This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djl79ewing Surnames: HOLT Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52539.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Unless there are some huge coincidences Thomas Holt b 1857 was the son of Joseph Holt and Sarah Butterworth who were married Q1 1839 in Rochdale. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sumi48 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52539.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1891 England Census about Ernest Holt Name: Ernest Holt Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Holt Mother's Name: Hannah Holt Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Wardleworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Rochdale Sub-registration District: Wardleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3337 Folio: 38 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Holt 34 Overlooker (Carpet) Hannah Holt 33 Joseph Holt 12 Fred Holt 11 Harry Holt 9 Thomas Holt 7 Frank Holt 4 Ernest Holt 2 1901 England Census about Ernest Holt Name: Ernest Holt Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Holt Mother's Name: Hannah Holt Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rochdale Ecclesiastical parish: Rochdale St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Rochdale Sub-registration District: Wardleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 94 Piece: 3839 Folio: 162 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Holt 44 Hannah Holt 45 Joseph Holt 22 Frank Holt 14 Ernest Holt 12 Leonard Holt 10 May Holt 7 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sumi48 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52539.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ernest HOLT married Susan SMITH at Christ Church Healey in 1912 Name: Ermest Holt Birth Year: abt 1889 Age: 23 Marriage Date: 1 Jun 1912 Parish: Healey, Christ Church Parish as it Appears: Healey Father's Name: Thomas Holt Spouse's Name: Susan Smith 25 Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Smith Ernest a bachelor occ Cotton Work Splitter address 299 Whitworth Rd Rochdale father's occupation Overlooker Carpet Dept. Susan spinster 25 address 532 Whitworth Rd father's occ Under(?) Carder. Witnesses Leonard HOLT and Hanna Maria CURTIS Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: the_prodigal Surnames: Holt Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52539/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Dad was born in Rochdale in 1923, to Susan Holt (nee Smith) and Ernest Holt. He had one sister, Gladys. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

It looks as though there was an estate in the area called Sagers. See: http://www.archive.org/stream/goosnarghpastpre00cookiala/goosnarghpastpre00cookiala_djvu.txtand search for Sager. It suggests the estate owed rent to a local school. There appear to have been people called Sagers living in the area. Malcolm On 17 November 2013 17:12, Stephen Savage <stephen.savage54@btopenworld.com>wrote: > Hi > Does anyone know where or what " Sagers " was near Goosnargh-possibly an > institution or hospital? > > My GGG father John Savage died there in 1838: :his death was recorded as > reported by another" inmate". His widow was living at Wikins End Bleasdale > > I cannot find such an address in the Census or on the map > > Any suggestions very much appreciated > Stephen > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Whittingham hospital was a mental institution, and Goosnargh "hospital" is a home for old folks. However, as far as I am aware, neither was known as "Sagers". Ruth > From: mercer.harris@hotmail.co.uk > To: stephen.savage54@btopenworld.com; lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:08:38 +0000 > Subject: Re: [LAN] Sagers Goosnargh > > Hello Stephen, > > I know there was an Asylum in Whittingham, not far from Goosnargh for some > years. I do not know any details, as I do not live in Lancashire, though > many of my ancestors come from the area. > > Looking in Google; there was a hospital in Goosnargh, as well as in > Whittingham, at the date you are interested in. Might be what you are > looking for! > > Katharine > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Stephen Savage" <stephen.savage54@btopenworld.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:12 PM > To: <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LAN] Sagers Goosnargh > > > Hi > > Does anyone know where or what " Sagers " was near Goosnargh-possibly an > > institution or hospital? > > > > My GGG father John Savage died there in 1838: :his death was recorded as > > reported by another" inmate". His widow was living at Wikins End Bleasdale > > > > I cannot find such an address in the Census or on the map > > > > Any suggestions very much appreciated > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > > fees! > > > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Stephen, I know there was an Asylum in Whittingham, not far from Goosnargh for some years. I do not know any details, as I do not live in Lancashire, though many of my ancestors come from the area. Looking in Google; there was a hospital in Goosnargh, as well as in Whittingham, at the date you are interested in. Might be what you are looking for! Katharine -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Savage" <stephen.savage54@btopenworld.com> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:12 PM To: <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LAN] Sagers Goosnargh > Hi > Does anyone know where or what " Sagers " was near Goosnargh-possibly an > institution or hospital? > > My GGG father John Savage died there in 1838: :his death was recorded as > reported by another" inmate". His widow was living at Wikins End Bleasdale > > I cannot find such an address in the Census or on the map > > Any suggestions very much appreciated > Stephen > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am trying to find any relations to George Isherwood born about 1820s. He was sent to Tasmania as a convict then ended up in New Zealand going by the name of George Green. I think Green may have been his mothers maiden name Jan in NZ

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LUGAROU Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/40041.202.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1871 ENGLAND-WALES CENSUS: PATRICK, WIFE MARY, DAUGHTERS MARY AND BRIDGET AND SON THOMAS. #13 IN COURT 6, COLLINGWOOD STREET, LIVERPOOL. PATRICK, AGE 33, DOCK LABOURER WIFE MARY, AGE 30 DAUGHTER MARY, AGE 3 BRIDGET, AGE 2 MONTHS THOMAS, AGE 4 YEARS MY FAMILY, ANN MURPHY FOLLOWS IN NEXT APARTMENT IN THE SAME COURT. HOPE THIS HELPS. - JIM MURPHY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LUGAROU Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/40041.202.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1871 ENGLAND-WALES CENSUS: PATRICK, WIFE MARY, DAUGHTERS MARY AND BRIDGET AND SON THOMAS. #13 IN COURT 6, COLLINGWOOD STREET, LIVERPOOL. PATRICK, AGE 33, DOCK LABOURER WIFE MARY, AGE 30 DAUGHTER MARY, AGE 3 BRIDGET, AGE 2 MONTHS THOMAS, AGE 4 YEARS MY FAMILY, ANN MURPHY FOLLOWS IN NEXT APARTMENT IN THE SAME COURT. HOPE THIS HELPS. - JIM MURPHY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LUGAROU Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/40041.202.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1871 ENGLAND-WALES CENSUS: PATRICK, WIFE MARY, DAUGHTERS MARY AND BRIDGET AND SON THOMAS. #13 IN COURT 6, COLLINGWOOD STREET, LIVERPOOL. PATRICK, AGE 33, DOCK LABOURER WIFE MARY, AGE 30 DAUGHTER MARY, AGE 3 BRIDGET, AGE 2 MONTHS THOMAS, AGE 4 YEARS MY FAMILY, ANN MURPHY FOLLOWS IN NEXT APARTMENT IN THE SAME COURT. HOPE THIS HELPS. - JIM MURPHY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LUGAROU Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/40041.205/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1871 ENGLAND-WALES CENSUS: PATRICK, WIFE MARY, DAUGHTERS MARY AND BRIDGET AND SON THOMAS. #13 IN COURT 6, COLLINGWOOD STREET, LIVERPOOL. PATRICK, AGE 33, DOCK LABOURER WIFE MARY, AGE 30 DAUGHTER MARY, AGE 3 BRIDGET, AGE 2 MONTHS THOMAS, AGE 4 YEARS MY FAMILY, ANN MURPHY FOLLOWS IN NEXT APARTMENT IN THE SAME COURT. HOPE THIS HELPS. - JIM MURPHY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Looking for the parents of Joseph Tarbuck, b. 1799 in Aughton, m. Mary Singleton in 1825 at St. Peter's Liverpool, d, 1877 in Liverpool. Any help would be hugely appreciated. Gloria Simpson Tarbuck

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: colteaho Surnames: Te Aho, Gemmell, Papuni, Reay Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/3511.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kirsty and Rachak Charles Lucus Reay, who was married to Hannah Gemmell I understand are buried in Wairoa. From them came the seven daughters, Emily Reay married Richard Dick Thompson and their daughter Katie (Kathleen) married Hori PaulTe Aho My dad was Tom Papuni/ Te Aho Dads mum was Mako Papuni (Nee Te Aho). Dad was the eldest and was raised by Katie and Hori . He was brought up with Uncle Snowee (*Richard Lucas Te Aho). Although he was Makos brother for dad he was a brother and not an uncle Richard Thompson was the son of William Thompson and Maata nee Pumaranga Thanks for your post Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi, I have been trying to locate my Cunningham family after the 1861 Census - plenty of Cunningham's but with lack of information due to the fact that my gtx2 grandfather James Cunningham hid the truth to his arrival in Western Australia.....being a transported convict as was his older brother Patrick. My gtx3 grandparents were James and Bridget Cunningham and the rest of the family were Ann, John and Bridget. The family left Ireland abt.1843 and lived in the Manchester area as all the children worked in the mills. Maybe I should put in a request to Santa to help me find the Cunningham's. Cheers Maz Perth, Western Australia

Hello I am still looking for the Baptism of my GG Grandmother SARAH ANN GREAVES who was born about 1821 in Limehurst, Lancashire. Her father was RICHARD GREAVES who was a Glassblower in 1840 and a Baker in 1846. I have everything else about her but I can't find a Baptism. She died in 1870 and is buried in St Michael's Church, Ashton under Lyne. Pat

DEATHS. METCALFE. - At Kemplay Tollgate, Penrith, on the 3rd inst., MR. RICHARD METCALFE, aged 67 years. POOL. - On the 23rd ult., at the residence of her son-in-law, MR. R. THORPE, Fitzroy-street, Baker-st., Liverpool, HANNAH relict of JOHN POOL, late of Kirkbythore, in the 78th year of her age. WILKINSON. - Died on the 4th May, at 22, Cumberland Terrace, Regents Park, London, ELIZA ELLEN, daughter of ROBERT WILKINSON, Esq., of Marton House, Westmorland. BARKER. - In Duke-street, Penrith, on the 1st inst., JOHN BARKER, aged 4 months. WATSON. - In Castlegate, Penrith, on the 2nd inst., MR. DANIEL WATSON, aged 47 years. THROSSEL. - At Longmarton, on the 2nd inst., KATE FRANCES, daughter of MR. WM. THROSSEL, of Westminster, London, and grandaughter of J. THROSSEL, Esq., of Longmarton, aged 5 months. GREENOP. - At Liverpool, on the 2nd inst., CATHERINE, eldest daughter of MR. GEORGE GREENOP, of Renwick Mill. AIRY. - At Kirkbythore, on the 4th inst., the wife of MR. RICHARD AIRY.

Hi Does anyone know where or what " Sagers  " was near Goosnargh-possibly an institution or hospital?   My GGG father  John Savage died there in 1838: :his death was recorded as reported by another" inmate". His widow was living at Wikins End Bleasdale   I cannot find such an address in the Census or on the map   Any suggestions very  much appreciated Stephen

Excellent idea, someone might get a lost rellie for xmas. My surnames are Cunningham, Hagan, Dixon, Bibby. All around Liverpool, 1860's to 1890's. Have been trying to find the birth of my ggrandfather Patrick Cunningham early 1860's in Liverpool for many many years. Cheers Lesley in Oz.

Still trying to prove the antecedants of my 4xgrandfather, SAMUEL OGDEN. He was married to BETTY HAWORTH, was a linen weaver, and lived in Blackley and surrounds. They had four children that I know of, including my 3x grandfather, JOHN OGDEN b. 1788. If anyone is connected to this OGDEN family, would love to hear from you! mary lou -----Original Message----- From: LW <daletara@optusnet.com.au> To: lancsgen <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Nov 16, 2013 10:59 pm Subject: Re: [LAN] Swapping Info Excellent idea, someone might get a lost rellie for xmas. My surnames are Cunningham, Hagan, Dixon, Bibby. All around Liverpool, 1860's to 1890's. Have been trying to find the birth of my ggrandfather Patrick Cunningham early 1860's in Liverpool for many many years. Cheers Lesley in Oz. :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message