This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PamelaWagster Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52554.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Not having much luck tracking down Abel Hunter in census. I can see a marraige between Abel Huter and a Anne Humphreys AMJ 1874 8B 749 West Derby ,Lancs. Then 1891 census: Name: Elizabeth Hunter Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Everton Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration District: West Derby Sub-registration District: South Everton ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2945 Folio: 101 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age William Humphrey 34 Mary J Humphrey 33 Mary J Humphrey 9 William Humphrey 8 Frances Humphrey 6 Thomas Humphrey 5 Emily Humphrey 4 Annie Humphrey 8 Months Elizabeth Hunter 15 Sarah Hunter 8 Long shot but looks as though Elizabeth is with relatives,along with Sarah aged 8yrs. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PamelaWagster Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52554.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you seen this,found here on Ancestry. The original image can be viewed on Ancestry. Groom transcribed as McLoughTon ,on the image it looks like McLouGHLin. Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Elizabeth Ann Hunter Name: Elizabeth Ann Hunter Birth Year: abt 1875 Age: 19 Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1894 Parish: Liverpool, All Saints Spouse's Name: Dennis McLoughton Father's Name: Abel Hunter Spouse Father's Name: Anthony McLoughton Reference Number: 283 ALS/3/8 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: beauie1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52554/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi,I am looking for information about Elizabeth Anne Hunter who married Dennis Mcloughlin in Liverpool in 1894.Dennis Parents were Anthony Mcloughlin and Margaret Abbott,I can't find any information about their marriage on any of the catholic marriage registers for Liverpool.I would like to find Elizabeth's parents names. Thanks Bronwyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nickstuartjones6 Surnames: Nash Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/42515.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Did you find anyway, Joan, about how to get more information about your 9 year old relative in the 1901 census for the West Derby Union Cottage Home ? I have a 15 year old relative, Mildred Nash, in the home in the 1901 census and have been trying to find where I can get more information about when and how she arrived in the home and where she went to afterwards. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52549.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: many thanks for the links Fiona - unfortunalrty they both are not ther e- just wondering which would eb the nearest place as they were living in kirkdale i simply dont know liverpool at all - i only know the Beatles came from there i have been there twice my whole life driving through Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi Mike, What looks like James is living with his mother in Chorley in 1871. He is a commercial traveller. A burial that looks like him is at St John, Manchester, Jan 15 1878, Abode Wilmslow, and son is given as a relation so presumably he was buried in the same grave as his father. However, there is a probate for a James HOW, late of Grove Street, Wilmslow, Butcher who died 10 Jan 1878 to Mary HOW Widow the relict. So did he change his occupation or is there more than one of them? Hope this helps, Christine

Hi Christine, I, too, have James HOW with his mother in 1871 but have also traced him to 1861 and 1851. I agree that, quite possibly, he is buried with his father, George, at St. Johns and, in the hope that I could find a MI to confirm this, is why I was hoping to establish whether the St. Johns Cemetery even exists today. No question that James married Mary ASTLE, November 25, 1875, at St. Gabriel, Hulme, Lancashire, UK but whether he ever became a Butcher, I don't know. Just yesterday, I sent off for James' Probate in the hope that it might tell me something. By the way, his father, George, was a Pawnbroker whose estate was Probated April 5, 1870 and valued at less than £7,000. Not an insignificant amount of £ in the 1870's. I've also sent off for George's Probate details. Thanks for trying to help. Much appreciated. Mike -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christine Benson Sent: November-28-13 12:57 PM To: Lancashire Mailing List Subject: Re: [LAN] St. John, Manchester cemetery lookup Hi Mike, What looks like James is living with his mother in Chorley in 1871. He is a commercial traveller. A burial that looks like him is at St John, Manchester, Jan 15 1878, Abode Wilmslow, and son is given as a relation so presumably he was buried in the same grave as his father. However, there is a probate for a James HOW, late of Grove Street, Wilmslow, Butcher who died 10 Jan 1878 to Mary HOW Widow the relict. So did he change his occupation or is there more than one of them? Hope this helps, Christine :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, I think you will find that is Row - of - Trees, Alderley Edge, Cheshire. If you use use Google Maps https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl and search for Row - of - Trees, Alderley Edge, Cheshire East, United Kingdom you will find it. If you zoom out once you will see Row - of - Trees marked. Zoom in again and use the peg man on the left to "walk" up the road and you will find Chorley Village Hall on the north side of the road. Note if you look for Chorley, Cheshire you will find yet another Chorley! Hope this helps, Christine >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael B. Gibson >George HOW (Born circa 1802 in Ireland) died March 20, 1870 at Row of >Trees, >Chorley, Lancashire, UK. <

George HOW (Born circa 1802 in Ireland) died March 20, 1870 at Row of Trees, Chorley, Lancashire, UK. He was buried March 24, 1870 at St. John, Manchester, Lancashire, UK. His Estate, which was Probated April 5 1870 at Chester, Cheshire, UK names his widow, Jane (nee Hodkinson) as one of the Executors. Although I think St. John's Church was demolished many years ago, I'm wondering if a graveyard remains and, if so, whether there are grave monuments there that might include one for Mr. HOW. His wife, his son, George William HOW, his married daughter, Elizabeth Jane WHALLEY and her husband, Andrew WHALLEY are all buried at Southern Cemetery but another son, James HOW (Born circa Q1 1844 in Manchester) is not with them and it is he that I am particularly interested in finding. James married Mary ASTLE on November 25, 1875 at St. Gabriel, Hulme, Lancashire, UK. Mike G, Oakville, Canada

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hilarygunn Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52550.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As you say, sad indeed. Edward the father and his one year old son Richard returned to Crofton and Edward remarried but had no more children. Richard had a financially successful life but with his own sadnesses. One of his two children died very young, he divorced his wife in 1875 after just four years of marriage and she kept the daughter (even though she was the guilty party according to the records on Ancestry) He went through several court cases, lost a lot of money and died quite young himself. He has a large tombstone in the graveyard of Crofton church but his widow remarried so is buried elsewhere. I would really appreciate a photo of Jane,s grave, if it is findable of course - I've searched for enough myself to realise what a hopeless task it can often be.There's always the possibility of a little extra snippet of information in an inscription though. Thank you again, Hilary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: platty293 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52552/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Try Ancestry.com and search Liverpool Burials....I'm sure you'l find them there. Joe Platt Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djl79ewing Surnames: FURBISHER Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52550.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cheshire Parish Reg. Cheadle Saint Mary's Burials. A sad little episode - the following are buried at St Mary's, Cheadle in the same grave: No. 16/43. August 1837 Edward Furbisher aged 2 months June 24th 1842 William Furbisher 10 days July 10th 1842 Jane Furbisher 36 years The abode of both Wm and Jane was given as Oldham. I don't have the details for Edward. Copy of the records for Wm and Jane are attached - they were on the same page of the register as you will see. Cheadle is a little over 10 miles from Oldham . As I visit Cheadle quite frequently I shall have a look around the grave yard and take a photograph of the grave....IF I can find it. Experience has taught me that searching for graves can be a disappointment, sometimes they have disappeared, the stone has been removed or it is unreadable etc. However, I shall try and either send you a picture or explain why i have not . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi List Anyone interested in WW1, why not visit my site at www.lindleyancestry.com. On the home page click on Walter Hutchinson and you will be surprised. Many thanks Regards John Lindley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hilarygunn Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52550.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thankyou for the images, it's useful to know witnesses names just in case they are relatives, although so far I haven't come across these two. You're right about me not knowing the area, I've had ancestors moving toYorkshire from Oldbury and some from Shropshire but this a new place to me so I'm not sure what's where so to speak, or which records are available and where.I'll have to do some research about it. Thanks again, Hilary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mi2early Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52551.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It will be much easier for someone to help you if you'll provide their names and the dates they died. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

From: Shirley Brown [mailto:jayaness@clear.net.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2013 1:08 p.m. Subject: Coastguard-Belleisle I discovered a Naval record for my grgrandfather on the ship Belleisle in 1881 for 8 mths . I could never find him in the 1881 census which was odd as he spent all his life in service before and after this episode . While checking the National Archives a few yrs ago for something else just entered his name and was amazed to find a record for him . It has always puzzled us as to why he was on this ship which was sailing in the Irish sea . There is mention in this new information found National Archives / Discovery ' Collection : Records of the Admiralty , Naval forces , Royal Marines , Coastguard and related bodies . " Interested to know anything regarding joining the Coastguard . Was this a part time occupation ??? Did one volunteer ??? Kind regards June

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djl79ewing Surnames: FURBISHER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52550.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I thought that you may be interested in this attached record from Cheshire Parish Reg. In case you are unfamiliar with the area you may like to know that Cheadle was (before changes in county boundaries) in north Cheshire and shared a boundary with Lancashire (at the River Mersey). The same boundary is now the boundary between Cheadle (now part of Stockport) and Manchester. Cheadle is about 7 miles from the centre of Manchester. I have some access to Cheshre records so shall have a search for burials. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hilarygunn Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52550.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much, that helps a lot. I'll try and trace Jane a bit further now I have a last name for her. Edward's move from Crofton, West Yorks to the other side of the Pennines is still unexplained though - a long way to go.His father was a joiner and no one else in the family moved away for several generations, they all stayed very local except for Edward, he is also the only one who had anything to do with Innkeeping. I'll probably never find that out though, Thanks again, Hilary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Fiona_Bathgate Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52549.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Some Toxteth Park burials are online at http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/. Ditto for Anfield Cemetery Burials are online at http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/Anfield Cemetery Web/Anfield Cemetery Main Index.html Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

I notice Wonkypedia has this on the Belleisle 'The third Belleisle was the lead ship of her class of ironclad battleship, originally built for the Ottoman Empire as Peiki Shereef, but purchased in 1876, used as a coast defense ship and expended as a target ship in 1903.' Where does it say 'Coastguard', sure it was not 'Coast Defence' which might be slightly different. In January 1881 it was guardship at Kingstown with full crew and a large number of marines on board. It was still there on 29th March 1881 and a couple of weeks later so was probably there on census day. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Brown Sent: 27 November 2013 00:29 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] FW: Coastguard-Belleisle From: Shirley Brown [mailto:jayaness@clear.net.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2013 1:08 p.m. Subject: Coastguard-Belleisle I discovered a Naval record for my grgrandfather on the ship Belleisle in 1881 for 8 mths . I could never find him in the 1881 census which was odd as he spent all his life in service before and after this episode . While checking the National Archives a few yrs ago for something else just entered his name and was amazed to find a record for him . It has always puzzled us as to why he was on this ship which was sailing in the Irish sea . There is mention in this new information found National Archives / Discovery ' Collection : Records of the Admiralty , Naval forces , Royal Marines , Coastguard and related bodies . " Interested to know anything regarding joining the Coastguard . Was this a part time occupation ??? Did one volunteer ??? Kind regards June :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message