This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52565.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: yes and image of it would be great - we have so many with the word 'bridge' off the top of my head though i can only think of Bridgewater (near salford) which may have been known as a small district on its own as we have the Bridgewater Canal , Bridgewater Hotel , Bridgewater Bank South, Bridgewater Bank - and one of the nicest areas around .(actually not too familiar with some of Manchester as I live just outside) Also , several others spring to mind with the word Bridge at the end rather than at the front. hope this helps Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mi2early Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52565.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It would be easier for someone to help if you could attach an image of the document. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eworld_2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52563.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This from Lancashire OPC might have some connection: Baptism: 19 Oct 1755 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England James Roberts - s illegitimate of Reputed father Henry Roberts, of Bolton? & Sarah Roberts Abode: Bolden? Notes: [place name has been overwritten and difficult to read] Register: Baptisms 1734 - 1756, Page 109, Entry 21 Source: LDS Film 1471023 but doesn't answer your query unfortunately. Colne was a chapelry of Whalley an extremely large parish and the Bolden might be Bolton by Bowland. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robert345c Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52563.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Lyn, you don't say where Sarah is from but I found this marriage Henry Roberts & Sarah Hubbard 17 Jun 1750 St Mary, Islington Middlessex. hope this helps Robert Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GarethEvans91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52560.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If that is the same one that's buried in New South Wales (which is likely) then it is not my ancestor, he was born in 1897. My search goes on Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GarethEvans91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52560.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If that is the same one that's buried in New South Wales (which is likely) then it is not my ancestor, he was born in 1897. My search goes on Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ladybridge Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/39286.2.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I am sorry I have not been in touch since mid Oct but my wife has had an Op for Cancer so I am not at the moment able to do a great deal for you, I have given all the info I have so for the moment I will drop out but keep an eye on your progress. Arthur Clemmett Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jimlancaster94 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52544.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I support the statements by Ovington1 and AnthonyMarr about RC canon law. Before July 1837, Catholics, like almost everyone else in England had to be married in a licensed Anglican church before an authorised Anglican clergyman. As this was seen by some as accepting the teachings of the Anglican church, it was not liked but the Catholic clergy accepted that it was required by the civil law. In practice, some people were married by their local priest, some were married by their local priest and had a marriage service in the Anglican church, and some just had the Anglican service. There were probably two factors affecting their decision, did they have property that should pass to their children, or they likely to need parish relief. After July 1837 the civil registration of marriages began and Catholics could be married in their own chapel, by their own rites, provided the chapel was licensed AND the Registrar was present for the civil registration. Again some Catholics continued to use the local Anglican church for their marriage, possibly bec! ause it was a nicer church, or it was the accepted local place to be married, or... In 1898 the civil law was changed and non-Anglican congregation could apply to have an Authorised Person appointed for their chapel. Many Methodist and other Free Church congregation made use of this legislation but it was not widely used by Catholic chapels until about 1970. In 1837, England was considered a missionary territory by the Church authorities in Rome. In the early 1800s England was divided into four Districts and in 1840 Lancashire became a separate District. It was only in 1850 that Bishops were appointed to dioceses in England and Wales. England was still considered a missionary country and priests were appointed to Missions. The priest served the people who attended his mission, even if they had passed another Catholic chapel to attend his chapel. In 1908, the papal document, 'Ne Temere' was issued because the Catholic authorities in Rome were concerned about bigamy. The Church's teaching is that marriage is for life and it was concerned that people were getting round this by moving or migrating to another country. Amongst the changes that were instituted was the requirement for a Certificate of Freedom to Marry, this being a copy of the baptism register for the person including any notes. After the marriage the officiatin! g priest had to inform the church of baptism of the details of the marriage for them to record against the baptism entry. It was only about 1920, that England's status was changed, canon law became fully applicable and Parishes were established. > john dunford born 1812,now did he marry ann campbell born 1819/or did he marry ann hannah born 1819, it seems there children have the same names ,and same date of birth,and married the same people like me you would say this is impossible, but British genealogy say could her name been ann hannah campbell Where did these statements originate? Have you seen the ORIGINAL records of these statements? LancashireBMD (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ ) which is an index to the local Registrar's Registers (the PRIMARY record) rather than the GRO Index, does not have an entry for a DUNFORD marriage in 1837. This suggests that the marriage was before July 1837. If the marriage was in a Catholic church the entry MIGHT have been in Latin. In this case, the priest would have rendered the name he was told into Latin. The problem we face is that the priest did not have a list of Latin equivalents for English names. He guessed a 'best' fit and so it is not possible to translate the Latin form back into English with any certainty. 'Anna' in Latin MAY represent the English names Ann, Anna, Anne, Annie, Hannah, Nan, Nancy and probably others. You must make your choice based on your knowledge of your family. With regard to where baptism can take place, about six weeks ago my great grand son was brought down from Orkney to be baptised in the parish in Bury where I live. My parish priest readily agreed to perform the baptism but required my grand daughter to obtain the written permission of her parish priest. Hope this helps Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GarethEvans91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52560.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If that is the same one that's buried in New South Wales (which is likely) then it is not my ancestor, he was born in 1897. My search goes on Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AntonyMarr Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52544.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ovington1_1 is correct. It was certainly possible to marry elsewhere than in your home parish - the priest in the officiating parish may have required proof of baptism in the catholic faith though, either in the form of a certificate, or written confirmation form the home parish priest. And o pre-1837, the marriage would have been required to take place in an Anglican church (probably with another catholic ceremony as well) anyway. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ovington1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52544.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am not sure it would make an ounce of difference to the situation but the need for Catholics having to marry or baptize in their parish of residence I would not agree with, nor can I find anything in canon law to suggest this was ever the case In general marriage took place in the home parish of the bride but that is far from being necessary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ANGELABECKETT1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52555.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Linda, im not sure where the danson comes from, must come from somewhere, his parents are Thomas wolstenholme and Mary a clipson. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Additions from our friends at Lancashire BMD: 4 November 2013 Added 4,539 Births for Trafford RD comprising: Stretford (1932-1949); Urmston (1900-1944) Added 3,460 Deaths for Trafford RD comprising: Stretford (1953-1956); Urmston (1947-1950) 5 November 2013 Added 11,002 Births for North Sefton RD comprising: Formby (1893-1899); North Meols (1893-1899 Added 20,235 Deaths for Oldham RD comprising: Boundary Park A (1969-1976); Boundary Park B (1969-1976); Crompton & Royton (1969-1974); Middleton (1969-1974); Oldham A (1968-1976); Oldham B (1969-1976); Saddleworth (1969-1974) 19 November 2013 Added 16,580 Births for Hyndburn RD comprising: Haslingden (1837-1871; 1883-1884; 1887-1890; 1926-1928; 1936-1954) ~ ~ ~ ~ Cheshire BMD and Yorkshire BMD were also updated. Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: velpremus Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52560.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Emigration: Name: Hazel DAWE Date of departure: 8 September 1921 Port of departure: London Destination port: Melbourne Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1919 (calculated from age) Age: 2 Marital Status: Sex: Female Occupation: Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 32 The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Betty Irene DAWE Mrs Edith Mabel DAWE Mrs Gertrude DAWE Mr Herbert John DAWE Kathleen Edith DAWE Mrs Mary DAWE Phyllis Irene DAWE Mr Thomas DAWE Thomas DAWE Mr William Hoskin DAWE Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GarethEvans91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52560.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the help, I have everything for him except for his death record, his wife Lily died in 1975 in Ramsbottom and on the death certificate he is still alive it says he is retired, there is a slight chance the Australian one could be him, I'll look into it, thanks very much Gareth Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pollyhodkinson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52560.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found the same 4 children. I also found his Army records. He was in the 2/1 North Somerset Reg. number 165688 and in Jan 1919 he applied for transfer to the Machine Gun Corp. His number then was 180649. He joined in Dublin and gave his address as 63 Park Street, Penrhiwceiber, Glamorgan, S. Wales. He gave his address as Walmsley Street, Bury, Lancashire on his discharge. The only death I can find for a Hazel Dawe was in 1976 in Casino West, New South Wales, Australia. I also found him in the 1901 and 1911 census if you want the information Best wishes, Pauline Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lyndyloo2013 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/40897.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Tony, I am your cousin. Pat Bellis was my dad. I notice your mum and dads house is for sale and wondered how they were. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: henrywalsh1 Surnames: Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52560.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, the Lancashire bmd site has 4 births for children surname Dawe mmn Foote : Dorothy 1921, William 1923, Robert 1924, Stanley 1927, all reg. Ramsbottom (Bury) no luck with the death of Hazel I'm afraid. HTH,Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RODUNFORD58 Surnames: dunford Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52491.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i said could not trace where they all lived in st marys parish well i have found it and more john dunford and martha dunford and all there five children all lived at ryans place,naylor street st marys parish liverpool john dunford was a carter,with a stable at ryans place naylor.street, source gores dirctory 1827 it seems they all moved out of st marys parish in 1830 ,and then lived at titchfield street st anthonys parish liverpool.john dunford born 1778.died 1837 at titchfield street st anthonys parish at the age of 59,died of fever,his son john dunford born 1812,paid for his burial ,source st anthonys burial records, roman catholic laws state no one is allowed to marry,or to baptize your children unless you live in that parish because of this thomas dunford moved out of titchfield street st anthonys parish to lve at bevington street st peters parish so he could marry sarah williams in 1837,john dunford father was at the wedding ,same year he died two years later william dunford born 1818 done the same ,moved out of titchfield street st anthonys to bevington street st peters parish to marry ellen carroll in 1839. thomas dunford married sarah williams in 1837,thomas dunford was 22 years old at the time.living in bevington street liverpool in 1837 they moved to burlington street,liverpool where john dunford born saturday 11 november 1837,died in 1839 children of thomas and sarah are albert dunford born 1847 james dunford born 1855 robert dunford born 1840 thomas dunford born 1842 died 1843 john dunford born 1837 died 1839 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ovington1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52557.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: WW2 service records are still closed to the general public, you can apply for them from Glasgow, there is a charge of £30 and proof of the persons death may be required Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>