Linda You could try the Northern Mine Research Society http://www.nmrs.org.uk/ I certainly found the Hapton Valley disaster on there Unfortunately the old " Coal Mining History Resource Centre" seems to have disappeared. I have vague recollections of seeing a couple of years ago the owner was looking for someone to take it on. Don't forget that you can check ages in the new GRO death indexes (prior to 1866 in all the normal databases they do not have age) as it includes ages from 1837. And of course you can also search using mothers maiden name from 1837. The problem that you have is that there are no outbound passenger lists in the UK before 1890. So you are reliant on finding them on an inbound list somewhere. He could have gone to Canada rather than the USA and then gone across the border. Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: 26 June 2017 02:55 To: [email protected] Subject: [Norton AntiSpam][LAN] Isaac Hill Isaac Hill, born in Manchester or Stockport, Cheshire in 1828 to Matthew & Ann Hill, married Emma Jones in 1852 and had a daughter, Alice in 1853 and a son, Samuel in 1855. I have been unable to find anything on him or his family after that date. There is another Isaac & Emma in Barrow in Furness that I can trace from 1841 to 1901 who can't be the right one as my Isaac can be found in Ardwick, Manchester in 1841. Isaac Hill is a much more common name that I would have thought but I don't find any likely records in UK or on manifests for my Isaac. After searching for months, today I found an Isaac Hill in a mining accident in Whaley Bridge in 1857. This seems like a good reason for my not finding other records after this date, but it doesn't give enough information for me to be able to be sure this is the right Isaac. Can anyone please tell me where I might find more informaion on this mining accident. I used to have a link for mining accidents, but it doesn't work anymore. A death certificate wouldn't give his parent's names. This indicates his death in Stockport but he also lived up to at least 1855 in Ardwick. Cheshire BMD has nothing I can find and Cheshire OPC seems to be a dead link. I find nothing on his wife, Emma, or children, Alice & Samuel after this date. In 1841 he was a cotton piecer, at the time of his marriage and when his children were born he was a brewer, so mining was not his normal occupation. UK Coal Mining Accidents & Deaths Name: Isaac Hill Birth Year: abt 1830 Event Type: Death Event Year: 1857 Death Age: 27 Death Date: 13 Jan 1857 Death Place: Stockport, Cheshire, England Occupation: Miner Colliery: Whaley Bridge Owner: F.G. Gisborne Notes: Fall of roof. If there's no further information on this mining accident, can anyone find a reasonable immigration record? Thank you. Linda Pauwels in US

Isaac Hill, born in Manchester or Stockport, Cheshire in 1828 to Matthew & Ann Hill, married Emma Jones in 1852 and had a daughter, Alice in 1853 and a son, Samuel in 1855.  I have been unable to find anything on him or his family after that date.  There is another Isaac & Emma in Barrow in Furness that I can trace from 1841 to 1901 who can't be the right one as my Isaac can be found in Ardwick, Manchester in 1841.  Isaac Hill is a much more common name that I would have thought but I don't find any likely records in UK or on manifests for my Isaac.  After searching for months, today I found an Isaac Hill in a mining accident in Whaley Bridge in 1857.  This seems like a good reason for my not finding other records after this date, but it doesn't give enough information for me to be able to be sure this is the right Isaac.  Can anyone please tell me where I might find more informaion on this mining accident.  I used to have a link for mining accidents, but it doesn't work anymore.  A death certificate wouldn't give his parent's names.   This indicates his death in Stockport but he also lived up to at least 1855 in Ardwick. Cheshire BMD has nothing I can find and Cheshire OPC seems to be a dead link.  I find nothing on his wife, Emma, or children, Alice & Samuel after this date.  In 1841 he was a cotton piecer, at the time of his marriage and when his children were born he was a brewer, so mining was not his normal occupation. UK Coal Mining Accidents & Deaths Name:    Isaac Hill Birth Year:    abt 1830 Event Type:    Death Event Year:    1857 Death Age:    27 Death Date:    13 Jan 1857 Death Place:    Stockport, Cheshire, England Occupation:    Miner Colliery:    Whaley Bridge Owner:    F.G. Gisborne Notes:    Fall of roof. If there's no further information on this mining accident, can anyone find a reasonable immigration record? Thank you. Linda Pauwels in US

My father was Inspector Edgar MENZIES who worked for Liverpool Police from 1921 to 1950. He specialised in the invention of the Police radio system and I have been re-reading the newspaper clippings he kept during his time on the Force. Other names mentioned are: Photographed with my father in 1938: Councillor E J DEANE, Chairman of the Watch Committee Captain A C DAWSON Chief Constable of Birkenhead Alderman A R PRICE Councillor A MORROW Alderman W DENTON Weekly News, August 12th 1949 Another photograph - this time with Arthur GRUNDY (G2 HKA) Harry CAUNCE (G6 KS) Bob BRAMWELL (G2 RF) (all the above were radio hams, as was my father (G5 MQ) Miss Irene SHORT who was an ex WRNS radio operator. April 1938 A photograph in the local paper of the "new" wireless station which was built by Allerton Golf Course. The opening ceremony was attended by the Liverpool Watch Committee who were, according to the programme issued on the day ( and which includes a map of the area served by the radio transmitter): Chairman Councillor E J DEANE J.P. Vice Chairman Alderman W DENTION J.P. Committee: Aldermen James BOLGER J C CROSS J.P. T DOWD J.P. J M GRIFFITH J.P. L. HOGAN M.B.E. J.P. G M PLATT A R PRICE W T ROBERTS J.P R RUTHERFORD J.P. Sir James SEXTON C.B.E. J.P. R G SHELDON Councillors: W J AUSTIN R R BAILEY Mrs E M BRADDOCK J BRADDOCK R H BREMNER C G S GORDEN A GRIFFIN J JUDE Mrs M J LONGBOTTOM A MORROW D NICKSON M J REPPION G A STRONG J.P Also photocopies of the car used to fit the first "car" radio ( registration ALV 52). This shows my father and another officer (not named). I would be happy to send a copy of any of the above to anyone with a connection to these names. Dot Holden

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Messages from John Marsden, Lancashire. New data has been added at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk as follows: 19 May 2017: Added 2,529 Deaths for West Lancashire RD comprising: Ormskirk (1956-1961) Thanks are due to Graham Robinson for the above. -- 1 June 2017: Added 14,005 Births for Bolton RD comprising: Bolton North (1948-1953; Bolton South (1947-1967); Farnworth & Kearsley (1963-1967); Turton (1963-1967) Thanks are due to Bob Winder and his team for the above. 19 June 2017: Amended 17,693 Births for Manchester RD to include mother's maiden name, comprising: Hulme (1839-1865) Added 5,003 Deaths for StHelens RD comprising: Rainford (1837-1936) Thanks are due to Olwen Bird and to Pauline Hurst and her team for the above. John -- John Marsden Webmaster: www.lancashirebmd.org.uk www.cumbriabmd.org.uk www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk www.mlfhs.org.uk

>From time to time we all find certificates that you think will solve a problem and yet get you more frustrated. Carrying out a large one-name study makes it even harder and whilst I over solved most of the Halstead marriages post 1 July 1837 there are still one or two that are baffling. So I recently posted on the Halstead blog the first part of the list. I have the images to all of these so I am not replying on a transcription. You will find my notes after each one but if you can you help with any of these? 3 - Marriage by Banns on10 February 1852 at Chapel in Bacup, Lancashire. (Ancestry) William HALSTEAD was a Labourer of full age, a widower residing Back King Street. no father Jane WATTS was of full age, a widow residing in Back King Street. no father This is another marriage where the ages would make all the difference. I cannot find a suitable candidate for either living in Haslingden RD (the registration district covering Bacup). Who were they! 4 - Married by Banns on 28 November 1891 at St James, Bolton (Ancestry) John JOYNSON a Labourer aged 50, a widower residing at 10 Cagness Street. father John JOYNSON, an Engineer Mary Ellen WARDLEY a Weaver aged 46, a widow residing at 10 Cagness Street. father Alexander HALSTEAD, a Labourer. John and Mary Ellen were living as husband and wife in the 1891 census (RG12/3116 Folio 12 Page 17). There are two children with them both of which agree with the details in the new GRO indexes (see previous blog) of being the children of John's first wife Martha CRANK (1843-1888). Also with the family are a Sarah AUSTIN aged 65 and William AUSTIN aged 24. Looking for a possible marriage of a Mary Ellen to a WARDLEY there is only 1 in the Bolton area and that is a George WARDLEY to a Mary Ellen AUSTIN in 1869. That would mean that William was Mary Ellen's illegitimate son. There is no birth or baptism for a suitable Mary Ellen nor can I find an Alexander HALSTEAD to fit. No record can be found of them after the marriage. 5,6 and 7 All three took place at St Mary the Virgin, Deane (part of Bolton) (Ancestry) 5 - 6 Jun 1838 George MANN a Miner of full age, a bachelor residing in Halliwell. father Thomas MANN, a miner Mary HALSTED of full age, a spinster residing in Halliwell. father Joseph HALSTED, a Farmer 6 - 29 Jun 1838 Thomas HALSTED, an Engineer of full age, a widower residing in Halliwell. father john HALSTED, a miner Ann SMITH of full age, a spinster residing in Halliwell. father Adam SMITH, a Weaver 7 - 27 September 1846 Thomas WHALLEY a Carder of full age, a bachelor residing in Halliwell. father Adam WHALLEY, a Weaver Hannah HALSTEAD a minor, a spinster residing in Halliwell. father Thomas HALSTEAD, a Husbandman As all are of full age finding other information is extremely difficult. Even Hannah (who would have been born (1825-1830) if diffcult to find. Also none of the families appears to be residend in Halliwell. 8 - married by Banns on 10 November 1856 at St Mary, Eccles. George EDGE a Bricklayer of full age, a bachelor residing in Mossfield Terrace, Pendleton. father James EDGE, a Bricklayer. Sarah Ann HALSTEAD of full age, a spinster residing in Mossfield Terrace, Pendelton. father not listed They had two daughter Harrier Frances (1857-1858) and Sarah Ann (1859-?) both in Manchester Registration district. No trace of any after 1859. Did Sarah Ann die or George or did they move away! but again the lack of age makes it more difficult. 9 - married by Banns on 28 April 1839 at St Mary, Leigh, Lancashire. Edward MEADOWCROFT a Weaver of full age, a bachelor residing in Bedford. father James MEADOWCROFT, a Weaver Hannah HALLSTEAD of full age, a spinster residing in Bedford. father William HALLSTEAD, a Weaver Again another where the full age makes it difficult to prove exactly who she is. The later census would seem to imply that she was from Bolton. 10 - married by Banns on 28 April 1872 at St John, Manchester. Thomas HALSTEAD a Beamer aged 44, a widower residing at 1 Stephenson Street. father Edward HALSTEAD, a Beamer Jane SHARPLES aged 45, a widow residing at 1 Stephenson Street. father Richard SHARPLES, a Sawyer Now one would have thought that with all this information it would be easy to find Thomas but no. Can't find either in 1871 nor in 1881. There is a possible death of a Jane of the right age in Prestwich in 1898. 11 - 15 - These five marriages all took place in St Chad, Rochdale. 11 - 22 April 1844 William MARSHALL a Waever of full age, a widower residing in Scham? Road. father John MARSHALL, a Weaver Grace WILLIAMS of full age, a widow residing in Scham Road? father John HALSTEAD, a Weaver 12 - 2 December 1844 William WHITWORTH a Labourer of full age, a bachelor residing in Vicars Moss. father Thomas WHITWORTH, a Hatter Sarah HALSTEAD of full age, a spinster residing in Lock Bridge. father Benjamin HALSTEAD, a Weaver 13 - 21 August 1851 Thomas HALSTEAD a Blacksmith aged 21, a bachelor residing in Dunkirk. father was not listed Ellen ATKINSON aged 25, a spinster residing in Holland Street. father Samuel ATKINSON, Labourer 14 - 25 December 1858 James ASHWORTH a Labourer aged 22, a bachelor residing in Britannia. father not listed Mary HALSTEAD, aged 26, a spinster residing in Britannia, father George HALSTEAD a Labourer 15 - 31 May 1862 by Banns Edwin MILLS, a Warehouseman aged 31, a bachelor residing in Oldham Road. father Thomas MILLS, a Contractor Sarah WHITWORTH aged 34, a widow residing in Oldham Road. father Benjamin HALSTEAD, a Weaver With all of these it has not been possible to sort out who they are with any certainty other than the Sarah in marriage 12 and 15 is the same person. 16 - married at St Bartholomew, Whitworth on 12 October 1889 by Banns John BUTTERWORTH a Weaver of full age, a widower residing in Whitworth. father George BUTTERWORTH, Ostler (deceased) Mary Ann WHITTLES of full age, a widow residing in Whitworth. father John HALSTEAD (deceased) a Blacksmith Mary Ann HALSTEAD had married Samuel WHITTLE in 1879 in a non-conformist or register office marriage according to Lancashire BMD. Samuel appears to die aged 55 in Rochdale RD in Q2 1888.

The next meeting of Pendle and Burnley Branch of Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society will be on Wednesday 21st June when the subject will be “Wills and Probate Records” given by David Lambert in the meeting room at Colne Library, starting at 7.30pm - doors open at 7pm. All welcome. The meeting room is upstairs but there is a lift. David is the Secretary of Federation of Family History Societies and will tell us how much family history information can be gleaned from the will of an otherwise ordinary citizen. The address is Market Street, Colne, Lancashire, BB8 0AP Please note: Colne Library closes at 6pm. The meeting room is accessed via the rear entrance by the car park which is free in the evenings. See the website http://www.lfhhs-pendleandburnley.org.uk for further information. -- Colin Spiller [email protected]

Valda Depends on which websites you have tried. Both Ancestry and Findmypast both used the LDS 1881 census transcription to start with - this will obviously have been amended as people find errors. Also ensure that you don't try to put too much information in and the obvious one is to ignore the surname But that is not the only option. You could try The Genealogist - did their own transcription of 1881 https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ FreeCEN - like FreeBMD but not complete https://www.freecen.org.uk/ Look at the Census section of UKBMD http://ukbmd.org.uk/census There is a dedicated Blackburn mailing list in Rootsweb http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN.html Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of valda talbot Sent: 13 June 2017 14:23 To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] 1881 Census Please, can anyone tell me if there are any pages missing in the 1881 Census for Withnell or Blackburn? I am looking for a Margaret Duckworth (b: 1840 Waterford, Ireland), with a son, William Power, aged 7, born in Blackburn. Margaret was née Butler, before she married James Power (also from Waterford, Ireland), in 1856, in Blackburn. Margaret and James had 5 children - Mary Anne (1857); Ellen (1859); John Thomas (1861); Margaret (1864) and William (1874). I have not been able to find any of these children on the 1881 Census, although it is possible that both Mary Ann & Ellen could have married. James died somewhere between 1874 and 1877, although I have not found a death, yet, that fits. He was a bricklayer. Margaret married again in 1877, to a Robert Duckworth (quarryman), in Blackburn, but they seem to have moved almost straight away to Withnell and surrounds, where in 1883 they had a daughter Alice. In the 1891 census I have found Margaret with both William and Alice, and Robert working nearby. None of the girls appear in the Census after 1871. Can anyone suggest where I should search next? I live in Australia, so I am confined to what I can find on the net, Thank youVal Talbot :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please, can anyone tell me if there are any pages missing in the 1881 Census for Withnell or Blackburn? I am looking for a Margaret Duckworth (b: 1840 Waterford, Ireland), with a son, William Power, aged 7, born in Blackburn. Margaret was née Butler, before she married James Power (also from Waterford, Ireland), in 1856, in Blackburn. Margaret and James had 5 children - Mary Anne (1857); Ellen (1859); John Thomas (1861); Margaret (1864) and William (1874). I have not been able to find any of these children on the 1881 Census, although it is possible that both Mary Ann & Ellen could have married. James died somewhere between 1874 and 1877, although I have not found a death, yet, that fits. He was a bricklayer. Margaret married again in 1877, to a Robert Duckworth (quarryman), in Blackburn, but they seem to have moved almost straight away to Withnell and surrounds, where in 1883 they had a daughter Alice. In the 1891 census I have found Margaret with both William and Alice, and Robert working nearby. None of the girls appear in the Census after 1871. Can anyone suggest where I should search next? I live in Australia, so I am confined to what I can find on the net, Thank youVal Talbot

If it is any help this looks to be the marriage of William Power: Marriage: 14 Jan 1895 St Thomas, Blackburn, Lancashire, England William Power - 21, Carter, Bachelor, 105 Bolton Road, Withnell Catherine Breakell - 22, Weaver, Spinster, 9 Monk St. Groom's Father: James Power, Deceased Bride's Father: Abraham Breakell, Deceased, Spinner Witness: Isaac Breakell; Isabella Clark Married by Certificate by: R. W. Allan (curate) Register: Marriages 1893 - 1900, Page 39, Entry 77 And, as for Alice, this looks like her baptism: Baptism: 23 Jul 1882 St Mary and St John the Baptist (Pleasington Priory), Pleasington, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Alicia Duckworth - filia Roberti Duckworth & Margaritae (formerly Butler) Born: 7 Jul 1882 Godparents: Thomas Barker; Ellena Power Notes: Sub. Con. quia jam privatim baptisata erat ab heretica muliere Baptised by: Joannes McMullan Conf. Pass. Source: Original Register From the godparents it looks like there was still a connection to Margaret's deceased husband's family. So she may have gone by the name Elizabeth although shown on the 1891 census as just Alice. The odd thing is that not only cannot the family be located in 1881 but the only William Power whose birth was registered in Lancashire ~1874 was in Hulme, Manchester. The lack of a death for James in civil registrations could suggest that the family either used a different name for some reason or had spells out of the country. BobC On 13/06/2017 14:40, Rose-Ann Movsovic wrote: > Have you looked at the Lancs OPC. I found a marriage for a Mary Anne Butler Power of the right age in 1877. > > -- > Rose-Ann Movsovic > Honorary Fellow (formerly Collections Manager) > University of Reading Library > ________________________________________ > From: LANCSGEN [[email protected]] on behalf of valda talbot [[email protected]] > Sent: 13 June 2017 14:23 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LAN] 1881 Census > > Please, can anyone tell me if there are any pages missing in the 1881 > Census for Withnell or Blackburn? > > I am looking for a Margaret Duckworth (b: 1840 Waterford, Ireland), with a > son, William Power, aged 7, born in Blackburn. > > Margaret was née Butler, before she married James Power (also from > Waterford, Ireland), in 1856, in Blackburn. > > Margaret and James had 5 children - Mary Anne (1857); Ellen (1859); John > Thomas (1861); Margaret (1864) and William (1874). I have not been able to > find any of these children on the 1881 Census, although it is possible that > both Mary Ann & Ellen could have married. > > James died somewhere between 1874 and 1877, although I have not found a > death, yet, that fits. He was a bricklayer. > > Margaret married again in 1877, to a Robert Duckworth (quarryman), in > Blackburn, but they seem to have moved almost straight away to Withnell and > surrounds, where in 1883 they had a daughter Alice. > > In the 1891 census I have found Margaret with both William and Alice, and > Robert working nearby. None of the girls appear in the Census after 1871. > > Can anyone suggest where I should search next? I live in Australia, so I am > confined to what I can find on the net, > > Thank youVal Talbot > > -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk

Have you looked at the Lancs OPC. I found a marriage for a Mary Anne Butler Power of the right age in 1877. -- Rose-Ann Movsovic Honorary Fellow (formerly Collections Manager) University of Reading Library ________________________________________ From: LANCSGEN [[email protected]] on behalf of valda talbot [[email protected]] Sent: 13 June 2017 14:23 To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] 1881 Census Please, can anyone tell me if there are any pages missing in the 1881 Census for Withnell or Blackburn? I am looking for a Margaret Duckworth (b: 1840 Waterford, Ireland), with a son, William Power, aged 7, born in Blackburn. Margaret was née Butler, before she married James Power (also from Waterford, Ireland), in 1856, in Blackburn. Margaret and James had 5 children - Mary Anne (1857); Ellen (1859); John Thomas (1861); Margaret (1864) and William (1874). I have not been able to find any of these children on the 1881 Census, although it is possible that both Mary Ann & Ellen could have married. James died somewhere between 1874 and 1877, although I have not found a death, yet, that fits. He was a bricklayer. Margaret married again in 1877, to a Robert Duckworth (quarryman), in Blackburn, but they seem to have moved almost straight away to Withnell and surrounds, where in 1883 they had a daughter Alice. In the 1891 census I have found Margaret with both William and Alice, and Robert working nearby. None of the girls appear in the Census after 1871. Can anyone suggest where I should search next? I live in Australia, so I am confined to what I can find on the net, Thank youVal Talbot :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nivard, Yes, I have already submitted a change for the one record that was relevant to my family. I'll email them the full details and see what happens. Stuart > On 12 Jun 2017, at 17:59, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Stuart > > You can phone or email, or make contact via facebook, let them know what you have found > > It would not surprise me if you were not the first to point it out > > I would not hold your breath whilst awaiting the correction though, they are very slow at this sort of correction > > If you add a correction to one record, perhaps others may see it if searching for that place name > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 12-Jun-17 5:36 PM, Stuart J Phethean wrote: >> Shame, but I was hoping to find a lot of on-line trees on the same web site featuring Mrs Hultonia Media, but failed dismally :-) >> As an aside, how do I contact A....y.co.uk and get them to bulk correct all the records? >> Stuart > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Folks, Further to Ralph's note, there was a special edition of Peter Calver's Lost Cousins Newsletter about this at - https://www.lostcousins.com/newsletters2/jun17news.htm This may add to the information from Ralph, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 12/06/2017 21:19, Ralph Taylor wrote: > Martin wrote: "Does that include the more recent Ancestry DNA test? I had > one done years but the more recent one does seem to work better on > GEDMatch."

Hi Stuart You can phone or email, or make contact via facebook, let them know what you have found It would not surprise me if you were not the first to point it out I would not hold your breath whilst awaiting the correction though, they are very slow at this sort of correction If you add a correction to one record, perhaps others may see it if searching for that place name Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12-Jun-17 5:36 PM, Stuart J Phethean wrote: > Shame, but I was hoping to find a lot of on-line trees on the same web site featuring Mrs Hultonia Media, but failed dismally :-) > > As an aside, how do I contact A....y.co.uk and get them to bulk correct all the records? > > Stuart

Hi, Stuart, With regard to Middle Hulton, have a look at http://www.mancuniensis.info/index.htm This is a site about the Salford Hundred and has some very clear maps that I find helpful. As for the correction query - I have no knowledge, Regards Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 12/06/2017 17:36, Stuart J Phethean wrote: > Shame, but I was hoping to find a lot of on-line trees on the same web site featuring Mrs Hultonia Media, but failed dismally :-) >

Shame, but I was hoping to find a lot of on-line trees on the same web site featuring Mrs Hultonia Media, but failed dismally :-) As an aside, how do I contact A....y.co.uk and get them to bulk correct all the records? Stuart Sent from my iPad > On 12 Jun 2017, at 17:04, jim lancaster <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Stuart, > > You wrote - > > > Hmmm - Latin records " Jon filius John Eckersley de Hultonia media.... " . How about Middle Hulton? > > This seems a good fit to me for the place of abode, > > Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) > >> On 12/06/2017 16:54, Stuart J Phethean wrote: >> Just found about 40 baptism records records for the Parish of Dean in the 1700s on a well known genealogy web site where the mother is recorded as Hultonia Media!!! Hmmm - Latin records " Jon filius John Eckersley de Hultonia media.... " . How about Middle Hulton? >> Stuart

Hi Stuart On a similar note, there is a mathematical term called the median, meaning the middle item of an ordered list. Presumably also from the Latin for middle rather than our alternative modern day meaning. Elaine On 12 June 2017 at 16:54, Stuart J Phethean <[email protected]> wrote: > Just found about 40 baptism records records for the Parish of Dean in the > 1700s on a well known genealogy web site where the mother is recorded as > Hultonia Media!!! Hmmm - Latin records " Jon filius John Eckersley de > Hultonia media.... " . How about Middle Hulton? > > Stuart > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ > lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just found about 40 baptism records records for the Parish of Dean in the 1700s on a well known genealogy web site where the mother is recorded as Hultonia Media!!! Hmmm - Latin records " Jon filius John Eckersley de Hultonia media.... " . How about Middle Hulton? Stuart

Martin wrote: "Does that include the more recent Ancestry DNA test? I had one done years but the more recent one does seem to work better on GEDMatch." There is a difference in what kind of DNA is being tested and matched. Thes tests are neither interchangeable or inclusive for the other. Background: * Human nuclear DNA consists of 23 pairs of chromosomes. * One of these 23 pairs is an XY (male) or XX (female); one X is inherited from the mother; theo other X or Y from tha father. * The other 22 pairs are called "autosomes", inherited about equally from each parent. The child gets a copy of half a pair from each parent; the two halves pair up again in the child and frequently recombine with each other; e.g., the Chr8 from Dad & the Chr8 from Mom swap genetic informaiton. The Ancestry DNA (or 23andME) test is of autosomal test. It finds more cousins because it tracks all your indirect ancestry. (Think of it as a shotgun; it has a very wide spread but a short range.) Since everyone has twice as many grandparents as parents and twice again as many great-grandparents, there are many more possibilities of matching. However, due to dilution and recombination, the genetic signal fades after just a few generations. The yDNA test (Family Tree DNA), OOTH, tracks only direct paternal ancestry. (Think of it as a rifle with a long range but very little spread.) Everyone has just one father, who had only one father and he had only one father. But, ssince the Y chromosome isn't diluted or recombined, the genetic signal lasts much longer. A frequent problem with autosomal DNA matches is identifying the relationship; it could lie anywhere in one's family tree. However, a yDNA match is pinpointed to the direct paternal lineage. Because yDNA inheritance parallels the social custom of surname inheritance, it is the major focus of surname DNA projects. Both are related to direct paternity. -rt_/)

Hello all, Here are the latest additions to the Lancs OPC databases. The search engine hasn't been updated yet to include them in returns, so will have to be searched manually. 9 Jun 2017 MIs from the Church of St Mary in the Parish of Great Sankey, Penketh and Sankey Graves from the Church of St James, Ashworth, Rochdale There is also a request from the OPC themselves for volunteers: - We are looking for a few more volunteers to help with register photography, mainly at Preston and Manchester. (See details of what this involves via the link on their website) http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html Regards, Sally