Hi again Marg, Three possible deaths for a Margaret HOLLAND in 1883, 2 of them very strong contenders. Christine -----Original Message----- From: marg Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] Edward Thomas HOLLAND (Houlihan) b 1826 Hi all This family seemed to move between Birkenhead and Liverpool. Edward Thomas Holland b abt 1856 Birkenhead, his wife Mary Jane Heywood was born in Lancaster abt 1858 The family name obviously originated from "Houlihan" as there are entries with that spelling. (hoolan Houlan, and others) The family seems to continue to use the Irish variations or HOLLAND, so very hard to follow them. their son Thomas HOLLAND b 1884, went to Australia and died at Fromelles in WW1 and his name has Houlan in brackets in his army file . I have all Tom's Aussie records. I am trying to track down what happened to the siblings of Thomas (to help identify the soldier by eventually finding some relatives with DNA matches) Tom's siblings. George James b 1880. Margaret 1882 Edward 1886 John 1894 I think George James married Millicent Callister and had a family. But would be very interested in finding out what happened to the other three. Most grateful for your help/advice. Kind regards Marg O'Leary

Hi Marg, There is a death for an Edward HOLLAND, Q4 1888, Birkenhead, b c 1886. Christine -----Original Message----- From: marg Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] Edward Thomas HOLLAND (Houlihan) b 1826 Hi all This family seemed to move between Birkenhead and Liverpool. Edward Thomas Holland b abt 1856 Birkenhead, his wife Mary Jane Heywood was born in Lancaster abt 1858 The family name obviously originated from "Houlihan" as there are entries with that spelling. (hoolan Houlan, and others) The family seems to continue to use the Irish variations or HOLLAND, so very hard to follow them. their son Thomas HOLLAND b 1884, went to Australia and died at Fromelles in WW1 and his name has Houlan in brackets in his army file . I have all Tom's Aussie records. I am trying to track down what happened to the siblings of Thomas (to help identify the soldier by eventually finding some relatives with DNA matches) Tom's siblings. George James b 1880. Margaret 1882 Edward 1886 John 1894 I think George James married Millicent Callister and had a family. But would be very interested in finding out what happened to the other three. Most grateful for your help/advice. Kind regards Marg O'Leary

Hi, Shirley, You seek information about a marriage - >Found a marriage which fits >James PEERS mar Betty GUYE 8/1803 Looking at the Lancashire On-Line Parish Clerk site (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Rossendale/Haslingden/stjames/index.html ) there is a matching entry - Marriage: 29 Aug 1803 St James, Haslingden, Lancs. James Peers - this Chapelry Betty Gaye - (X), this Chapelry     Witness: Henry Rothwell; Thos. Wilding     Married by Banns by: Jas. Barnes, Curate     Register: Marriages 1794 - 1812, Page 102, Entry 322     Source: Original Parish Register at Lancashire Archives LanOPC has transcribed the details from the original register and the entry may have been in a difficult hand as the bride's surname is rendered as GAYE. LanOPC, in my experience, provides all the information that is in the register. You state - > The church record how ever has James PEERS mar Betty GUYE but James has signed as James PEARS, Betty with an X. at Goodshaw Chapel, Haslingden What is the source of this information? St Mary, Goodshaw is an ancient chapel of ease to the Parish Church at Whalley. LanOPC has some marriage transcripts for this church, but these are only from 1838. It is possible that earlier marriage registers have been lost but this date is probably because between 1754 and 1837, to be legally recognised marriages had to take place in a licensed church of the Established Religion (i.e. the Church of England). The only exceptions were for Quakers and Jews. This means that all other marriages 'should' have been solemnised in the CoE Church. Some people of other faiths would have a marriage service in the CoE church for the legal benefits and then one in their own chapel for their religious reasons. If you look at the Genuki Church Database (http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/churches ) and search for Goodshaw, you will get a list of churches and a link to details of each. As you state, there are two Baptist chapels, both of the Particular Baptist persuasion, Rehoboth Particular Baptist Chapel, Goodshaw Fold, which was founded in 1823 and Goodshaw Lane Particular Baptist Chapel which is noted as being founded before 1848. The Victoria County History of Lancashire (http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol6/pp437-441#h3-0004 ) suggests that Goodshaw Lane Chapel was established before 1700. Some original registers for both of these chapels are held in “Archives +” (Manchester Central Library – see catalogue http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/archives-and-record-office/our-collections/church-registers-guide.aspx) but none before 1837. Hope this helps. Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 13/11/2017 19:53, Shirley Brown wrote: > I am looking for my PIERCE family in Haslingden . > Found a marriage which fits > James PEERS mar Betty GUYE 8/1803 >

Shirley - are you enquiring about marriages or baptisms? All marriages for RC and Non-conformist people HAD to take place at a C of E Church (except for Quakers and Jews) until 1837 -- when they could occur at the Church of choice but a Registrar had to be present. If you are asking about Baptist baptisms -- these only occurred when a person was old enough to renounce their sins and prove that they accepted and believed in the Baptist beliefs. Hence this was usually from age 15 upwards, dependant upon that particular congregation's custom and practice. You can often find a baby being 'registered' at a Baptist church - although not baptised until much later. Regards June From: Shirley Brown <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, 13 November 2017, 20:27 Subject: [LAN] Surname PIERCE/PEERS/PEARS I am looking for my PIERCE family in Haslingden . Found a marriage which fits James PEERS mar Betty GUYE  8/1803 The church record how ever has James PEERS mar Betty GUYE but James has signed as James PEARS  , Betty with an  X . at Goodshaw Chapel , Haslingden . The OPC records for Goodshaw have 3 churches listed , the C of E which shows records the Baptist New Church and the Baptist Old Church have no records . All the children b Haslingden and Chorley were baptised C of E possibly the wife's choice of church . Are there any records for this Baptist Church ?? I am aware that often marriages were performed at the nearest church or even hall !!! . I have spent hrs checking OPC records in Lancs . with no luck . Pleased to hear from anyone who knows anything about this chapel  . The fact James could write his name I feel is another step forward in my search . I have found over 30 spellings for this surname . Shirley  in NZ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information.  http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator  at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Jim.. that makes sense so my reply to Bob just now is answered too. Funny how you think you’ve read everything and then someone points out a lot of stuff you’ve (I’ve)missed! I checked FS for Rufford and Croston and have seen the LOPC entries for Rufford but didn’t see any further notes. I will read more carefully. And I forgot about British history online and Victoria County history.. Thanks again.. they had to be the same person being baptised, (though you do sometimes find same name parents and offspring) .. but I do like clarity. Satisfying. Jane Lucas > On 13 Nov 2017, at 10:04, jim lancaster <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, June, > > You are having problems with a baptism in 1727, and you wrote - > > > Many of the Croston entries have parents of Rufford. But Rufford isn’t in Croston Parish. Are these different Baptisms or St. Mary’s Rufford Baptisms included in the BTs for Croston Parish for some reason? > > Following the earlier replies, Yes, today, Rufford is not part of Croston Parish but in fact, Rufford was a Township in the Parish of Croston until 1793 when the two were separated by an Act of Parliament. This is detailed in the Victoria County History of Lancashire (see http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol6/pp119-128 ) and you will find a map of the ancient Parish of Croston at http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol6/pp81-91 . This map is interesting, too, as it shows that Chorley was originally a detached portion of the Parish of Croston. > > When Rufford was part of the Parish of Croston, there was a chapel from an early date though the present church is a modern building. The Lancashire On-Line Parish Clerk project (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Rufford/index.html ) has transcripts of its baptism registers from 1669 which have been made from the LDS Film 1526059 . It is possible that the Bishops' Transcripts were of the combined baptisms in the whole parish. Lan-OPC has some notes about Rufford. > > Hope this helps, > > Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) > >> On 13/11/2017 09:00, Jane Lucas wrote: >> I wonder if someone can help explain an apparent contradiction in baptism entries. > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Bob.. .. so that makes sense as far as filming the records go... but what about the BTs for Croston Parish.. the image on Ancestry is an original Register and says ‘Croston Parish’? Do you think whoever did the BTs in the 1700s was working on the same principle as family search Jane Lucas > On 13 Nov 2017, at 09:59, familyhistory <[email protected]> wrote: > > If you follow up the FHL film numbers you will find that the reference to Croston (FHL 1656816 ) points to a film that refers to : > > Church of England. Parish Church of Croston (Lancashire); > > Church of England. Parish Church of Rufford (Lancashire); > > Church of England. Parish Church of Hesketh with Becconsall (Lancashire) > > It also includes BTs for Cockerham which explains why one of the records on Family Search that shows his christening gives the place as Croston, Ellel Lancashire (Ellel is included in the Cockerham filming). > > It's really not a contradiction in the baptism entries but to do with the way the films include multiple small churches which have been lumped together for convenience of filling a film. Croston and Cockerham are not even geographically close, which is why "Croston, Ellel" really doesn't make sense. > > BobC > > >> On 13/11/2017 09:00, Jane Lucas wrote: >> I wonder if someone can help explain an apparent contradiction in baptism entries. From FamilySearch I have a Robert (also (Rob) Hesketh baptised at St. Mary’s Rufford 29 Oct 1727 s/o Barnabas Hesketh and his wife Jane. FS cite ‘Christening, St Mary’s Church, Rufford Volume Lancashire Record Office. >> Rufford is where I expected to find Robert Hesketh, but .... >> >> On Ancestry, there are two records. >> (1)England, Select Births and Christenings 1738-1975 with an FHL Film number, so the same source. There is no image either for this or the above entries. >> >> (2) Lancashire England BMDs, Croston Parish, Bishop’s Transcript’s Transcript original image, ‘Robt. Son of Barnabas Hesketh (? occupation but can’t read it) of Rufford and Jane his Wife’. >> >> Many of the Croston entries have parents of Rufford. But Rufford isn’t in Croston Parish. Are these different Baptisms or St. Mary’s Rufford Baptisms included in the BTs for Croston Parish for some reason? >> >> Thanks >> Jane >> >> >> >> >> >> >> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >> GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ >> >> >> Contact the list administrator at [email protected] >> >> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Bob C > > http://www.bccy.org.uk > and > http://extra.bccy.org.uk

Hi, June, You are having problems with a baptism in 1727, and you wrote - > Many of the Croston entries have parents of Rufford. But Rufford isn’t in Croston Parish. Are these different Baptisms or St. Mary’s Rufford Baptisms included in the BTs for Croston Parish for some reason? Following the earlier replies, Yes, today, Rufford is not part of Croston Parish but in fact, Rufford was a Township in the Parish of Croston until 1793 when the two were separated by an Act of Parliament. This is detailed in the Victoria County History of Lancashire (see http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol6/pp119-128 ) and you will find a map of the ancient Parish of Croston at http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol6/pp81-91 . This map is interesting, too, as it shows that Chorley was originally a detached portion of the Parish of Croston. When Rufford was part of the Parish of Croston, there was a chapel from an early date though the present church is a modern building. The Lancashire On-Line Parish Clerk project (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Rufford/index.html ) has transcripts of its baptism registers from 1669 which have been made from the LDS Film 1526059 . It is possible that the Bishops' Transcripts were of the combined baptisms in the whole parish. Lan-OPC has some notes about Rufford. Hope this helps, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 13/11/2017 09:00, Jane Lucas wrote: > I wonder if someone can help explain an apparent contradiction in baptism entries.

If you follow up the FHL film numbers you will find that the reference to Croston (FHL 1656816 <https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bfilm_number%3A1656816> ) points to a film that refers to : Church of England. Parish Church of Croston (Lancashire); Church of England. Parish Church of Rufford (Lancashire); Church of England. Parish Church of Hesketh with Becconsall (Lancashire) It also includes BTs for Cockerham which explains why one of the records on Family Search that shows his christening gives the place as Croston, Ellel Lancashire (Ellel is included in the Cockerham filming). It's really not a contradiction in the baptism entries but to do with the way the films include multiple small churches which have been lumped together for convenience of filling a film.   Croston and Cockerham are not even geographically close, which is why "Croston, Ellel" really doesn't make sense. BobC On 13/11/2017 09:00, Jane Lucas wrote: > I wonder if someone can help explain an apparent contradiction in baptism entries. From FamilySearch I have a Robert (also (Rob) Hesketh baptised at St. Mary’s Rufford 29 Oct 1727 s/o Barnabas Hesketh and his wife Jane. FS cite ‘Christening, St Mary’s Church, Rufford Volume Lancashire Record Office. > Rufford is where I expected to find Robert Hesketh, but .... > > On Ancestry, there are two records. > (1)England, Select Births and Christenings 1738-1975 with an FHL Film number, so the same source. There is no image either for this or the above entries. > > (2) Lancashire England BMDs, Croston Parish, Bishop’s Transcript’s Transcript original image, ‘Robt. Son of Barnabas Hesketh (? occupation but can’t read it) of Rufford and Jane his Wife’. > > Many of the Croston entries have parents of Rufford. But Rufford isn’t in Croston Parish. Are these different Baptisms or St. Mary’s Rufford Baptisms included in the BTs for Croston Parish for some reason? > > Thanks > Jane > > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > > Contact the list administrator at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk

Jane, This is off the 'top of my head' at the moment --- but Croston was the main Parish for that area at one time -- covering Rufford, Tarleton and other villages. I might be wrong but I thought I had seen separate sections in old Croston Parish Registers for events which had occurred at Rufford. I can't put my hands on the information which causes me to think that -- but I'll hunt round to see if I can confirm it for you. I also have ancestors from that area, so have picked up on that somewhere or another! Regards June From: Jane Lucas <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, 13 November 2017, 9:02 Subject: [LAN] Baptism entry Rufford and Croston I wonder if someone can help explain an apparent contradiction in baptism entries. From FamilySearch I have a Robert (also (Rob) Hesketh baptised at St. Mary’s Rufford 29 Oct 1727 s/o Barnabas Hesketh and his wife Jane. FS cite ‘Christening, St Mary’s Church, Rufford Volume Lancashire Record Office. Rufford is where I expected to find Robert Hesketh, but .... On Ancestry, there are two records. (1)England, Select Births and Christenings 1738-1975 with an FHL Film number, so the same source. There is no image either for this or the above entries. (2) Lancashire England BMDs, Croston Parish, Bishop’s Transcript’s Transcript original image, ‘Robt. Son of Barnabas Hesketh (? occupation but can’t read it) of Rufford  and Jane his Wife’. Many of the Croston entries have parents of Rufford. But Rufford isn’t in Croston Parish. Are these different Baptisms or St. Mary’s Rufford Baptisms included in the BTs for Croston Parish for some reason? Thanks Jane :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information.  http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator  at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if someone can help explain an apparent contradiction in baptism entries. From FamilySearch I have a Robert (also (Rob) Hesketh baptised at St. Mary’s Rufford 29 Oct 1727 s/o Barnabas Hesketh and his wife Jane. FS cite ‘Christening, St Mary’s Church, Rufford Volume Lancashire Record Office. Rufford is where I expected to find Robert Hesketh, but .... On Ancestry, there are two records. (1)England, Select Births and Christenings 1738-1975 with an FHL Film number, so the same source. There is no image either for this or the above entries. (2) Lancashire England BMDs, Croston Parish, Bishop’s Transcript’s Transcript original image, ‘Robt. Son of Barnabas Hesketh (? occupation but can’t read it) of Rufford and Jane his Wife’. Many of the Croston entries have parents of Rufford. But Rufford isn’t in Croston Parish. Are these different Baptisms or St. Mary’s Rufford Baptisms included in the BTs for Croston Parish for some reason? Thanks Jane

John Thank you for looking I am conferred that Ida Butler married a William Tattersall. Ida had a younger sister Gladys Ann Butler she died in 1959 in Blackpool she died a spinster and left her money to a Ida Tattersall married women. I was hoping some one have the marriage cert; to tell me what where the names of the witness Jeff ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Barbara Is there a cheaper way of getting a cert; than paying out 9;25 uk money Jeff

Hi Looking to join William Tattersall to Ida Butler I believe they married 1934 in Heywood Regards Jeff

Hello everyone For your reading pleasure, here are the subjects of posts made on the Lancashire message board in October. Perhaps a thread or two will be of interest. HORSFIELD Family in Chorlton Union School/Workhouse Looking for decendants of John Booth (1846-1918) & Peggy Lister (1845-1925) James Fletcher (c. 1850s) Clitheroe, Lancashire Benjamin Gladwin b. 1885 and Family Widnes Catholic Cemeteries James McCaffrey, ireland, liverpool help with 1810ish marriage of Charles Knott and Elizabeth? Birth or Death Records for children of Margaret & John Lewis Help please in finding death entry in Liverpool 1900's. Wellington Street, Pendleton? Electoral roll for 1946 Sarah Jones Singleton of Liverpool, England (1870-1905) Curry, Brooks Illegitamate Birth ? Lawless family of Warrington Peter Boardman Jones Sewing Machines Walter Daker 1840 Chorley Branch, Lancashire Family History and Heraldry Society Westby Walker spouse of james daswon, sarah hopkins or atkins discrepancy Marriage look Up in Bury, Lancs in 1851 John Ralph Birth William Casey, May 4, 1884, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Query FAIRLEE-RODGERSON/ROGERSON parents of Arnold, Maron & Beatrice McCANN Lookup - Oldham, Lancashire, Help solving mystery 1830's marriage for Peter Swainson MORGAN help with marriage of John Massey to Elizabeth ca. 1823-25 Policing in Lancashire, deaths 1840 onwards MAWDSLEY in Formby? Hayhurst Family from Parkhead,Whalley Lancashire 1680 - 1800 The messages can be viewed (and replies can be posted) at http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/mb.ashx or http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/mb.ashx Like the mailing lists, the message boards are completely free. You do need to register before using the message boards, but registration only requires a name and a working email address. Many thanks to Sally for keeping us up to date on progress of the Lancashire OPC. Kind regards, Lynne

Hi Jeff -- does the 1939 Register help? There is a couple on there in Heywood with the correct names -- but I'm not sure if we can give details on this Forum. I will just say that if this is the correct couple Ida was about 4 or 5 years older than William. June From: Jeff Butler <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 12 November 2017, 2:27 Subject: [LAN] Tattersall married Butler Hi Looking to join William Tattersall to Ida Butler I believe they married 1934 in Heywood Regards Jeff :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources:  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator  at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeff Not sure what you are hoping that the witnesses will prove. I have in excess of 4,500 marriage certificates since 1837 and by the time that you get to the 1930's many are no longer signed by family members. The Reference from LancashireBMD is CE33/3/228 so the marriage is number 228 in that book. You could ask the Manchester Archives what it would cost for a copy. The chances of finding someone on this list with the marriage is very slim. Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Butler Sent: 12 November 2017 08:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Tattersall married Butler John Thank you for looking I am conferred that Ida Butler married a William Tattersall. Ida had a younger sister Gladys Ann Butler she died in 1959 in Blackpool she died a spinster and left her money to a Ida Tattersall married women. I was hoping some one have the marriage cert; to tell me what where the names of the witness Jeff ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeff I went and checked the newspaper archive after replying and whilst there are marriages of an Ida BUTLER in 1934 it is in the wrong county. Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Hanson Sent: 12 November 2017 06:48 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Tattersall married Butler Jeff The answer to your question is no. Hopwood registers will be with the Manchester Archives and whilst their records are on Ancestry they stop in 1930 for marriages Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Butler Sent: 12 November 2017 05:20 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Tattersall married Butler Thank you Barbara Is there a cheaper way of getting a cert; than paying out 9;25 uk money Jeff :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeff The answer to your question is no. Hopwood registers will be with the Manchester Archives and whilst their records are on Ancestry they stop in 1930 for marriages Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: LANCSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Butler Sent: 12 November 2017 05:20 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Tattersall married Butler Thank you Barbara Is there a cheaper way of getting a cert; than paying out 9;25 uk money Jeff :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to the Lancashire BMD site, William Tattersall and Ida Butler were married at St John's Hopwood in 1934. Regards Barbara (NZ) On Sunday, 12 November 2017 3:27 PM, Jeff Butler <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Looking to join William Tattersall to Ida Butler I believe they married 1934 in Heywood Regards Jeff :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Really Useful Sources:  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lancsopc/RUS/guide.htm Contact the list administrator  at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, Here are the latest records to be added to the OPC databases. The search engine hasn't yet been updated to include them in any returns so they will need to be searched manually for the time being. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 10 Nov 2017 (The OPC are looking for a few more volunteers to help with register photography, mainly at Preston and Manchester. See details of what this involves on their website). Baptisms 1851 to 1853 from the Parish Church of St Peter, Bolton Baptisms 1854 to 1862, Deaths 1855 to 1870, 1877 to 1879 and 1879 to 1977 from the Roman Catholic Church of St James the Less, Rawtenstall Deaths from 1879 to 1977 have been updated to include some entries found in a section of another book. Poor Coat Beneficiaries 1753 to 1810 and Burials 1827 to 1830 from the Church of St Michael and All Angels in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Burials 1848 to 1851 and 1853 to 1855 from St John in the Town of Preston Baptisms 1991 to 2003 from the Church of Emmanuel, Holcombe, in the Parish of Bury Burials 1785 to 1818 from the Moravian Church in the Parish of Droylsden Baptisms 1948 to 2003 from the Church of St Michael and All Angels in the Parish of Croston Also a few missing entries have been added to Baptisms 1728 to 1782. Burials 1905 to 1959 from the Church of St Wilfrid, in the Parish of Standish Baptisms 1875 to 1881 from the Church of St Elphin in the Parish of Warrington Regards, Sally