance Volume Number:  8a Page number:    1171 Name    Donald H Moore  Constance Conde Regards, Sally :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources:  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator  at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good evening; Armed with the information sent me; I visited the site and found as you suggested; where the Marriage took place and leading on from there; also found the 2 children to the marriage, which is great. Although at this stage: I am quite sure this is the marriage I was seeking: I've yet to prove. Many thanks indeed for your interest. Regards: Robert Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of familyhistory Sent: Friday, 7 April 2017 12:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Robert, If you check CheshireBMD for the 1952 marriage it shows just where Donald & Eileen married: Surname Forename(s) Spouse's Surname Spouse's Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Region Registers At Reference MOORE , Donald Herbert = NEWCOMBE Eileen Mary 1952 Burton, St Nicholas Cheshire Cheshire West CE7/1/266 The certificate (which can be ordered online) should give Donald Herbert's father's name and enable you to check if this is the right marriage. If it is, there are two Moore/ Newcombe births in the 10 years following the 1952 marriage in the area : Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Jun 1953 MOORE Robert S NEWCOMBE Birkenhead 10a 28 Births Jun 1955 MOORE Richard J NEWCOMBE Wirral 10a 869 HTH

Maybe they took out American citizenship while living in the USA. I am a Canadian citizen although I was originally born in England. Regards, Mike MorrisToronto Canada. From: Robert N. G. KEMSLEY <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family     Good morning Dot:     Many thanks indeed.     Yes; It would be most interesting to obtain the Marriage Certificate to confirm one way or another, but in the meanwhile: armed with the Passenger List information that you found: I found the entry on "Ancestry" and I don't know what to think about it as both Mother and Child were USA Citizens and although Don is of the right age: indications are from the List that although they planned to stay in the UK; their final destination was "Foreign Countries?     It will give me something to think about and to keep in the back of my mind.     Many thanks indeed.     Robert     Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dot holden Sent: Thursday, 6 April 2017 11:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Just a word of caution - I would send for the marriage certificate to be sure this is the right person as there is a Don Moore travelling with a Constance Moore shown on a ship passenger list  returning to the UK at 7 King Street Rock Ferry Wirral from the USA on the Scythia.  Constance is 37 and is listed as a housewife. NAME:  Don Moore BIRTH:  abt 1921 DEPARTURE:  New York, New York, United States ARRIVAL:  7 Jun 1932 - Liverpool, England Dot :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources:  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator  at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning Sally: Just when I was beginning to think this issued was being tied up nicely? I could be wrong, but; I still feel the correct Marriage was found earlier, but; I could be wrong. Re this found Marriage of Donald H MOORE to Constance CONDE Jun Quarter 1919? I don't know what to think about it? Robert Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sally roberts Sent: Friday, 7 April 2017 12:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Well spotted, Dot, good catch! I had seen the marriage for this potential couple, but ruled it out because of a possible marriage entry, two years before the Donald in question was born: Name: Donald H Date of Registration: 1919 Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Wirral Inferred County: Cheshire Spouse: Constance Volume Number: 8a Page number: 1171 Name Donald H Moore Constance Conde Regards, Sally

Good morning Dot: Many thanks indeed. Yes; It would be most interesting to obtain the Marriage Certificate to confirm one way or another, but in the meanwhile: armed with the Passenger List information that you found: I found the entry on "Ancestry" and I don't know what to think about it as both Mother and Child were USA Citizens and although Don is of the right age: indications are from the List that although they planned to stay in the UK; their final destination was "Foreign Countries? It will give me something to think about and to keep in the back of my mind. Many thanks indeed. Robert Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dot holden Sent: Thursday, 6 April 2017 11:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Charles Herbert MOORE and family Just a word of caution - I would send for the marriage certificate to be sure this is the right person as there is a Don Moore travelling with a Constance Moore shown on a ship passenger list returning to the UK at 7 King Street Rock Ferry Wirral from the USA on the Scythia. Constance is 37 and is listed as a housewife. NAME: Don Moore BIRTH: abt 1921 DEPARTURE: New York, New York, United States ARRIVAL: 7 Jun 1932 - Liverpool, England Dot