Hello everyone For your reading pleasure, here are the subjects of posts made on the Lancashire message board in March. Perhaps a thread or two will be of interest. . . Liverpool area: BRADSHAW, WEST, KENNY, RYDING, IDDON . . . . George Richard Holahan birth record . . Surnames HOLDEN and COVENTRY from Liverpool Area . . . . James BROUGHTON b.1730 in Altham, Lancashire . . Richard Hughes , Elsie Kirkbride, nee Moore . . . . John Proctor and Anne Gardner, Cockerham, Lancashire, 1809 . . Liverpool Royal Infirmary . . . . BROGAN in Wigan, Lancashire . . SANDIFORD of Manchester, Lancashire . . . . Connelly family . . THOMAS WARD m. Catherine Manion 1875 BOLTON ~ I have a copy of Marriage cert . . Hodge Lane, Prestwich . . . . Liverpool census & electoral records 1930 onward? . . Liverpool ambulances in the late Victorian period . . . . 1880 to 1900 Liverpool Street Conditions . . Electoral Rolls . . . . Records for Illegitimate child . . JAMES GRAY c. 1850 . . . . SCOWCROFT from Bradshaw . Tottington. Ringley, Bolton . . COCKLE in Gorton Manchester The messages can be viewed (and replies can be posted) at http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/mb.ashx or http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/mb.ashx Like the mailing lists, the message boards are completely free. You do need to register before using the message boards, but registration only requires a name and a working email address. Kind regards, Lynne

Good morning John: A fresh new day and hopefully a very much clearer mind??? I see there are newer messages from you and mention of my contacting you off list as I am now doing, but I thought I would go back to the following paragraph which I just cannot understand, but have been since been directed to FIndMyPast whereon there is an explanation as to what the 1939 Register was all about, but I cannot see anything therein re the changing of names? But would imagine that you would have to keep your particulars up to date for rationing purposes etc? Just as a point of interest; we also had rationing cards here in Australia with my beloved still having some of her Mother's. "There is an Elizabeth MOORE born 23 June 1922 and living at 39 Sandway Crescent in Liverpool in the 1939Register who married a MOORE. Elizabeth married ? MOORE before 12 October 1943 (as that is the date of the change of name in the 1939Register. The family is headed by Robert D PRICE who married an Alice M JONES in 1928 in St Mary, Kirkdale. There are only two Elizabeth MOORE's registered in 1922 in Liverpool and one has a mothers' maiden name of JONES which would imply that she was illegitimate. You would need the birth certificate to prove it. Mind it could have been a JONES/JONES marriage!!" "There is an Elizabeth MOORE" ? Had it been Elizabeth JONES, I would have then understood as Elizabeth MOORE didn't come into being until she married MOORE? It seems to me that Elizabeth MOORE or JONES b) 23 June 1922 when registered; lived 39 Sandway Crescent, Liverpool, married MOORE 2 Oct 1943 and the change of name was recorded 12 Oct 1943? Then it seems Robert D PRICE Married Alice M JONES 1928 St. Mary, Kirkdale and that Elizabeth JONES was the illegitimate Dau of Alice? Robert

Good evening Bob: A lot of work has gone into your finds which is bringing it all together and we now have a Sister and parents for Elizabeth. Many thanks indeed. Robert Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of familyhistory Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 6:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Maxwell Benjamin MOOR b) 1922 And that shows as a witness Ivy Jones who was likely to be Elizabeth's sister. Checking LAN-OPC marriages for Ivy there are two likely entries : Marriage: 20 Dec 1952 St Mary, Wavertree, Lancashire, England Thomas Chapple - 38 years, Factory Worker, Bachelor, 61 Byng Road, Liverpool 4. Ivy Jones - 25 years, Factory Worker, Spinster, 8 Waldgrave Place, Liverpool 15. Groom's Father: Martin James Chapple, Labourer Bride's Father: Richard Jones, Deceased, Glass Blower Witness: H. B. Jones; N. Corner Married by Licence by: C. P. K. Barnes Rector Register: Marriages 1940 - 1959, Page 126, Entry 251 Source: LDS Film 1546069 which shows she would have been born ~ 1927 and : Baptism: 5 Aug 1927 St John the Evangelist, Knotty Ash, Lancashire, England Ivy Jones - [Child] of Richard Jones & Alice Margaret Abode: 13 9th Avenue Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: Frank J. Powell Register: Baptisms 1879 - 1933, Page 218, Entry 1743 Source: LDS Film 2147887 which suggests Alice Margaret may also have been Elizabeth's mother. There is a possible marriage at Kirkdale, St Mary in 1919 between a Richard Jones and a Alice M Studdart and sure enough FreeBMD gives Ivy's mothers maiden surname as "Studdart" and one for Elizabeth : Births Sep 1922 Jones, Elizabeth Studdart W.Derby 8b 845 So it looks like Elizabeth's parents were Richard Jones and Alice Margaret Studdart. -- Bob C

Good evening John; Perhaps it's that I am tiring that I just cannot take in the 1st paragraph of your welcomed message. Maxwell Benjamin MOORE I know about, but it's his wife Elizabeth Jones that I know nothing about nor if Maxwell & Elizabeth had children which it would seem they did have Maureen 1944 & Carole 1946, and after reading your message further down; have excluded Alan Jun 1/4 1943, but again; thinking about; it he was conceived early April??? Re the 1939 Register; I know of it from a fellow list member, but; I don't understand "(as that is the date of the change of name in the 1939Register)? Yes; as I am finding; there are just far to many MOORE/JONES children, finding 9 Born in the Liverpool South District. I've been researching Ancestry & FREE BMD for information and also Family Search which didn't help. I will return to your message perhaps in the morning when I've a clearer mind. Many thanks: Robert Australia -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Hanson Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 3:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Maxwell Benjamin MOOR b) 1922 Robert There is an Elizabeth MOORE born 23 June 1922 and living at 39 Sandway Crescent in Liverpool in the 1939Register who married a MOORE. Elizabeth married ? MOORE before 12 October 1943 (as that is the date of the change of name in the 1939Register. The family is headed by Robert D PRICE who married an Alice M JONES in 1928 in St Mary, Kirkdale. There are only two Elizabeth MOORE's registered in 1922 in Liverpool and one has a mothers' maiden name of JONES which would imply that she was illegitimate. You would need the birth certificate to prove it. Mind it could have been a JONES/JONES marriage!! Of the children that Kerry mentioned I am not sure that Alan is yours as they are born in Q2 and therefore 6 months before Maxwell married. There are too many Moore/JONES children to know exactly who are yours. The ones that Kerry has mentioned are only some of those who were born in Liverpool South RD. As Elizabeth is visible in the 1939Register in means that she has almost certainly died. Now this is where it starts to get a little tricky and it is always helpful to know which websites someone has used - certainly for searching the GRO indexes. FreeBMD only goes as far as 1983 and is not complete yet at the later stages. All of the other stop in 2005/6 as that is the limit of the database that the GRO issued went. For births, marriages and deaths beyond that you need to visit in person on the repositories in the UK that hold them. These are listed here https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know. asp#FamilyHistory1 If this is the correct Elizabeth (and you would need to get the marriage certificate to prove it) then she died in November 1989 in Liverpool. It would appear that neither Elizabeth nor Maxwell left wills. Hope this helps Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference for 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk

Mike - I think this may a record for one of the sons of your William and Elizabeth - he was a sailor on the MV Oil Pioneer 160604 London Name: William O'Kea Age: 45 Birth Date: abt 1895 Death Date: 8 Jun 1940 Cemetery: The Tower Hill Memorial Part XI Moa-O'su Burial Country: England Father: William O'Kea Mother: Elizabeth O'Kea Region or Memorial: Memorial Register His inscription is on Panel 76 It is William's wife Elizabeth who is listed as born in Singapore - William was a Ship's Steward so they may have met when he was in Singapore as a result of his job or perhaps she travelled back to the UK on his ship. They were living at 11 Wilkie Place on the 1901 Scotland census ( in Leith) . Dot On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Rhoda Overson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mike > > The marriage of William O'kea and Elizabeth Graham was registered in the > Newington district of Edinburgh in 1894. You, or your friend, can download > the image of the marriage registration at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk It > is a pay site. The document should give you the names of both sets of > parents including the maiden names of the mothers. > > Rhoda > >

> > His HOLLAND roots are from around Cuerden, Brownedge, Walton-le-Dale, > and Preston. His ancestors were Roman Catholic. We've worked our way > back to 1837 but we are now back to parish registers. I am now searching > for births in the Cuerden and Walton-le-Dale areas around 1794-1799. > > I've looked at the IGI Batches but I'm not sure whether Roman Catholic > records are included there. > > Can anyone help me to find out where I should be looking for these > records please? > > All help very much appreciated. > > > Some of the registers Jim Lancaster suggested are online on www.archive.org, although you may have to do a bit of searching to find them as they tend to appear just as Lancashire Catholic registers and you have to work out which volume you want. Mike Morris's suggestion of the 1767 Returns of Papists is very good. It is not online but you might be able to borrow it from a library or get someone to look up the names you want. I have a copy of vol VI of Lancashire Registers which includes Leagram and Chipping; Lee House Chapel, Thornley; Ribchester;Dunkenhalgh and St Mary's Enfield.All there is in there for Hollands is: parents John and Elizabeth Holland, 14 apr 1804 bap Margaret godparents John Proctor Jane Baldwin and 4 nov 1805 Henry Holland godparents James Broadley Jane Baldwin. Of course you know you will find all the marriages (and most burials) in the Anglican registers until 1837. > >

Mike The marriage of William O'kea and Elizabeth Graham was registered in the Newington district of Edinburgh in 1894. You, or your friend, can download the image of the marriage registration at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk It is a pay site. The document should give you the names of both sets of parents including the maiden names of the mothers. Rhoda -----Original Message----- From: Mike Morris Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 4:18 PM To: Christine Benson ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] O'Kea family in 1911 Liverpool On rechecking the three marriages in Liverpool married to Chinese gentlemen I notice two of the O'Kea ladies have the same names as those shown in the 1911 census. So it appears the ladies father was Chinese and possibly their surname was changed or sounded like O'Kea. My friend thought his mother their sister had a connection to the Philippine's. His father was from the Philippine's so this clears up a few of the family's question. He sailed from Liverpool now it looks like he also sailed from a port in Leith. Now I hope the friend joins the gang and gets fixated on his family history. All my best, Mike Morris Toronto Canada

Laurence, This site may be able to help you - http://catholicfhs.online/ On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: > Check with the Catholic Family History Society. I'm sorry but I don't > have an address or website for them. They have a few Lancashire PR's on CD. > > > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:20:27 +0100, Lawrence Lowe wrote: > > Hello, hopefully I have my mailer settings set correctly. > > I'm Lawrence Lowe, a newbee to this group. I'm a Worcestershire lad > living in Scotland helping a friend from Lancashire trace his family > history. I'm familiar with family history research but not with the > details of the Lancashire area. > > His HOLLAND roots are from around Cuerden, Brownedge, Walton-le-Dale, > and Preston. His ancestors were Roman Catholic. We've worked our way > back to 1837 but we are now back to parish registers. I am now searching > for births in the Cuerden and Walton-le-Dale areas around 1794-1799. > > I've looked at the IGI Batches but I'm not sure whether Roman Catholic > records are included there. > > Can anyone help me to find out where I should be looking for these > records please? > > All help very much appreciated. > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ > lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ > lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bob There is one minor error in the information on the 1939Register. The date shown for the change on name is in fact the date that the correction was made and not the date of marriage. My parents married on 22 September 1945 but the marriage amendment on my mother was not until 4 October 1945. There are also a couple of other things that FMP do not tell us. The photocopied pages are because the original become too damaged to use so it photocopied by the NHS. The changes in colour are helpful. Those in red appear to have been made by the person checking the original entry from the schedules Those in green are changes in name (nor necessarily all marriages) once the registers where with the NHS. As bob says there are errors and as always I correct them if I can I the hope that someone will correct the ones that I am looking for! Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of familyhistory Sent: 10 April 2017 15:39 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Maxwell Benjamin MOOR b) 1922 Robert, The key was the marriage entry that Kerry found, my bit was reasonably easy once I spotted Ivy. It's a matter of being familiar with what data is out there and how to get the best out of it. I must admit I normally wouldn't look at LAN-OPC for marriages in the 1950's, they must be modern additions. John's 1939 Register entry is also a mine of info if you can interpret it - his find of the death of Richard Jones and Alice's re-marriage to Robert Price gives us a few half-siblings for Elizabeth, Ethel and Ivy. You might want to read http://www.findmypast.co.uk/1939register/what-is-the-1939-register which gives an explanation of the Register although what it doesn't mention is that it later formed the basis for NHS records and was updated with later information when, for instance, a woman married. This is how John could infer that Ethel F Jones married a North (it actually appears to show her first marrying a Britton and then a North). If the person was born less than 100 years ago and their death was not entered in the Register then the entry would be redacted, so children may often not be identifiable. There's quite a bit of "cryptic" annotations if you can examine the image - Elizabeth's half-sister Alice M Price, born 16 Feb 1929 has an annotation 20.4.50 M NHA, her surname Price is crossed through and Kaye added. This appears to mean that she married on 20/4/1950 and her married name was Kaye. A check using FreeBMD show a marriage in Q2 1950, Liverpool South between Percy R KAYE and Alice M PRICE. As with all transcriptions there can be horrendous errors - I was only able to locate my father in the Register by using his date of birth and knowing just where he was likely to be living. The name as recorded was correct but the transcription (and thus any search) bore little resemblance to what had been written. -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk On 10/04/2017 13:01, Robert N. G. KEMSLEY wrote: > Good evening Bob: > > A lot of work has gone into your finds which is bringing it all together and we now have a Sister and parents for Elizabeth. > > Many thanks indeed. > > Robert > > Australia > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another often overlooked source of Catholic records is The Internet Archive ( https://archive.org/ ) - they have some Lancashire publications of the Catholic Record Society. Volume XXIII is the Registers of Brindle and Samlesbury and a quick search in that throws up 152 matches for Cuerdale. On 10/04/2017 16:45, Linda wrote: > Check with the Catholic Family History Society. I'm sorry but I don't have an address or website for them. They have a few Lancashire PR's on CD. > > > -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk

A very warm welcome to this list, Lawrence. Who in particular are you looking for please? Don't forget also, that many Catholic marriages (and other non-conformist ones) early on HAD to be held at a C of E Church, so you may just be lucky with finding marriages for the family on line. June On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:20:27 +0100, Lawrence Lowe  wrote: Hello, hopefully I have my mailer settings set correctly. I'm Lawrence Lowe, a newbee to this group. I'm a Worcestershire lad living in Scotland helping a friend from Lancashire trace his family history. I'm familiar with family history research but not with the details of the Lancashire area. His HOLLAND roots are from around Cuerden, Brownedge, Walton-le-Dale, and Preston. His ancestors were Roman Catholic. We've worked our way back to 1837 but we are now back to parish registers. I am now searching for births in the Cuerden and Walton-le-Dale areas around 1794-1799. I've looked at the IGI Batches but I'm not sure whether Roman Catholic records are included there. Can anyone help me to find out where I should be looking for these records please? All help very much appreciated. :-+

A search record that might uncover some early type of census clue for Catholics in that area are the' Papist returns of 1767 Regards, Mike Morris   Toronto Canada From: Linda <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; Lancsgen <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [LAN] Hello from new subscriber His HOLLAND roots are from around Cuerden, Brownedge, Walton-le-Dale, and Preston. His ancestors were Roman Catholic.<snip>

Hello, hopefully I have my mailer settings set correctly. I'm Lawrence Lowe, a newbee to this group. I'm a Worcestershire lad living in Scotland helping a friend from Lancashire trace his family history. I'm familiar with family history research but not with the details of the Lancashire area. His HOLLAND roots are from around Cuerden, Brownedge, Walton-le-Dale, and Preston. His ancestors were Roman Catholic. We've worked our way back to 1837 but we are now back to parish registers. I am now searching for births in the Cuerden and Walton-le-Dale areas around 1794-1799. I've looked at the IGI Batches but I'm not sure whether Roman Catholic records are included there. Can anyone help me to find out where I should be looking for these records please? All help very much appreciated.

Hi Robert Maxwell’s marriage to Elizabeth Jones is on the Lancashire OPC site. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html Regards Kerry (Young)

And a later search shows up the Price/Kaye marriage on LAN-OPC : Marriage: 1 Apr 1950 St Mary, Wavertree, Lancashire, England Percy Robson Kaye - 26, Turner and Fitter, Bachelor, 379 Walton Lane, Liverpool 4. Alice May Price - 21, Spinster, 8 Waldgrave Place, Liverpool 15. Groom's Father: John Robson Kaye, Labourer (Retired) Bride's Father: Robert David Price, Deceased, Bricklayer Witness: D. Graves; E. S. Kaye; A. E. Hewitt Married by Licence by: A. H. Mock Rector Performed at: St Mary's Parochial Hall Register: Marriages 1940 - 1959, Page 100, Entry 200 Source: LDS Film 1546069 Bob On 10/04/2017 15:38, familyhistory wrote: > Robert, > > <snip> > > John's 1939 Register entry is also a mine of info if you can interpret > it - his find of the death of Richard Jones and Alice's re-marriage to > Robert Price gives us a few half-siblings for Elizabeth, Ethel and Ivy. > > <snip> There's quite a bit of "cryptic" annotations if you can > examine the image - Elizabeth's half-sister Alice M Price, born 16 Feb > 1929 has an annotation 20.4.50 M NHA, her surname Price is crossed > through and Kaye added. This appears to mean that she married on > 20/4/1950 and her married name was Kaye. A check using FreeBMD show > a marriage in Q2 1950, Liverpool South between Percy R KAYE and Alice > M PRICE.

Robert, The key was the marriage entry that Kerry found, my bit was reasonably easy once I spotted Ivy. It's a matter of being familiar with what data is out there and how to get the best out of it. I must admit I normally wouldn't look at LAN-OPC for marriages in the 1950's, they must be modern additions. John's 1939 Register entry is also a mine of info if you can interpret it - his find of the death of Richard Jones and Alice's re-marriage to Robert Price gives us a few half-siblings for Elizabeth, Ethel and Ivy. You might want to read http://www.findmypast.co.uk/1939register/what-is-the-1939-register which gives an explanation of the Register although what it doesn't mention is that it later formed the basis for NHS records and was updated with later information when, for instance, a woman married. This is how John could infer that Ethel F Jones married a North (it actually appears to show her first marrying a Britton and then a North). If the person was born less than 100 years ago and their death was not entered in the Register then the entry would be redacted, so children may often not be identifiable. There's quite a bit of "cryptic" annotations if you can examine the image - Elizabeth's half-sister Alice M Price, born 16 Feb 1929 has an annotation 20.4.50 M NHA, her surname Price is crossed through and Kaye added. This appears to mean that she married on 20/4/1950 and her married name was Kaye. A check using FreeBMD show a marriage in Q2 1950, Liverpool South between Percy R KAYE and Alice M PRICE. As with all transcriptions there can be horrendous errors - I was only able to locate my father in the Register by using his date of birth and knowing just where he was likely to be living. The name as recorded was correct but the transcription (and thus any search) bore little resemblance to what had been written. -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk On 10/04/2017 13:01, Robert N. G. KEMSLEY wrote: > Good evening Bob: > > A lot of work has gone into your finds which is bringing it all together and we now have a Sister and parents for Elizabeth. > > Many thanks indeed. > > Robert > > Australia > >

On rechecking the three marriages in Liverpool married to Chinese gentlemen I notice two of the O'Kea ladies have the same names as those shown in the 1911 census. So it appears the ladies father was Chinese and possibly their surname was changed or sounded like O'Kea.  My friend thought his mother their sister had a connection to the Philippine's. His father was from the Philippine's so this clears up a few of the family's question.  He sailed from Liverpool now it looks like he also sailed from a port in Leith. Now I hope the friend joins the gang and gets fixated on his family history. All my best, Mike Morris   Toronto Canada From: Mike Morris <[email protected]> To: Christine Benson <[email protected]>; SEND MAIL LANCASHIRE <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 8:59 AM  Wow! Christine, have you ever seen such a mix in birth places. No wonder I could not find them. The head was born in China, His wife in Leith. some of the children in Leith. Looks like they married in Scotland and later moved to Liverpool. Now its strange I did see a Chinese name in the Lancashire marriage records snip>

Hi Robert On FreeBMD there are 3 children being born to MOORE with JONES as the mother – Alan in 1943, Maureen in 1944 and Carole in 1946 with the Registration District Liverpool South. Regards Kerry (Young) From: Robert N. G. KEMSLEY Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 10:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] Seeking Information RE Maxwell Benjamin MOOR b) 1922 Still working away at the MOORE family. The list overall; has been extremely helpful with finding information re the family of Charles Herbert MOORE & Lily Ellen Florence KEMSLEY. From past postings; it was found Charles & Lily had 3 sons: Brian Kemsley MOORE b) 1920 Donald Herbert MOORE b) 1921 Maxwell Benjamin MOORE b) 1922 It is Maxwell Benjamin MOORE that I am currently interested in: finding he Died November 2006, Wigam & Leigh District, Lancashire. In the December 1/4 1943, Liverpool South District; Maxwell Married Elizabeth JONES and try as I might; that's where my research halts; not being able to find Elizabeth's Birth or Death and haven't been able to find if any children were born to the marriage. As to her Parents? Any ideas as to where I may be able to find such information, as I've exhausted every avenue I can think of. Robert Australia :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Check with the Catholic Family History Society. I'm sorry but I don't have an address or website for them. They have a few Lancashire PR's on CD. On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:20:27 +0100, Lawrence Lowe wrote: Hello, hopefully I have my mailer settings set correctly. I'm Lawrence Lowe, a newbee to this group. I'm a Worcestershire lad living in Scotland helping a friend from Lancashire trace his family history. I'm familiar with family history research but not with the details of the Lancashire area. His HOLLAND roots are from around Cuerden, Brownedge, Walton-le-Dale, and Preston. His ancestors were Roman Catholic. We've worked our way back to 1837 but we are now back to parish registers. I am now searching for births in the Cuerden and Walton-le-Dale areas around 1794-1799. I've looked at the IGI Batches but I'm not sure whether Roman Catholic records are included there. Can anyone help me to find out where I should be looking for these records please? All help very much appreciated. :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike On Family Search there is a Robert Graham O’Kea born Liverpool 1904 – could be a connection or a coincidence. Regards Kerry (Young) Brisbane From: Mike Morris Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 10:02 AM To: SEND MAIL LANCASHIRE Subject: [LAN] O'Kea family in 1911 Liverpool I am back again grovelling :))Please is there any chance one of our kind list members can help me to help a dear friend track down his grandparents in |Liverpool ? All he could remember was her name was Mary Elizabeth (Nee GRAHAM) O'Kea, she was born around Edinburgh, Scotland.  he never got to meet her but all her children were born in Liverpool. He does not know his granddads name. The feeling is she married Mr O'Kea in Liverpool. But I cannot trace any wedding in the free Lancashire records or the one covering England for this couple. Mary had the following children. Esther Born 1914 Abercromby, Liverpool. She was my friends mother. She had three brothers Thomas, Samuel and William O'Kea. He does not have there birth years. Can anyone track down Mary Elizabeth GRAHAM'S wedding to a Mr O'Kea. It would be before 1814. I did locate two more possible children. But my friend has never heard of them. The Lancs records show they came from Abercromby, Jean b1912 and Edward B1918 he died the same year. Kind regards and my thanks. Mike Morris Toronto Canada :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message