The following has been posted on the Liverpool & SW Lancashire Family History Society's Facebook page and I'm forwarding it here with the poster's permission. From Josie Smith: "hi all just a little project I have a bible with an inscription inside it says from john walmsley to his beloved wife mary walmsley Lancaster 1801 my dad found this while he was a demolition worker don't know where the house or building was its been in a cupboard for years and I would like to think if I could find any family and give the this bible if they wanted it any help would be appreciated" I've asked Josie for her email address so anyone with information or interest can get in touch with her, but haven't received that yet. In the meantime, if you can help but don't have access to the Facebook page, let me know and I'll pass your message along to Josie. Lynne

"Walking In Others Footsteps is a FREE celebration event of archives, archive film, new film and the magic of the personal. "The event includes the screening of rarely seen archive film from the North West, of Preston Morecambe and Barrow plus a new, commissioned 20-minute film, 'give me today, anytime' which uses the pioneering Elizabeth Roberts Working Class Oral History Archive as a starting point from which to explore memories and experiences of past lives within the region and also incorporates contemporary views. This entertaining film warm-heartedly presents how voices of the past meet in dialogue with modern life. "There will also be Q&A session with Dr Elizabeth Roberts, who created her remarkable archive - containing the testimonies from working class people in Barrow, Lancaster and Preston -: almost 50 years ago." Thu 5 July 2018 18:00 – 20:00 BST The Continental South Meadow Lane Preston PR1 8JP Register here: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/walking-in-others-footsteps-tickets-46729258470

Hi Shirley--I have Julia Pierce. I'm attaching a family group sheet in case she's someone you're interested in. Email me if you have questions. Pam Tremeptreme@yahoo.comFrom Sunny Florida, U.S.A. On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎June‎ ‎26‎, ‎2018‎ ‎05‎:‎46‎:‎03‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, Shirley Brown <essanjay37@gmail.com> wrote: anyone researching Lancs PIERCE families . My grandfather James b Wigan 1865  his grfather also James  mar Haslingden 1803 . There is a website where one can have a free 37 marker DNA test for the surname PIERCE . Interested to hear from anyone also looking for PIERCE relatives Shirley  NZ _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information.  http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator  at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

anyone researching Lancs PIERCE families . My grandfather James b Wigan 1865 his grfather also James mar Haslingden 1803 . There is a website where one can have a free 37 marker DNA test for the surname PIERCE . Interested to hear from anyone also looking for PIERCE relatives Shirley NZ

Thankyou, Jim Lancaster. That's as good an answer as could be. -rt_/)

From Bolton FHS, a branch of the Manchester & Lancashire Family History Society: Wednesday 4th July, 7.30pm David Tilsley, archivist at the Lancashire Archives, will give a talk about using manorial records for family history research. Guests and potential members are sure of a warm welcome. From 7.00pm tea & coffee are available in the room, and drinks are available from the bar. Unwanted genealogy magazines and CD’s can be swapped/collected at the meetings. At the beginning and end of every meeting there is a Help Desk, manned by experienced researchers, available to assist you with your genealogy problems. Montserrat Room, 1st Floor, Old Links Golf Club Chorley Old Road, Bolton, BL1 5SU

From Bolton Family History Society: NEW 'BEGINNERS WORKSHOP' Do you want to know more about your ancestors but aren't quite sure where or how to start? Our Beginners Workshop courses could be just what you are looking for. A five-week beginners course starts at Blackrod Library on Monday 1st October (1st Oct, 8th Oct, 15th Oct, 22nd Oct & 29th Oct) runs from 10am until 12 noon and costs £20.00 for the course. Please book through Blackrod Library on Tel: 01204 332381

It has nothing to do with religious authorities. BMDs relate to civil registration. It only became law on 01 July 1837 that all births, marriages and deaths needed to be registered with the civil authority in England and Wales. Baptisms, marriages and burials continued in churches but these also required a separate certificate from the local Registrar (although a Church of England vicar acted as registrar for marriages in parish churches). Ruth Sent from my iPad > On 24 Jun 2018, at 22:12, Colin Rowley <colinrowleyau@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > Just curious. What are the good reasons as to why some religious > authorities not releasing registers dated before 1837? > > Colin Rowley > >> On Sun, 24 Jun 2018, 10:23 PM jim lancaster <lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Hi, Ralph, >> >> Under the subject 'LancshireBMD' you ask >> >>> how complete are the record transcriptions for the 16th through 18th >> centuries? >> >> LancashireBMD (http://lancashirebmd.org.uk ) is an index to the civil >> registers held in the local Registrars' offices. This means that there >> are NO entries prior to July 1837. Different Registrars have put >> different closing dates on the Registers that can be indexed. >> >> The nearest equivalent for earlier times, is the Lancashire On-Line >> Parish Clerk Project (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ ). This is another >> volunteer project that is transcribing parish registers and other >> documents and includes any that it can access from the earliest times to >> the present. This project is dependent on having volunteers AND on >> being able to access parish registers. Some religious authorities are >> very cooperative but others have good reasons for not releasing their >> registers. You must also remember that some registers have been lost, >> some permanently and some just hidden. The latter may surface at any >> time. >> >> As we do not know how many parish registers were created, we cannot give >> an answer to your query. I think that both sites suggest that you check >> them at intervals to see if there is anything new for you. >> >> Sorry not to be able to give a more precise answer, >> >> Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) >> >>> On 23/06/2018 23:38, Ralph Taylor wrote: >>> >>> John, do oyu mind my asking, how complete are the record transcriptions >> for >>> the 16th through 18th centuries? >>> >>> 50%? 75% More? >>> -rt_/) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >> GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/ >> >> Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Archives: >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Jim, Thanks for the excellent explanation. Learnt more today. Colin, Melbourne , Australia. On Mon, 25 Jun 2018, 9:16 AM jim lancaster <lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, Colin, > > Thanks for your note - > > > What are the good reasons as to why some religious authorities not > releasing registers dated before 1837? > > First, the civil registers are 'public' documents. Yes we have the > right to see what is recorded but to find the details we have to pay for > a certified copy., we cannot just view the registers There is no such > thing as a free lunch. > > Religious registers on the other hand are private documents, generated > by and for the religious group concerned. Anglican marriage registers > are a possible exception because the minister officiating at a marriage > in an Anglican church is acting as the civil registrar. He compiles two > registers at the same time and, when they are full, one is sent to the > local Registrar as the civil register. I understand that an official > scale of fees for the consultation of registers held in a parish is > approved by Parliament. > > Many religious groups deposit their registers in a Record Office when > they are no longer needed for religious purposes. Some of these bodies > may impose closure periods on access to the registers to avoid problems > with data privacy. About two years ago, the Catholic Bishops of England > and Wales imposed a closure period of 110 years on Catholic sacramental > registers, and this has been observed by the Lancashire On-Line Parish > Clerk Project. I know of one Parish priest who does not allow access to > the early registers of his parish that are about 150 years old, because > there are still families living in his parish whose ancestors are > recorded in those registers. > > Before the ready access of the internet, the main way to access baptism, > marriage and death information for events prior to 1837 was to visit a > Record Office. Some registers had been filmed by the Mormon community > and you could scroll through reels of film to search. The Mormons, for > their own religious reasons, also compiled a database from these films - > the International Genealogical Index (IGI). It was noticeable that > there were very few records from Anglican parishes in Cheshire. I was > told that this because the then Bishop of Chester refused permission for > the LDS to film parish registers from the Diocese of Chester. The > reason for this was said to be that the Bishop did not want the LDS > posthumously enrolling the people named in the registers into the LDS > Church. This fear still exists today in places. > > Remember, most religious registers are private documents. > > Hope this helps, > > Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) > > On 24/06/2018 22:11, Colin Rowley wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > > Just curious. What are the good reasons as to why some religious > > authorities not releasing registers dated before 1837? > > > > Colin Rowley > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi, Colin, Thanks for your note - > What are the good reasons as to why some religious authorities not releasing registers dated before 1837? First, the civil registers are 'public' documents. Yes we have the right to see what is recorded but to find the details we have to pay for a certified copy., we cannot just view the registers There is no such thing as a free lunch. Religious registers on the other hand are private documents, generated by and for the religious group concerned. Anglican marriage registers are a possible exception because the minister officiating at a marriage in an Anglican church is acting as the civil registrar. He compiles two registers at the same time and, when they are full, one is sent to the local Registrar as the civil register. I understand that an official scale of fees for the consultation of registers held in a parish is approved by Parliament. Many religious groups deposit their registers in a Record Office when they are no longer needed for religious purposes. Some of these bodies may impose closure periods on access to the registers to avoid problems with data privacy. About two years ago, the Catholic Bishops of England and Wales imposed a closure period of 110 years on Catholic sacramental registers, and this has been observed by the Lancashire On-Line Parish Clerk Project. I know of one Parish priest who does not allow access to the early registers of his parish that are about 150 years old, because there are still families living in his parish whose ancestors are recorded in those registers. Before the ready access of the internet, the main way to access baptism, marriage and death information for events prior to 1837 was to visit a Record Office. Some registers had been filmed by the Mormon community and you could scroll through reels of film to search. The Mormons, for their own religious reasons, also compiled a database from these films - the International Genealogical Index (IGI). It was noticeable that there were very few records from Anglican parishes in Cheshire. I was told that this because the then Bishop of Chester refused permission for the LDS to film parish registers from the Diocese of Chester. The reason for this was said to be that the Bishop did not want the LDS posthumously enrolling the people named in the registers into the LDS Church. This fear still exists today in places. Remember, most religious registers are private documents. Hope this helps, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 24/06/2018 22:11, Colin Rowley wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Just curious. What are the good reasons as to why some religious > authorities not releasing registers dated before 1837? > > Colin Rowley

Hi Jim, Just curious. What are the good reasons as to why some religious authorities not releasing registers dated before 1837? Colin Rowley On Sun, 24 Jun 2018, 10:23 PM jim lancaster <lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, Ralph, > > Under the subject 'LancshireBMD' you ask > > > how complete are the record transcriptions for the 16th through 18th > centuries? > > LancashireBMD (http://lancashirebmd.org.uk ) is an index to the civil > registers held in the local Registrars' offices. This means that there > are NO entries prior to July 1837. Different Registrars have put > different closing dates on the Registers that can be indexed. > > The nearest equivalent for earlier times, is the Lancashire On-Line > Parish Clerk Project (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ ). This is another > volunteer project that is transcribing parish registers and other > documents and includes any that it can access from the earliest times to > the present. This project is dependent on having volunteers AND on > being able to access parish registers. Some religious authorities are > very cooperative but others have good reasons for not releasing their > registers. You must also remember that some registers have been lost, > some permanently and some just hidden. The latter may surface at any > time. > > As we do not know how many parish registers were created, we cannot give > an answer to your query. I think that both sites suggest that you check > them at intervals to see if there is anything new for you. > > Sorry not to be able to give a more precise answer, > > Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) > > On 23/06/2018 23:38, Ralph Taylor wrote: > > > > John, do oyu mind my asking, how complete are the record transcriptions > for > > the 16th through 18th centuries? > > > > 50%? 75% More? > > -rt_/) > > _______________________________________________ > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/ > > Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi, Ralph, Under the subject 'LancshireBMD' you ask > how complete are the record transcriptions for the 16th through 18th centuries? LancashireBMD (http://lancashirebmd.org.uk ) is an index to the civil registers held in the local Registrars' offices. This means that there are NO entries prior to July 1837. Different Registrars have put different closing dates on the Registers that can be indexed. The nearest equivalent for earlier times, is the Lancashire On-Line Parish Clerk Project (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ ). This is another volunteer project that is transcribing parish registers and other documents and includes any that it can access from the earliest times to the present. This project is dependent on having volunteers AND on being able to access parish registers. Some religious authorities are very cooperative but others have good reasons for not releasing their registers. You must also remember that some registers have been lost, some permanently and some just hidden. The latter may surface at any time. As we do not know how many parish registers were created, we cannot give an answer to your query. I think that both sites suggest that you check them at intervals to see if there is anything new for you. Sorry not to be able to give a more precise answer, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) On 23/06/2018 23:38, Ralph Taylor wrote: > > John, do oyu mind my asking, how complete are the record transcriptions for > the 16th through 18th centuries? > > 50%? 75% More? > -rt_/)

John, do oyu mind my asking, how complete are the record transcriptions for the 16th through 18th centuries? 50%? 75% More? -rt_/)

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Forwarded with permission -----Forwarded Message----- Message from John Marsden, Lancashire. Hi All New data has been added at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk as follows: Amended 75,592 Births for Manchester RD to include mother's maiden name, comprising: Ardwick (1881-1900) Added 44,926 Deaths for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1969-1974) These entries do not currently have age/date of birth. It is proposed to update in the future. Added 5,717 Marriages for West Lancashire RD comprising: All Saints, Hesketh with Becconsall (1951-1979) St. James', Westhead (1949-1979) St. Stephens, North Meols (1968-1986) St. Peter and St. Paul, Ormskirk (1955-1984) Lathom Park Chapel, Ormskirk (1958-1976) St. Mary the Virgin, Rufford (1962-1977) St. Mark, Scarisbrick (1953-1989) St. Paul, Skelmersdale (1959-1978) Holy Trinity, Tarleton (1954-1982) All Saints, Appley Bridge (1972-1975) St. Thomas, Upholland (1957-1975) Christ the Servant, Upholland, Digmoor (1970-1976) Christ Church, Aughton (1950-1977) St. Michaels, Aughton (1951-1984) Holy Trinity, Bickerstaffe (1957-1988) St. John, Burscough (1953-1977) Christ Church, Douglas (1953-1975) St. Cuthbert's, Halsall (1956-1976) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson and Phil Wharram and to Graham Robinson and their teams. John -- John Marsden Webmaster: www.lancashirebmd.org.uk www.cumbriabmd.org.uk www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk www.mlfhs.org.uk For access to all the UK's major BMD and Census sites visit https://www.UKBMD.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Family History sites visit http://www.UKGDL.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Military Family History sites visit http://www.UKMFH.org.uk/

Hi Robyn Sorry for the delay Mercator = Merchant These are records for those who graduated at Trinity College Dublin Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/06/2018 14:02, Robyn Clarke wrote: > Hello Nivard, > Many thanks for finding Rev. James POWER in Dublin. I believe he would be > the first one, as he stated on his Liverpool Marriage that his Father was > William Power, Music Seller and as well the age is accurate to his Census > entries in Crossens. > Could you please tell me what Mercator means after William.....and > confirming Trinity College Dublin Bachelor of Arts, Spring Session 1826 and > Master of Arts Nov. 1832. Or could he have graduated elsewhere in the UK. > Robyn

Hello Nivard, Many thanks for finding Rev. James POWER in Dublin. I believe he would be the first one, as he stated on his Liverpool Marriage that his Father was William Power, Music Seller and as well the age is accurate to his Census entries in Crossens. Could you please tell me what Mercator means after William.....and confirming Trinity College Dublin Bachelor of Arts, Spring Session 1826 and Master of Arts Nov. 1832. Or could he have graduated elsewhere in the UK. Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 10:28 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Re: Rev. James Power Newspaper Entries Thanks Hi Robyn In Alumni Dublinenses are two James POWER POWER James, Pen. (Mr Martis) , July 3, 1820, aged 15: s. of William, Mercator; b. Dublin. B.A. Vern. 1826, M.A. Nov. 1832 Power James, Pen. (P.T.), Oct 22 1827 aged 16; s. of Geoffrey, Nuper Militia; b. Longford. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/06/2018 13:10, Robyn Clarke wrote: > Dear Bob, > Thank you so much for accessing these Newspaper listings for me. The fact > that he was in Warrington before Crossens is paving the way for perhaps more > investigation........and it is known he was born in Ireland and that his > father was William Power, Music Seller, according to his Marriage in 1841, > so every little bit helps determine where he was stationed and when, before > the Census details kicked in. > I do appreciate all the wonderful interest, > Cheers, > Robyn _______________________________________________ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: GENUKI - a virtual reference library of genealogical information. http://www.genuki.org.uk/ Contact the list administrator at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/lancsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Robyn In Alumni Dublinenses are two James POWER POWER James, Pen. (Mr Martis) , July 3, 1820, aged 15: s. of William, Mercator; b. Dublin. B.A. Vern. 1826, M.A. Nov. 1832 Power James, Pen. (P.T.), Oct 22 1827 aged 16; s. of Geoffrey, Nuper Militia; b. Longford. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/06/2018 13:10, Robyn Clarke wrote: > Dear Bob, > Thank you so much for accessing these Newspaper listings for me. The fact > that he was in Warrington before Crossens is paving the way for perhaps more > investigation........and it is known he was born in Ireland and that his > father was William Power, Music Seller, according to his Marriage in 1841, > so every little bit helps determine where he was stationed and when, before > the Census details kicked in. > I do appreciate all the wonderful interest, > Cheers, > Robyn

Dear Bob, Thank you so much for accessing these Newspaper listings for me. The fact that he was in Warrington before Crossens is paving the way for perhaps more investigation........and it is known he was born in Ireland and that his father was William Power, Music Seller, according to his Marriage in 1841, so every little bit helps determine where he was stationed and when, before the Census details kicked in. I do appreciate all the wonderful interest, Cheers, Robyn --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

An article from the Chester Chronicle in 1850 relating to the North and South Wales Bank mentions James Power, Crossens Parsonage, Clerk.   Another from the York Herald, Jan 30th 1869 is a BMD reference to Sarah, Relict of the Rev James Power of Crossens Parsonage.  Sarah died 19th inst (i.e 19th Jan) at Liverpool. In 1835 there is a reference in the Belfast News-Letter to a Rev James Power A.M. for the Diocese of Dublin being admitted to holy orders to the order of Priest by the Lord Bishop of Kildare. In 1839 there is a reference to a Rev James Power attending a meeting of the Trinitarian Bible Society in Warrington.   However around this time there are also references to a Rev James Power who was clearly active in the parishes of Kill and Newton in the Waterford Diocese of Ireland.   Clearly there are two Rev James Powers around this time, one in Ireland, the other in Lancashire. Going back a bit there is a 1816 article that refers to a Rev James Power, sub-deacon of the church of Rome and late monk of the order of Le Trappe who "abjured the errors of the church of Rome" and was admitted to the established church of England and Ireland at Blandford church by the Bishop of Bristol.   I mention this one for completeness, not because he is obviously connected with the others. May 1841 the Liverpool Mercury shows the marriage at Christ Church of the Rev James Power of Crossens to Sarah, the youngest daughter if Mr Bromfield  of Trinity Place, (Liverpool) Jan 2 1852 the Liverpool Mercury sees the death on 9 Jan at Crossens parsonage of the Rev James Power, Incumbent. The May 15 1888 Manchester Courier records a memorial at St Johns Church, Crossens to the late Rev James Power,M.A. former Vicar.   It is a stained glass window with the cost derayed by Miss Power, the only surviving daughter of the late clergyman".   It mentions that he became Vicar of Crossens on his resignation of Vicar of Padgate near Warrington. As an aside I see the Rev Christopher Barrow mentioned in connection with the Warwick and Leamington Church Union in December 1849.   In January 1857 a Rev Christopher Barrow, rector of Barwell in Leicestershire married Charlotte Frederica, daur of Charles Brandt. BobC On 20/06/2018 09:01, Robyn Clarke wrote: > Thank you John for your expert search. I've got no excuses, except I went > with the online search engines on Ancestry and failed. My current double > vision one eye isn't helping, but no excuse. Operation 1st August. > As this family is not mine, I'm just trying to help others, as I mentioned > earlier, I am not spending dosh on it, just time and the wonderful expertise > that these Lists have on board. > I am on FMP, but did not obviously not press the right button. > If I may also ask, I did look at The British Newspaper Archives this morning > before the specialist's visit and although I could see numerous articles > about Rev. James Power of Liverpool, Crossens etc., my endeavours to access > the articles stated my password was wrong, so I tried three times, then > emailed the Company with my dilemma. I have not as yet heard back, but if > anyone is reading this and has a subscription to these Newspaper Archives > within the time span of 1830-1852 and can see these articles indexed, which > were contained on one page, any small link may tell me just where he was > around 1827. From the little I could read, he was a well respected Minister > in his community and died suddenly.........and of course, I may be chasing > geese. But at present, he is of the right name and age and a Clerk. I > shall mention the Will to those in N.S.W. and hope it leads to something > positive. > Again thank you John.......I hope everyone reads your suggestions..... > Cheers, > Robyn >