This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ceriallen5 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52588.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ceriallen5 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52588.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes now that you've said it I think it was actually Percy street. Thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

I'm really not sure why you are using GR to look up the electoral roll. It is far from being the best source and tends to throw up a great deal of GIGO (garbage in garbage out) as so much of it is user-submitted. Things like the censuses and electoral rolls are add-ins that they have included over the years but it is certainly not the place to start. No doubt others with more time and knowledge than me will tell you where you need to go but I suspect you will have to pay for the information with either a subscription or credits from sites such as Find My Past and Ancestry. Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marg o'leary Sent: 15 January 2014 06:47 To: Lancsgen Subject: [LAN] electoral roll Hi all advice please on looking up people on the electoral roll (in Genes reunited.) when I ask for a name eg Norman Holmes, it finds a very large number and won't use middle names or initials. However it gives you the full names of the people at the same address eg Mark B Holmes and Murgatroyd John Holmes Is there a secret to the electoral roll and is that the only place to look? regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My 3rd great grandmother - Charlotte SHAW was born Circa 1823 in Manchester & was tried, convicted on her third offence & transported to Australia (Van Demons Land - VDL) aboard 'Tasmania' in September 1844, arriving in December of the same year. >From her various convict records (of which we have learnt a great deal), she indicated that she had a Mother - Elizabeth at native place, Brothers - James / George (abbreviated & hard to determine if it's Jas OR Geo); Henry; John & William and a Sister - Eliza all living in Manchester. No father is listed & Charlotte herself has said that she had been 'on the town for 5 or 6 years'. We have no marriage certificate/s to provide additional family background & have been relying solely on Charlotte's convict records to provide what information we do have about her life. From what we know, she had two children as a convict, one of whom survived to adulthood & to whom I am descended. I, along with some other family researchers, have been unsuccessful so far in locating Charlotte's family in any Census record prior to her transportation in 1844. There is one family whom we have found with an Elizabeth & a child in the 1841 Census who could be one of Charlotte's brothers, but there is nothing certain about this . . . without more information on ages of her siblings, the task is that much more difficult. I'm wondering if anyone might have further ideas on how we might be able to trace Charlotte's family in Manchester, or are we to be resigned to the fact that this might be all we ever know about them? Kind regards, Shirley FYFE (nee ROBERTS) <mailto:shirleyfyfe@gmail.com.au> shirleyfyfe@gmail.com.au [Researching: BLACK, FLETCHER, FYFE, GORDON, HERBERT, JACKSON, LORD, LUNN, McRAE, MARTIN, PEARLESS, ROBERTS, ROBINSON, SHAW, STENNER]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarcHough Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/16666.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I've only just seen this message, many years after you posted it. I am Daniel Johnson's ggg grandson. I'm actively researching the family too, so please get in touch - I'm sure I can help you. Best regards Marc Hough Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi Marg My father was listed as an engineer on his death certificate and my mother spoke of him as an engineer. As far as I knew, he never went to formal schooling for it as one must do today, but he did work on some aspect of building airplanes at Samlesbury Aerodrome, near Blackburn/Preston during WW11. Hope that adds to your inquiry. Renie -----Original Message----- From: marg o'leary Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:35 PM To: Lancsgen Subject: [LAN] Holmes family of Haslingden. 1920s -1940s Hi all The family I am following is that of William James Holmes (b 1888 Kendal,) an engineer and his wife, Winifred Wareing. >From BMD they had the following children: James H 1921 Grace 1922 Florence 1923 Gladys 1925 Margaret 1927 Marion 1930 Peter 1934 David 1936 Frank 1941 I seem to be having trouble finding them later eg death, marriage, and wondering what happened. What would have been the engineering jobs in Haslingden in 1920s to 40s? For an engineer in the 1940s, where should I be looking? I imagine the war would have had an impact on engineering then. regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

in the 1950's if you worked as a machinist in a metal machine shop they would call you an engineer. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- > From: Renie McKee <reniemckee@comcast.net> > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:21:01 PM > > My father was listed as an engineer on his death certificate and my mother > spoke of him as an engineer. As far as I knew, he never went to formal > schooling for it as one must do today, but he did work on some aspect of > building airplanes <snip>

Hello Shirley, I have this family in the 1841 census. They were living in an area full of small courts. allyways etc. that was west of Smithfield market and south of St Michael's church. I could not locate the exact Court/place/street but moving along the census records gave me Miller street and Bagshaw Court. Both of these I located in an 1840 map. Do you have this census record? I have saved it for you. Regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada >>________________________________ >> From: Shirley Fyfe <shirleyfyfe@gmail.com> >>To: LANCSGEN <LancsGen@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:48:16 PM >>Subject: [LAN] SHAW - Manchester, Lanchashire - 1840s >> >> >>My 3rd great grandmother - Charlotte SHAW was born Circa 1823 in Manchester >>& was tried, convicted on her third offence & transported to Australia (Van >>Demons Land - VDL) aboard 'Tasmania' in September 1844, arriving in December >>of the same year. >> >> >> >>>From her various convict records (of which we have learnt a great deal), she >>indicated that she had a Mother - Elizabeth at native place, Brothers - >>James / George (abbreviated & hard to determine if it's Jas OR Geo); Henry; >>John & William and a Sister - Eliza all living in Manchester. No father is >>listed & Charlotte herself has said that she had been 'on the town for 5 or >>6 years'. >> >> >> >>We have no marriage certificate/s to provide additional family background & >>have been relying solely on Charlotte's convict records to provide what >>information we do have about her life. From what we know, she had two >>children as a convict, one of whom survived to adulthood & to whom I am >>descended. >> >> >> >>I, along with some other family researchers, have been unsuccessful so far >>in locating Charlotte's family in any Census record prior to her >>transportation in 1844. There is one family whom we have found with an >>Elizabeth & a child in the 1841 Census who could be one of Charlotte's >>brothers, but there is nothing certain about this . . . without more >>information on ages of her siblings, the task is that much more difficult. >> >> >> >>I'm wondering if anyone might have further ideas on how we might be able to >>trace Charlotte's family in Manchester, or are we to be resigned to the fact >>that this might be all we ever know about them? >> >> >> >>Kind regards, >> >> >> >>Shirley FYFE (nee ROBERTS) >> >><mailto:shirleyfyfe@gmail.com.au> shirleyfyfe@gmail.com.au >> >>[Researching: BLACK, FLETCHER, FYFE, GORDON, HERBERT, JACKSON, LORD, LUNN, >>McRAE, MARTIN, PEARLESS, ROBERTS, ROBINSON, SHAW, STENNER] >> >> >> >> >>:-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >>Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  >> >>The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com >> >>:-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ATYGE Surnames: Geldart Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52598/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ernest was born in Ulverstone in 1869 he married Elizabeth Eleanor Corlett in 1892 in Oldham and they had a son William. I can trace Ernest up until the 1901 census and then he disappears. The family lived in Oldham. On the 1911 census his wife Elizabeth isn't described as a widow but he doesn't appear on any record. I can find his siblings and his father in 1911. I can find no death records, I have searched variations of his name. I have looked for hospital records on the 1911 census but haven't been able to find any for Oldham. I have also searched records for America etc in case he emigrated. Any suggestions welcome! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Find my past has poor / work house records, you can always search for them there. On 2014-01-14, at 3:48 PM, Shirley Fyfe wrote: > My 3rd great grandmother - Charlotte SHAW was born Circa 1823 in Manchester > & was tried, convicted on her third offence & transported to Australia (Van > Demons Land - VDL) aboard 'Tasmania' in September 1844, arriving in December > of the same year. > > > >> From her various convict records (of which we have learnt a great deal), she > indicated that she had a Mother - Elizabeth at native place, Brothers - > James / George (abbreviated & hard to determine if it's Jas OR Geo); Henry; > John & William and a Sister - Eliza all living in Manchester. No father is > listed & Charlotte herself has said that she had been 'on the town for 5 or > 6 years'. > > > > We have no marriage certificate/s to provide additional family background & > have been relying solely on Charlotte's convict records to provide what > information we do have about her life. From what we know, she had two > children as a convict, one of whom survived to adulthood & to whom I am > descended. > > > > I, along with some other family researchers, have been unsuccessful so far > in locating Charlotte's family in any Census record prior to her > transportation in 1844. There is one family whom we have found with an > Elizabeth & a child in the 1841 Census who could be one of Charlotte's > brothers, but there is nothing certain about this . . . without more > information on ages of her siblings, the task is that much more difficult. > > > > I'm wondering if anyone might have further ideas on how we might be able to > trace Charlotte's family in Manchester, or are we to be resigned to the fact > that this might be all we ever know about them? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Shirley FYFE (nee ROBERTS) > > <mailto:shirleyfyfe@gmail.com.au> shirleyfyfe@gmail.com.au > > [Researching: BLACK, FLETCHER, FYFE, GORDON, HERBERT, JACKSON, LORD, LUNN, > McRAE, MARTIN, PEARLESS, ROBERTS, ROBINSON, SHAW, STENNER] > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52596.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bradley Three following websites that might help 1. towneleyhall@burnley.gov.uk 2. weaverstiangle@yahoo.co.uk 3 queenstreetmill@lancashire.gov.uk it might save a trip to Burnley Regards james Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bradley_Kelly85 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52596.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you both for your suggestions... definitely going to try some out. I am overdue a visit back home :) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: junewilson2750 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/50190.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bigbird, Margery Thornton b 27.12.1811 at Poulton le Fylde married Richard Crane (chr 11.6.1815 at Garstang) on 2.4.1836. Margery's parents were Edmund Thornton (b 27.3.1791 at Bispham) and Elizabeth Bryning (b 28.2.1782 at Poulton le Fylde). Richard Crane's parents were Richard Crane (b about 1771 at Garstang) and Mary Pye (b about 1774 at Thornton). Richard and Margery had children: Elizabeth chr 8.1.1837 at Poulton le Fylde Mary b about 1839 at Poulton le Fylde Jane b about 1842 at Preston Alice b about 1843 at Preston John Bryning b about 1848 at Preston I only know of 2 William Cranes - one born in 1806 at Church Town, Kirkland, Garstang and the other William Helm Crane chr 1874 at Christ Church, Preston. Hope this is of some help. Regards, June Wilson (Sydney) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marymason165 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52596.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a website but not seen anything regarding the actual workers, you could e-mail to ask them weaverstriangle.yahoo.co.uk other than that the records of the mills are probably kept at the archives in Burnley or Preston, if any exist of course. I have surfed the net and not found anything in Burnley or Preston or even in Manchester, maybe others have a better knowledge of how to search deeper than I have. Only found one thing that looks good from Queen Street Mill near Burnley queenstmill@lancashire.gov.uk they have 7,000 books, journals & other items for consultation (with prior arrangements) for the public to view. Might be worth a visit if only for the historical side of it. My family go back to the mid 1600's in Burnley and all of them in the mills, let me know what you find. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bigbird3663 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/50190.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: June I am a direct descendent of William Crane 1828-1902, born Poulton le Fylde. Would be interested to know the connection between Thortons and Cranes. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jessiebeamer Surnames: Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52587.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Olivia Street, Bootle. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Further to my last e-mail, I have been surfing the net and not found anything in Burnley or Preston or even in Manchester, maybe others have a better knowledge of how to search deeper than I have. Only found one thing that looks good from Queen Street Mill near Burnley queenstmill@lancashire.gov.uk they have 7,000 books, journals & other items for consultation (with prior arrangements) for the public to view. Might be worth a visit if only for the historical side of it. My family go back to the mid 1600's in Burnley and all of them in the mills, let me know what you find. Mary ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: mason mary <mm001o7880@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: 13 January 2014 15:55 Subject: Fwd: [LAN] Burnley Lancashire Mills in 19th / early 20th Century - the workers? To: lancsgen <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> There is a website but not seen anything regarding the actual workers, you could e-mail to ask them weaverstriangle.yahoo.co.uk other than that the records of the mills are probably kept at the archives in Burnley or Preston, if any exist of course. Mary ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Date: 13 January 2014 11:13 Subject: Re: [LAN] Burnley Lancashire Mills in 19th / early 20th Century - the workers? To: LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52596.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bradley The following might be helpful Burnley was Mills for Weaving not cotton spinning there are 3 Museums, In Burnley !. Towneley Hall Museum 2. Queens Street Textile Mill Museum 3. The Weaver's Triangle Visitor centres it would be possible that these museums would have list of workers in the 1800s you can contact them by telephone, I didn't see any e'mail address's Regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sygraham Surnames: McCadden,McAdam Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52597/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for a birth for Ellen Elizabeth McCadden or Eleanor McCadden. Shown on the 1901 census as Eleanor age 19 but cannot trace her on the 1891. Also death of Ann Jane McCadden between 1891 and 1901 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

There is a website but not seen anything regarding the actual workers, you could e-mail to ask them weaverstriangle.yahoo.co.uk other than that the records of the mills are probably kept at the archives in Burnley or Preston, if any exist of course. Mary ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Date: 13 January 2014 11:13 Subject: Re: [LAN] Burnley Lancashire Mills in 19th / early 20th Century - the workers? To: LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52596.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bradley The following might be helpful Burnley was Mills for Weaving not cotton spinning there are 3 Museums, In Burnley !. Towneley Hall Museum 2. Queens Street Textile Mill Museum 3. The Weaver's Triangle Visitor centres it would be possible that these museums would have list of workers in the 1800s you can contact them by telephone, I didn't see any e'mail address's Regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary If you want the original poster to receive your message, you'll need to post on the message board at <http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52596.1/mb.ashx> Kind regards, Lynne mason mary <mm001o7880@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >Further to my last e-mail, I have been surfing the net and not found >anything in Burnley or Preston or even in Manchester, maybe others have a >better knowledge of how to search deeper than I have. Only found one thing >that looks good from Queen Street Mill near Burnley >queenstmill@lancashire.gov.uk they have 7,000 books, journals & other items >for consultation (with prior arrangements) for the public to view. Might be >worth a visit if only for the historical side of it. My family go back to >the mid 1600's in Burnley and all of them in the mills, let me know what >you find. >Mary > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: mason mary <mm001o7880@blueyonder.co.uk> >Date: 13 January 2014 15:55 >Subject: Fwd: [LAN] Burnley Lancashire Mills in 19th / early 20th Century - >the workers? >To: lancsgen <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> > > >There is a website but not seen anything regarding the actual workers, you >could e-mail to ask them weaverstriangle.yahoo.co.uk other than that the >records of the mills are probably kept at the archives in Burnley or >Preston, if any exist of course. >Mary > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >Date: 13 January 2014 11:13 >Subject: Re: [LAN] Burnley Lancashire Mills in 19th / early 20th Century - >the workers? >To: LANCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Author: whitesfan1930 >Surnames: >Classification: queries > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52596.1/mb.ashx > >Message Board Post: > >Hi Bradley > >The following might be helpful > >Burnley was Mills for Weaving not cotton spinning > >there are 3 Museums, In Burnley > >!. Towneley Hall Museum > >2. Queens Street Textile Mill Museum > >3. The Weaver's Triangle Visitor centres > >it would be possible that these museums would have list of workers in the >1800s > >you can contact them by telephone, I didn't see any e'mail address's > >Regards James > >Important Note: >The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would >like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and >respond on the board. >