I haven't had it done yet but I am not interested in contacting cousins, I just want to know which countries I came from in the distant past. Peter

I agree with all that you said with the exception that I know I have solved, to a great degree, my greatest brick wall; that is the identity of my great grandfather. That being said, a thought that I failed to mention earlier was that in my upbringing it was common courtesy to respond to a non hostile request, even if it is just to say "I am not interested, do not bother me". It would take less than a minute or two. On Friday, May 18, 2018, 10:10:18 AM EDT, Linda <linsfam@myfairpoint.net> wrote: Though I enjoy the DNA for a variety of reasons, your experience isn't unusual.  Particularly as prices came down, it seems more and more do it just for the ancestry estimates and not for genealogy.  Most new matches don't have a tree listed which generally means they aren't that interested.  They probably have no idea of their tree and couldn't help even if they did respond.  I have over 1000 matches and have had only a few really useful connections with new information.  I would still say it was worth it to me and I'd do it again.  Expecting it to break down brickwalls is unlikely to get results though. Good luck. On Fri, 18 May 2018 13:45:35 +0000 (UTC), "T. Wood via LANCSGEN"  wrote: I finally jumped into the DNA testing and selected Ancestry with the idea that it could be used as a tool to help break down some long standing brick walls.  What have others been experiencing in this regard? Are my expectations too high? Is there something wrong with my approach? _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information.  http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator  at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Though I enjoy the DNA for a variety of reasons, your experience isn't unusual. Particularly as prices came down, it seems more and more do it just for the ancestry estimates and not for genealogy. Most new matches don't have a tree listed which generally means they aren't that interested. They probably have no idea of their tree and couldn't help even if they did respond. I have over 1000 matches and have had only a few really useful connections with new information. I would still say it was worth it to me and I'd do it again. Expecting it to break down brickwalls is unlikely to get results though. Good luck. On Fri, 18 May 2018 13:45:35 +0000 (UTC), "T. Wood via LANCSGEN" wrote: I finally jumped into the DNA testing and selected Ancestry with the idea that it could be used as a tool to help break down some long standing brick walls. What have others been experiencing in this regard? Are my expectations too high? Is there something wrong with my approach?

I finally jumped into the DNA testing and selected Ancestry with the idea that it could be used as a tool to help break down some long standing brick walls.  At this point, I have matches with 13 2nd and 3rd cousins and 78 4th to 6th cousins.  Some of the 2nd and 3rd cousins I already knew but a few of them I didn’t know at all or wasn’t sure about so I sent them a message through Ancestry.  Now, nearly two months out, I have not received a response from any of this group. I also sent a message to all 78 of the 4th to 6th cousin matches and to this point have received a response from 14 of them and some of those responses were only after sending a second message.  Without going into a long dissertation as to how it was determined, the most disappointing one of these was a match that reveals the father of my grandfather that I have been searching for, for over 30 years. I would love to be able to communicate with this person but still, after several attempts to make contact, I have heard nothing from her. From my experience so far, it appears as though the vast majority of those having DNA testing done have little or no interest in genealogy and making contact with distant relations.  This being the case, the value of using the results to assist in genealogical research is greatly reduced. What have others been experiencing in this regard? Are my expectations too high? Is there something wrong with my approach?  

Because of the responses (some off-list), maybe I should clarify my opinion on DNA testing. I am not only a supporter of it but administer two DNA projects and usually am encouraging people to test. (I'd, especially, like more Lancashire men test Y-DNA and particularly Taylors.) But, everyone's situations are different and people should pursue it with open eyes. DNA testing will NOT solve every genealogical problem. One must have a clear goal and should seek good advice about how testing would attain the goal. Now, my own testimonial; DNA testing did the following for my genealogy. 1. Cleared up a doubt that was not resolvable through documentation. These was doubt about my paternal great grandfather being a son of my purported 2nd-great-grandfather. (Y-DNA testing resolved it in the affirmative.) 2. Identified my specific patriline within a very common surname containing hundreds of patrilins. (Y-DNA helped confirm documentation and fill in blanks in the family history.) 3. Autosomal DNA matching found cousins who share my mother's mother's paternal grandfather. (This tends to confirm the cdocumentation.) 4. Mitochondrial DNA suggested my direct maternal lineage was Ulster Scots and probably settled in Augusta County, Virginia before branching out. Yet, others have had less success. As a project administrator, I hurt for them. -rt_/)

You can find useful information through the DNA. I have had two important finds, I was able to prove someone born in the early 1800s was illegitimate. We suspected it and now can be 99% sure. I also found another important illegitimate line from an ancestor which no one was aware. This was important information to the person in that illegitimate line. Also made contact with quite a number of people who are related in various parts of my tree. There are some parts of the tree where I am still hoping to find people through DNA. Martin Briscoe Fort William Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507) -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Brown [mailto:essanjay37@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 8:27 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] DNA testing . I have rejoined after a couple of years . There was a scheme being run then where by one could have a free DNA test , sponsered by I think Ancestry and these results were grouped . The idea I suppose to find where exactly !!! we might fit in , My grgrandfather David PIERCE had two sibblings who went to the States , mar and settled there . But our line is Lancashire , UK . I am stuck at 1803 . Anyone remember that ??? it was not a full marker test . Shirley

As others noted, DNA testing prices change, promotions come and go. I suppose the real questions are 1. How much will DNA testing (ad matching) help my genealogical research? and 2, Will the results be worth the money and time? It's important to recognize that the type of DNA test offered by Ancestry is autosomal. This type of test has a wide range but a narrow time scope. It can find cousins related to you through lots of great-=aunts and uncles. But they will be fairly recent. You say you're presently stuck at 1803. I'm guessing that's four or five generations back. It's getting near the limit of autosomal DNA for matching. You will also have the effort of interpreting the matches on your "match list". Ancestry will estimate the degree of cousinhood typically associated with the shared amount of DNA. You'll have to figure where they fit on your tree; that is, which of your great-great-grandparents are shared with your match. (Ancestry does offer some features to make it easier.) -rt_/) Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 07:26:34 +1200 From: Shirley Brown <essanjay37@gmail.com> Subject: [LAN] DNA testing . To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAO8tNkYKLRbLKoFnVT+0OAzoP4m_HFJv3Pd83CfZvhPRRUuBtA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have rejoined after a couple of years . There was a scheme being run then where by one could have a free DNA test , sponsered by I think Ancestry and these results were grouped . The idea I suppose to find where exactly !!! we might fit in , My grgrandfather David PIERCE had two sibblings who went to the States , mar and settled there . But our line is Lancashire , UK . I am stuck at 1803 . Anyone remember that ??? it was not a full marker test . Shirley

Free!!! Wow!!! They did have a $99 dollar cheapie over the mothers day weekend. Cheers marg -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Brown <essanjay37@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2018 5:27 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] DNA testing . I have rejoined after a couple of years . There was a scheme being run then where by one could have a free DNA test , sponsered by I think Ancestry and these results were grouped . The idea I suppose to find where exactly !!! we might fit in , My grgrandfather David PIERCE had two sibblings who went to the States , mar and settled there . But our line is Lancashire , UK . I am stuck at 1803 . Anyone remember that ??? it was not a full marker test . Shirley _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have rejoined after a couple of years . There was a scheme being run then where by one could have a free DNA test , sponsered by I think Ancestry and these results were grouped . The idea I suppose to find where exactly !!! we might fit in , My grgrandfather David PIERCE had two sibblings who went to the States , mar and settled there . But our line is Lancashire , UK . I am stuck at 1803 . Anyone remember that ??? it was not a full marker test . Shirley

Ancestry have free access to the 1939 Register today (13th May). Ancestry UK ‏Verified account @AncestryUK 6m6 minutes ago Last chance! Enjoy FREE ACCESS to the 1939 Register on Ancestry for today only! https://ancstry.me/2GalfIF #1939Register #Ancestry #FamilyHistory Martin Briscoe Fort William Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507)

As I lived next door in Blackburn through that period of time, it was very interesting to read all that information...I'm sure a lot of people in the area knew nothing about Burnley and the theatres.. thanks Martin. Regards Sheila )Fife

On 10/05/18 19:52, Mary Lou via LANCSGEN wrote: > Mike is right! Another good one that I've been using for years is Genuki. When I first started this lark, I probably referred to it 5 or 6 times a day! For someone who wasn't born in England it is a must see and completely free as well We used to be able to freely use a server to run Genuki but lost that and now we have to pay to use one. They gave us a good deal though, and even though we have no income we do find the funds to keep it all free. We've made major changes to the technology providing the service over the last three years. This has enabled us to make maintenance of the web pages a lot simpler. It is all done via the web pages themselves and is just like editing a Word document. The look and feel of the system is now enforced by the content management system, and the maintainers now just need to concentrate on providing the data.     phil > > > Mary Lou > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Morris <morrisind@rogers.com> > To: Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com>; lancsgen <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, May 10, 2018 9:44 am > Subject: [LAN] Re: National Registers > > > Which is another reason people should subscribe to the Rootsweb lists. I must have save a small fortune and had free family tree lessons all from responses from our kind list members. > Mike Morris Toronto Canada > > From: Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com; lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:37 AM > > No one has ever said that ours is an inexpensive hobby! Snip> > > > > > _______________________________________________:-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-:GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com:-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-:_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

You won't find place of birth on the 1939 Register but will find the complete birth date. I believe someone said the FMP listings have upgraded the redacted parts as people die. That would be the only difference. On Fri, 11 May 2018 15:10:09 +0100, Ann Speakman wrote: Re my post, John , I was sure I had read here that only FMP had the fullest details on the family registers. I am obviously mistaken. You have saved me a trip to the National Archives! Two years ago I hit an enormous brick wall as my ancestor born c1827 in UK gave three different places of birth: Lambeth, Plymouth and Liverpool and i look endlessly for ways to find out which is correct without any joy. So when i read about National Registers I thought I should investigate. I will go into Ancestry and see what i can find. Ann Speakman _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Re my post, John , I was sure I had read here that only FMP had the fullest details on the family registers. I am obviously mistaken. You have saved me a trip to the National Archives! Two years ago I hit an enormous brick wall as my ancestor born c1827 in UK gave three different places of birth: Lambeth, Plymouth and Liverpool and i look endlessly for ways to find out which is correct without any joy. So when i read about National Registers I thought I should investigate. I will go into Ancestry and see what i can find. Ann Speakman

Today's Topics: 1. Re: When Burnley was Britain's theatre capital (Lynne) Indeed! Although a theatre person myself, I knew nothing about this and really enjoyed the read. Tyrone Guthrie turning down Vivian Leigh! Gosh! Michael Green ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 19:54:38 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> Subject: [LAN] Re: When Burnley was Britain's theatre capital To: martin@mbriscoe.me.uk, lancsgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <433603456.13581.1525996478727@wamui-agami.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Very interesting! Thanks for sharing that, Martin. Lynne Martin Briscoe wrote: > >I came across this news item on the BBC website, that surprised me at first! > > > > > When Burnley was Britain's theatre capital > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44025128 > > >

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing that, Martin. Lynne Martin Briscoe wrote: > >I came across this news item on the BBC website, that surprised me at first! > > > > > When Burnley was Britain's theatre capital > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44025128 > > >

I came across this news item on the BBC website, that surprised me at first! When Burnley was Britain's theatre capital http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44025128 Martin Briscoe Fort William Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507)

Thanks for the notes on e-mailing Lynne.... good to be reminded. Sheila (Fife)

Images of the PRs of Samlesbury - CMB 1678-1900, Banns 1862-1900 - are available to view (and possibly download) free of charge on Familysearch.org. Search the catalogue for Samlesbury, select Online and click Church Records. Ruth Sent from my iPhone > On 10 May 2018, at 19:59, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > > The Lancashire Parish Register Society has published yet another fine volume of parish registers. This time it's those of the Parish of Samlesbury. I never would have expected that the parish registers of such a small village would take up an entire book, but they do. > > If you're not a member of the LPRS, please consider joining. See http://www.lprs.org.uk/ for membership information, special offers, and useful links. > > Lynne > > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

The Lancashire Parish Register Society has published yet another fine volume of parish registers. This time it's those of the Parish of Samlesbury. I never would have expected that the parish registers of such a small village would take up an entire book, but they do. If you're not a member of the LPRS, please consider joining. See http://www.lprs.org.uk/ for membership information, special offers, and useful links. Lynne