Thank you John for your expert search. I've got no excuses, except I went with the online search engines on Ancestry and failed. My current double vision one eye isn't helping, but no excuse. Operation 1st August. As this family is not mine, I'm just trying to help others, as I mentioned earlier, I am not spending dosh on it, just time and the wonderful expertise that these Lists have on board. I am on FMP, but did not obviously not press the right button. If I may also ask, I did look at The British Newspaper Archives this morning before the specialist's visit and although I could see numerous articles about Rev. James Power of Liverpool, Crossens etc., my endeavours to access the articles stated my password was wrong, so I tried three times, then emailed the Company with my dilemma. I have not as yet heard back, but if anyone is reading this and has a subscription to these Newspaper Archives within the time span of 1830-1852 and can see these articles indexed, which were contained on one page, any small link may tell me just where he was around 1827. From the little I could read, he was a well respected Minister in his community and died suddenly.........and of course, I may be chasing geese. But at present, he is of the right name and age and a Clerk. I shall mention the Will to those in N.S.W. and hope it leads to something positive. Again thank you John.......I hope everyone reads your suggestions..... Cheers, Robyn --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Robyn The marriage in 1841 is of course on Ancestry - is by Licence so have you tried to get hold of the licence? James and Sarah had four children - so I assume that you have killed the other three off? I found James's will in about 2 minutes of looking. Helps to know where to look. So let me explain the process in the hope that it will help others on how to look. As the death was in 1852 it is before the start of the National Probate service in 1858 so will be in one of the 300+ church courts but which one? Using the maps function of familysearch - http://maps.familysearch.org Entering Ormskirk and looking at Jurisdictions shows that the probate court is "Court of the Bishop of Chester (Episcopal Consistory)" Now a few years ago an online family history company called "British Origins" started a project called the National Wills Index with the aim of creating a master index for all wills prior to 1858. Sadly it no longer exist because it was bought out by Findmypast. Looking on FMP for a will for a James Power who died in 1852 shows one in Lancashire archives. The entry was for a James Power, Clerk, who died on 4 March 1852 in Crossens. The source is listed as " Lancashire Archives Probate Index Archdeaconry of Chester (supra wills 1800-1858)" - so should be listed on Lancat (http://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/calmview/) Archive reference - 1242B/26 You can order a copy of the will from Lancashire Archives Hope this helps Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Clarke [mailto:rsclarke@bigpond.com] Sent: 20 June 2018 00:49 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: Clerk in Holy Order Thanks Dear John and Ruth, Many thanks for your suggested websites etc. Unfortunately the Rev. James Power remains elusive. The only facts that I can find online relate to his Marriage in 1841 in Liverpool to Sarah Bromfield; their residence at the Parish residence in Crossens, North Meols in 1841-1851 just prior to his Death. No Will found. One child/niece survives to adulthood Anne Power and Wife, Sarah d. 1869 in Edgehill called a Fund Holder, leaving a Will. I also found an Index from Ireland - Landed Estates Court Rentals - Rev. James and Sarah Power Dublin City, Owner, dated 5 November 1852, p. 58., this being after his Death in Crossens. I don't know just what this refers to, but perhaps a residence owned by them in Dublin. None of this however, can confirm that this man is the Father of JOSEPH POWER born about 1827 possibly Lancashire. Please anyone keep a look out for Rev. James Power, Clerk born Ireland about 1805. With thanks, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Appleby [mailto:orange.wasps@live.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:35 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: Clerk in Holy Order Have you tried looking in an old copy of Crockfords? You may find one on archive.org. Ruth --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Beth, I found this shipping record but there is no proof that he is your man, there was also a John Hunter age 31 on board as well. Cheers, Anita. Name James Hunter Estimated Birth Year abt 1840 Age 23 Arrival Date 20 Dec 1863 Arrival Port Melbourne, Australia Departure Port Port Chalmers Ship Hero Nationality English > On 20 June 2018 at 13:00 aotueka@xtra.co.nz wrote: > > > Hello everyone. I am new to this list and hoping someone can help me solve a puzzle. > > My gr-gr-grandfather was a man called JAMES HUNTER. > > I believe he was born in Manchester around 1842. > > At some stage, he travelled to Australia (possibly with his brother and other family), and ended up living around Melbourne in Victoria. He was there in the early 1880's. Family anecdotes say he was a clever man - a storekeeper and a talented cook. > > I am desperate to know anything else about him and of his family back in England. > > I have no parents names, birth or death dates, and unfortunately he has a reasonably common name. > > However, he may have some connection to a younger man called Christopher HUNTER who was also in Melbourne circa 1895-1905 and may have been a nephew? > > If anyone has this man in their family tree or can assist me with any information, I would be most appreciative. > > > Thanks, Beth (in Auckland) > >
Hello everyone. I am new to this list and hoping someone can help me solve a puzzle. My gr-gr-grandfather was a man called JAMES HUNTER. I believe he was born in Manchester around 1842. At some stage, he travelled to Australia (possibly with his brother and other family), and ended up living around Melbourne in Victoria. He was there in the early 1880's. Family anecdotes say he was a clever man - a storekeeper and a talented cook. I am desperate to know anything else about him and of his family back in England. I have no parents names, birth or death dates, and unfortunately he has a reasonably common name. However, he may have some connection to a younger man called Christopher HUNTER who was also in Melbourne circa 1895-1905 and may have been a nephew? If anyone has this man in their family tree or can assist me with any information, I would be most appreciative. Thanks, Beth (in Auckland)
Dear John and Ruth, Many thanks for your suggested websites etc. Unfortunately the Rev. James Power remains elusive. The only facts that I can find online relate to his Marriage in 1841 in Liverpool to Sarah Bromfield; their residence at the Parish residence in Crossens, North Meols in 1841-1851 just prior to his Death. No Will found. One child/niece survives to adulthood Anne Power and Wife, Sarah d. 1869 in Edgehill called a Fund Holder, leaving a Will. I also found an Index from Ireland - Landed Estates Court Rentals - Rev. James and Sarah Power Dublin City, Owner, dated 5 November 1852, p. 58., this being after his Death in Crossens. I don't know just what this refers to, but perhaps a residence owned by them in Dublin. None of this however, can confirm that this man is the Father of JOSEPH POWER born about 1827 possibly Lancashire. Please anyone keep a look out for Rev. James Power, Clerk born Ireland about 1805. With thanks, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Appleby [mailto:orange.wasps@live.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:35 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: Clerk in Holy Order Have you tried looking in an old copy of Crockfords? You may find one on archive.org. Ruth --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Robin -- there is an Accrington Grammar Schools Old Boys Association. I know the chap who runs it (or did) -- it's possibly after the dates you are interested in -- but the website is here; http://www.agsob.org.uk/ It may be worth contacting them -- butI will forward your message to the chap I know, who I have no doubt will help if he can. Regards June From: "robin@scottishwool.com" <robin@scottishwool.com> To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 9:01 Subject: [LAN] Accrington Grammar School My father Frank King went to Accrington Grammar School and we are trying to find further information about his time there. He was born in 1909 so he would have started about 1920. Does anyone know where to find the Grammar School records? Regards Robin _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
This is from the Western Isles but I suspect it could be similar elsewhere. PROVIDING ACCESS TO SCHOOL ADMISSION REGISTERS AND LOG BOOKS 1 ADMISSION REGISTERS 1.1 Closure period Following a ruling in 2011 by the Information Commissioner under the Data Protection Act 2011, it is the recommendation of the Archivists in Scottish Local Authorities Working Group (ASLAWG) that School Admission Registers be closed for 100 years from the date the last pupil discharged from the school is recorded within an individual volume. http://www.tasglann.org.uk/tasglann-documents/school-records-guidance.pdf Martin Briscoe Fort William Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507) -----Original Message----- From: Robin McEwen-King [mailto:shetlandsheep@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of robin@scottishwool.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:01 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Accrington Grammar School My father Frank King went to Accrington Grammar School and we are trying to find further information about his time there. He was born in 1909 so he would have started about 1920. Does anyone know where to find the Grammar School records? Regards Robin
Robin With things like this the first port of call should be google. For "Accrington Grammer School" it lists quite a few but amongst them is one for the National Archives discovery database. This catalogue now includes the old a2a database with access to over 400 other catalogue http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F201192 This shows that the records are in Lancashire Archives Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Robin McEwen-King [mailto:shetlandsheep@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of robin@scottishwool.com Sent: 19 June 2018 09:01 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Accrington Grammar School My father Frank King went to Accrington Grammar School and we are trying to find further information about his time there. He was born in 1909 so he would have started about 1920. Does anyone know where to find the Grammar School records? Regards Robin _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
My father Frank King went to Accrington Grammar School and we are trying to find further information about his time there. He was born in 1909 so he would have started about 1920. Does anyone know where to find the Grammar School records? Regards Robin
Crockford's has a website https://www.crockford.org.uk/ I checked the SoG catalogue as I know it has an extensive run of Crockford's but the earliest is 1858 so maybe too late Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Appleby [mailto:orange.wasps@live.co.uk] Sent: 19 June 2018 08:35 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: Clerk in Holy Order Have you tried looking in an old copy of Crockfords? You may find one on archive.org. Ruth Sent from my iPad > On 19 Jun 2018, at 08:33, Robyn Clarke <rsclarke@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Thanks John, I had forgotten this database, but unfortunately I couldn't > find any mention of a Rev. James Power. > I remember when trying to find clerical evidence of my own Adam Tristram, > who was described as Clerk in Holy Order, born Ireland, by his children, > here was nothing ever found, except him being a teacher at various Irish > schools before arriving in Lancashire. > Regards, > Robyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hanson [mailto:john.hanson@one-name.org] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 4:44 PM > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LAN] Re: Clerk in Holy Order > > Robyn > Have you tried the Clergy Database http://theclergydatabase.org.uk/ > > Regards > John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names > Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk > New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robyn Clarke [mailto:rsclarke@bigpond.com] > Sent: 19 June 2018 07:00 > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LAN] Clerk in Holy Order > > Hi there, > Would someone be able to help me help others. > I am looking for a REV. JAMES POWER (b. 1805 Ireland - d. 1852 Crossen, > Lancs. He married in 1841 in Liverpool, Bachelor, full age. Father was > William Power, Music Seller, wife Sarah Bromfield) and REV. CHRISTOPHER > BARROW (b. 1776 Barbados d. Bath Somerset 1865.) - Both Anglican I believe. > However there is a possibility of Church of Ireland for James Power. > Trying to link these men at some time during their lives, perhaps wherever > James Power studied for the Ministry. > REASON - JOSEPH POWER born abt. 1826 either Hampshire or Lancashire, stated > parents REV. JAMES POWER and CATHERINE. Two of his children include these > Christian names. The family history via Joseph Power, comes to Australia in > 1856 on the Washington Irving as crew, he is aged 30 yrs. His ship entry > record is very hard to decipher whether Hampshire or Lancashire born. His > MI states born abt. 1827. > A Joseph Power aged 19 yrs., was living with Rev. Christopher Barrow in > Leamington Priors in 1841. No other Census clue that I can find. > I have been unable to find any other JAMES POWER, Clerk of the right age to > be Father of said JOSEPH POWER. The family has searched trying to find > JOSEPH's parents without proven success. > If anyone can find said REV. JAMES POWER of the age to have fathered said > JOSEPH POWER 1826/7, perhaps in a Clergy listing.............a real mystery, > > TIA > Cheers, > Robyn > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Have you tried looking in an old copy of Crockfords? You may find one on archive.org. Ruth Sent from my iPad > On 19 Jun 2018, at 08:33, Robyn Clarke <rsclarke@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Thanks John, I had forgotten this database, but unfortunately I couldn't > find any mention of a Rev. James Power. > I remember when trying to find clerical evidence of my own Adam Tristram, > who was described as Clerk in Holy Order, born Ireland, by his children, > here was nothing ever found, except him being a teacher at various Irish > schools before arriving in Lancashire. > Regards, > Robyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hanson [mailto:john.hanson@one-name.org] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 4:44 PM > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LAN] Re: Clerk in Holy Order > > Robyn > Have you tried the Clergy Database http://theclergydatabase.org.uk/ > > Regards > John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names > Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk > New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robyn Clarke [mailto:rsclarke@bigpond.com] > Sent: 19 June 2018 07:00 > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LAN] Clerk in Holy Order > > Hi there, > Would someone be able to help me help others. > I am looking for a REV. JAMES POWER (b. 1805 Ireland - d. 1852 Crossen, > Lancs. He married in 1841 in Liverpool, Bachelor, full age. Father was > William Power, Music Seller, wife Sarah Bromfield) and REV. CHRISTOPHER > BARROW (b. 1776 Barbados d. Bath Somerset 1865.) - Both Anglican I believe. > However there is a possibility of Church of Ireland for James Power. > Trying to link these men at some time during their lives, perhaps wherever > James Power studied for the Ministry. > REASON - JOSEPH POWER born abt. 1826 either Hampshire or Lancashire, stated > parents REV. JAMES POWER and CATHERINE. Two of his children include these > Christian names. The family history via Joseph Power, comes to Australia in > 1856 on the Washington Irving as crew, he is aged 30 yrs. His ship entry > record is very hard to decipher whether Hampshire or Lancashire born. His > MI states born abt. 1827. > A Joseph Power aged 19 yrs., was living with Rev. Christopher Barrow in > Leamington Priors in 1841. No other Census clue that I can find. > I have been unable to find any other JAMES POWER, Clerk of the right age to > be Father of said JOSEPH POWER. The family has searched trying to find > JOSEPH's parents without proven success. > If anyone can find said REV. JAMES POWER of the age to have fathered said > JOSEPH POWER 1826/7, perhaps in a Clergy listing.............a real mystery, > > TIA > Cheers, > Robyn > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Thanks John, I had forgotten this database, but unfortunately I couldn't find any mention of a Rev. James Power. I remember when trying to find clerical evidence of my own Adam Tristram, who was described as Clerk in Holy Order, born Ireland, by his children, here was nothing ever found, except him being a teacher at various Irish schools before arriving in Lancashire. Regards, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: John Hanson [mailto:john.hanson@one-name.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 4:44 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: Clerk in Holy Order Robyn Have you tried the Clergy Database http://theclergydatabase.org.uk/ Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Clarke [mailto:rsclarke@bigpond.com] Sent: 19 June 2018 07:00 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Clerk in Holy Order Hi there, Would someone be able to help me help others. I am looking for a REV. JAMES POWER (b. 1805 Ireland - d. 1852 Crossen, Lancs. He married in 1841 in Liverpool, Bachelor, full age. Father was William Power, Music Seller, wife Sarah Bromfield) and REV. CHRISTOPHER BARROW (b. 1776 Barbados d. Bath Somerset 1865.) - Both Anglican I believe. However there is a possibility of Church of Ireland for James Power. Trying to link these men at some time during their lives, perhaps wherever James Power studied for the Ministry. REASON - JOSEPH POWER born abt. 1826 either Hampshire or Lancashire, stated parents REV. JAMES POWER and CATHERINE. Two of his children include these Christian names. The family history via Joseph Power, comes to Australia in 1856 on the Washington Irving as crew, he is aged 30 yrs. His ship entry record is very hard to decipher whether Hampshire or Lancashire born. His MI states born abt. 1827. A Joseph Power aged 19 yrs., was living with Rev. Christopher Barrow in Leamington Priors in 1841. No other Census clue that I can find. I have been unable to find any other JAMES POWER, Clerk of the right age to be Father of said JOSEPH POWER. The family has searched trying to find JOSEPH's parents without proven success. If anyone can find said REV. JAMES POWER of the age to have fathered said JOSEPH POWER 1826/7, perhaps in a Clergy listing.............a real mystery, TIA Cheers, Robyn --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Robyn Have you tried the Clergy Database http://theclergydatabase.org.uk/ Regards John Hanson - researching the Halstead/Holstead/Alstead names Researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Clarke [mailto:rsclarke@bigpond.com] Sent: 19 June 2018 07:00 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Clerk in Holy Order Hi there, Would someone be able to help me help others. I am looking for a REV. JAMES POWER (b. 1805 Ireland - d. 1852 Crossen, Lancs. He married in 1841 in Liverpool, Bachelor, full age. Father was William Power, Music Seller, wife Sarah Bromfield) and REV. CHRISTOPHER BARROW (b. 1776 Barbados d. Bath Somerset 1865.) - Both Anglican I believe. However there is a possibility of Church of Ireland for James Power. Trying to link these men at some time during their lives, perhaps wherever James Power studied for the Ministry. REASON - JOSEPH POWER born abt. 1826 either Hampshire or Lancashire, stated parents REV. JAMES POWER and CATHERINE. Two of his children include these Christian names. The family history via Joseph Power, comes to Australia in 1856 on the Washington Irving as crew, he is aged 30 yrs. His ship entry record is very hard to decipher whether Hampshire or Lancashire born. His MI states born abt. 1827. A Joseph Power aged 19 yrs., was living with Rev. Christopher Barrow in Leamington Priors in 1841. No other Census clue that I can find. I have been unable to find any other JAMES POWER, Clerk of the right age to be Father of said JOSEPH POWER. The family has searched trying to find JOSEPH's parents without proven success. If anyone can find said REV. JAMES POWER of the age to have fathered said JOSEPH POWER 1826/7, perhaps in a Clergy listing.............a real mystery, TIA Cheers, Robyn --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi there, Would someone be able to help me help others. I am looking for a REV. JAMES POWER (b. 1805 Ireland - d. 1852 Crossen, Lancs. He married in 1841 in Liverpool, Bachelor, full age. Father was William Power, Music Seller, wife Sarah Bromfield) and REV. CHRISTOPHER BARROW (b. 1776 Barbados d. Bath Somerset 1865.) - Both Anglican I believe. However there is a possibility of Church of Ireland for James Power. Trying to link these men at some time during their lives, perhaps wherever James Power studied for the Ministry. REASON - JOSEPH POWER born abt. 1826 either Hampshire or Lancashire, stated parents REV. JAMES POWER and CATHERINE. Two of his children include these Christian names. The family history via Joseph Power, comes to Australia in 1856 on the Washington Irving as crew, he is aged 30 yrs. His ship entry record is very hard to decipher whether Hampshire or Lancashire born. His MI states born abt. 1827. A Joseph Power aged 19 yrs., was living with Rev. Christopher Barrow in Leamington Priors in 1841. No other Census clue that I can find. I have been unable to find any other JAMES POWER, Clerk of the right age to be Father of said JOSEPH POWER. The family has searched trying to find JOSEPH's parents without proven success. If anyone can find said REV. JAMES POWER of the age to have fathered said JOSEPH POWER 1826/7, perhaps in a Clergy listing.............a real mystery, TIA Cheers, Robyn --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Hi, Further to Mike's suggestion, I found the following LUNT entries in “Returns of Papists, 1767, Diocese of Chester” trans. E.S. Worrall, Catholic Record Society (Occasional Pub No. 1) (1980). p. 6 Lidiate August 5th, 1767. A List of the Papists' names within the Township of Lidiate and Parish of Halswall Males Aged years Occupation Residence years John Lunt 14 Minor 14 Females Ann Lunt 34 Spinster 14 Margaret Lunt 12 Spinster 12 Ann Lunt 10 Spinster 10 Ailie Lunt 6 Spinster 6 Jane Lunt 2 Minor 2 p.42 Sefton A List of papists or reputed Papists in ye different Townships & Hamlets of ye Parish of Sefton Township of Ince Blundell Philip Lunt 50 Husbn 21 Margt his wife 30 10 p.46 Formby A correct and complete List of the Papists or reputed Papists within the Chapelry of Formby in the Parish of Walton. Augt. 8th 1767 Edwd Lunt 85 Yeaman 85 Hope this helps, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 18/06/2018 18:55, Mike Morris wrote: > > You might find them in the Papist 1767 records.
You might find them in the Papist 1767 records. These records are like an early form of census. They give family details such as occupation, length of time they have lived (residence) in the place the return was recorded in and the ages of the occupants. Baptism: 16 Jul 1740 St Andrew, Maghull, Lancashire, England Jon. Lunt - Son of Jon. Lunt, (a papist) Born: 12 Jul 1740 Abode: Maghull Notes: [Out of order by date] Register: Baptisms 1729 - 1776, Page 65, Entry 23 Source: LDS Film 1849659 Regards, Mike Morris Toronto Canada From: gene ology <geneology14@gmail.com> To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 11:11 AM 1770. Easter Session Has this family commited a crime the family is John Lunt wife Elizabeth <snip>
Do You have their Marriage, if not I have the original parish Record Mike Lee Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: gene ology Sent: June 18, 2018 11:10 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Court Record cannot make it out 1770. Easter Session Has this family commited a crime the family is John Lunt wife Elizabeth Children Mary Dina Betty Dina is my ggggrandmother of Ormskirk sorry i have no birth or death information coild be Rc Thanks for your help Sue _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Sue, It appears that Elizabeth Lunt, Dinah Mary and Betty are living in Liverpool at that point in 1770, but have no legal settlement there. They must have claimed Poor relief from the Overseers and because they have no legal settlement - they are being removed back to Ormskirk. Although the record confirms that Elizabeth is the wife of John Lunt - it does not confirm whether or not he is with them. He is not being removed anyway - so maybe he remained in Ormskirk (or maybe he was a Boatman and away sailing at the time his wife and children claimed poor relief.) Regards June From: gene ology <geneology14@gmail.com> To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 18 June 2018, 16:11 Subject: [LAN] Court Record cannot make it out 1770. Easter Session Has this family commited a crime the family is John Lunt wife Elizabeth Children Mary Dina Betty Dina is my ggggrandmother of Ormskirk sorry i have no birth or death information coild be Rc Thanks for your help Sue _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
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1770. Easter Session Has this family commited a crime the family is John Lunt wife Elizabeth Children Mary Dina Betty Dina is my ggggrandmother of Ormskirk sorry i have no birth or death information coild be Rc Thanks for your help Sue