This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52351.3.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi, Sorry for the delay I was working out something on the schoolmasters at Farnworth grammar school (scwofts) if you dont already ahve it let me kow and i will send you the link or just key in Farnworth Grammar School and the word Scowcrofts might come up on google - # Anyway - the remains at Tonge were all put in a mass burial grave with one single headsotne so nit much point in going to see it - i googled exhumation companies i was surprised at how they did the work even found one firm which was around over 160 years ago - I sould imagine all the bodies in 1860 went by horse and cart to Tonge (just down the road) in bags or something and as they were digging bodies dating back to goodness knows what year - i cant imagine how that went down with their relatives - I still dont fully understand WHY they were re-interred in the 1860s it was something to do wtih burial rites and acts - but they LEFT Samuel Cromptons undisturbed as well as a few other 'names' (incidently Samuel Crompton didnt get a lot for his invention at the time ) but these would have the affect of attracting vicitors to the church - i will find out more when i pop into Bolton after Xmas (one short bus ride but busy with the kids at the min and Xmas) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: smk280zx Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/3596.7280.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there, I'm fairly new to all this, as not long joined. I have a John Fairbrother & Elizabeth Collier, listed in my family tree, they married in 1887 in England. I have 5 children listed to them. I have his farther listed as Joseph and mother as Mary. I have nothing after this point. I hope you can help out in some way. Thanks. Kind Regards. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: martinbriscoe57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52351.3.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, long time since I looked at the SCOWCROFT family. I got a lot of the dates etc from a GEDCOM file that was sent me (Scwcft.ged) so probably got the wrong information there. DeceasedOnline don't seem to have any SCOWCROFT burials in Bolton in 1853. With being the parish church, it is quite likely it is one of the many graves that were removed - there is a list available. Which William is that? MB Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: seastmead47 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/4563.6530.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Graffiti The 1841 census records available on dalesgenealogy.com show this miner's family living at High Green Reeth opposite the CB Inn. ALCOCK John/40/lead miner/N ALCOCK Hannah/40/N ALCOCK Margaret/12/Y In 1851: ALCOCK John/Head/M/50/proprietor of houses/Durham/Barnard Castle ALCOCK Hannah/wife/M/51/dressmaker/Durham/Step End ALCOCK Margaret/dau/U/22/dressmaker/Yks/Arkengarthdale In 1861: Grocer's Shop ALCOCK John/Head/M/60/lead miner & grocer/Durham/Barnard Castle ALCOCK Hannah/wife/M/61/Yks/Holwick ALCOCK Barnabas/visitor/U/50/coal miner/Yks/Arkingarthdale In 1871: ALCOCK Hannah/Head/W/71/lead miner's widow/Durham/Holwick HARKER Hannah/g-dau/12/scholar/Yks/Arkengarthdale In 1881: ALCOCK/Hannah/Head/W/81/Retired Grocer's wife/Middleton Durham See image stephen@swaag.org Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

The latest information I have received, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) From: Chris Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 4:41 PM To: nigelrjneil@googlemail.com ; secretary@lancashirehistory.org ; bruce.jackson@lancashire.gov.uk ; mike.coyle@btinternet.com ; jmcrosby@waitrose.com ; agcrosby@waitrose.com ; derrickwalkden@btinternet.com ; bill_shannon@msn.com ; david.dburgess@demon.co.uk ; davidms@uwclub.net ; EHeslewood@preston.gov.uk ; pogsonf@hope.ac.uk ; Holt.haslingden@googlemail.com ; lancaster.jim@zen.co.uk ; greenhalgh46@btinternet.com ; peter.shakeshaft@btinternet.com ; petebamford.lytham@virgin.net ; sam.riches@lancaster.ac.uk ; smbailey@uclan.ac.uk ; tedlight@talktalk.net ; ga.foster@btopenworld.com ; andrew.walmsley@lancashire.gov.uk ; christine.wilkinson@lancaster.as.uk ; zoe.lawson@talktalk.net ; landypublishing@yahoo.ukco.uk ; martin.ramsbottom@btinternet.com ; ocookson@sky.com Subject: The Talbot Library St Walburg's Preston To: Lancashire Archives Friends of Lancashire Archives The Lancashire Local History Federation The Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society The Lancashire Archaeological Society The Lancashire Placename Survey Users of the Talbot Library >From Christine Storey and the many friends of the Talbot Library. The Bishop of Lancaster, the Rt Rev Michael Campbell OSA, has taken the decision to close the Talbot Library; December 13th 2013 was its final day of opening to the public. The Talbot Library was formed by the late Bishop Brewer of Lancaster in 1992. He had recognised the importance of preserving the mass of unique archival material and books, all of the utmost importance to the history of the Catholic Church, currently being stored in rooms, attics and cellars in Presbyteries across the north of England and the Midlands. Bishop Brewer arranged for priests to search their premises for any material which should be stored in a more suitable environment and to have it all transported to the Talbot Library. I was a volunteer in the early days, with Margaret Panikkar, who has worked at the Library as a volunteer for the past 21 years, until the day of its closure. As the material was collected, we spent our time unpacking the dozens of boxes which arrived on a daily basis at the old school building - now renamed the Talbot Library - to be dusted off, catalogued and stored. After 21 years the result of Bishop Brewer's initiative is a collection of Catholic material unparalleled in the north of England, available to anyone who wishes to use it. The decision to close the Library having been made, the question is - what are the plans for the future of the collection? It is hoped that this email will help to raise awareness of the value of the Library and the magnitude of its loss, should it be closed permanently or even broken up and sold. The main question is - what are the plans for its future? Christine Storey

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eworld_2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52572.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If Burns was her married name, a possible marriage from FreeBMD is this: Marriages Mar 1955 BURNS Robert H CHAPMAN Manchester 10e 120 CHAPMAN Jessie E BURNS Manchester 10e 120 and there appear to be 3 children of the marriage. You could try following the children and then use 192dotcom to locate possible addresses. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: martinbriscoe57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52351.3.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What happened to the remains taken to Tonge? Is there a marked place where they were reburied? MB Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davidsmith2001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52572/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking Jessie Burns who was in the greater Manchester area in 1966.Her step father was Thomas Smyth of Coatbridge who died in February at 15 Carlton Street, Old Trafford. I do not know if this was Jessies birth name or Burns was a married name. Her mother was Chrissie and moved down from the Glasgow area in 1947 - dont know her surname. Following Smyth family line. David Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lauraw1993 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/5580.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello jane and michale gorman are my great grandparents young jane was my dads mum Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RODUNFORD58 Surnames: dunford Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52571/mb.ashx Message Board Post: just found anthother daughter of john and martha dunford,found by british genealogy.com we have john dunford born 1812 baptised at st marys church liverpool thomas dunford born 1815 ----------------------------------------------- william dunford born 1818------------------------------------------------- now we have catherine dunford born 12 jan 1821 bap 14 jaqn 1821 at st marys church liverpool james dunford born 1823---------------------------------------------------------------- helen dunford born 1824 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52351.5.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ok still on this found out hes William Scowcroft b 1811 fits with the census and parents I THINK are Thomas Scowcroft and Hannah Seddon (coming up Ann on baptism) - thing is i dont know WHICH Thomas Scowcroft this refers to so need some digging but this is now nothing at all to to do with Betty Seddon - Im pretty sure ive got the correct william 1811 here with these parents all makes sense Andrea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tcroston170 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/51923.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe that Thomas and Hannah's second child was Margaret b1849. She did not move to Durham with her parents. In the 1861 census she was living with her grandmother Jane Mercer at Dove Lane, Hindley ref 2778/20. Margaret Crosson married William Calland at St Peter, Hindley 31/12/1866. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52351.5.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: still working on this - at the moment I dont know WHICH william Scowcroft got married to Mary ann BAXTER - checked the 1841 census and the 1799 william is too old bar 10 year - and Thomas Seddon Scowcroft and Hannah didnt have a child names william - which would fit if they had a william in 1810 when they got married but i cant find one - unless anyone else knows any help much apprecaited Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52566.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Tom re Sarah Jane Berry 1916 death Burial at St Paul's church Astley bridge Bolton 29th April1916 age 49 Her abode !4 Charles Rupert Lupus street Bank Top village Sharples Bolton the village was founded by one of the Ashworth family, who employed workers at the adjacent to Bleachworks on the Eagley Brook. Bank Top was a self contained including a School , church and rented house's, and Allotments, plus sports ground, only thing missing was a Pub, Ashcrofts were then Quakers regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: b1moo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52509.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi if you cut and paste the below it will show the church it is still standing today . Good Luck . https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ascension church lower broughton salford&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SdirUpbNLs2rhQfN_IGwBw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=985 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52351.5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi, I dont think i have Sarah Jane Berry - was she Sarah Jane Scowcrorf ? sorry lost the thread - Martin john Edwin is coming up as father of 1st cousin 3x removed? in my tree - he changes again as he married Ellen scowcroft my gr grand aunt so then he becomes husband of my gr grand aunt so when i remove the relationship he changed back again - John Edwins children are coming up as cousins - Your 1st cousin 3x removed? andrea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52351.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Andrea Re Eddie71 Burial of Sarah Jane Berry age 49 Burial st St Pauls Astley Bridge Bolton 29th April 1916, Abode Charles Rupert St Bank Top Bank Top was a village conceived by Jeremy Ashworth to home his employees at a adjacent Bleachworks in 1860s regards JR Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52351.3.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: martin - this is the LAST burial at the church an some notes on it - so now we know that this wa the last one (only poor soul didnt know she was to be exumed in 1905?) I dont know how they managed to mess up and move them so much but the 1905 was due to the bodies starting to poke out of the grass as it was on a hill .......... Burial: 7 May 1894 St Peter, Bolton, Lancs. Sarah Walsh - Age: 87 years Abode: Holly Vale, Lostock Notes: This is the last interment for which there is authority - and the churchyard is thus finally closed. JA Atkinson Vicar. John Harrison Clerk Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52351.3.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ok just been on the phone to them and spoek to someone else who knew a bit more - 1. first excavation was in 1860 bodies exumed taken to tonge - as new church extension on church being done ect 2. second excavation 1905 as some bodes were peeopling out due to the hill so taken to tonge - 3. more work on chuirch in the 1950s 60s sandblastine and renovations and car park and futher few bodies that were in the way had 9if there were any left)to be moved to tonge possibly - 4. Not sure if they kept the headstones from 1860 and 1905 years no-one knows they MAY be stakced but they would have had to carry them from church to tonge on horse and cart with bodes decaying so maybe they didnt - 5- memorials which remain - smauel crompton and a few other flagstones surrounding the church - 6. they know nothing of a few broken headstones being given to fred dibnah in the 60s but sounds possible andrea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52351.3.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: yes you might be right with the 1855 date - but it coinceded with the opening of Tonge cem and the re-vamp of the church - i can double check back with the archives (just been on the phone to them0 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>